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Should we include X-Men and other non MCU topics in this thread?

Yes, all Marvel films should be discussed here
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No, keep this discussion MCU exclusive
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:55 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:I was more saying that in the sense that DP isn't exactly what one usually calls a superhero (though the argument is better for DP2) :lol:

Precisely my point as well. Simply putting on spandex is no longer enough to constitute "superhero." :lol:

I can think of a number of supervillians who run around in spandex (probably)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:38 am

Everything for the cat.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:43 am


They even got the counter. Props.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:36 am


That's amazing.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:38 am

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That's amazing.

You ever get the feeling that all this consumerist media is just trying to distract us from the impending threat of Y2K?

I for one have my shelter prepared.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:08 am

The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.

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You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:09 am

Olthar wrote:

That's amazing.

Ah, the halcyon days before Youtube and Facebook and Twitter, where we all just screamed into our little custom-made voids in between playthroughs of Sonic 2 on the Sega Genesis (because Nintendo's stuff was expensive yo).
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:11 am

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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:34 am

Liriena wrote:The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.



You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.

>20 Marvel movies with male leads
>1 Marvel movie with a female lead
>OMG ITS SJW GONE MAD HER VAGINA IS GOING TO RUIN THE FRANCHISE!!!!1!!1
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Postby Liriena » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:02 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.



You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.

>20 Marvel movies with male leads
>1 Marvel movie with a female lead
>OMG ITS SJW GONE MAD HER VAGINA IS GOING TO RUIN THE FRANCHISE!!!!1!!1

At this rate Youtubers are going to carry out a mass suicide when the first LGBT+ Marvel lead comes along.
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Postby Tekania » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:44 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.



You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.

>20 Marvel movies with male leads
>1 Marvel movie with a female lead
>OMG ITS SJW GONE MAD HER VAGINA IS GOING TO RUIN THE FRANCHISE!!!!1!!1


What I've learned from youtube recently is that I don't have a right to claim I think I will like the movie I have not seen yet..... but tons of other people can claim the movie will suck and their opinion matters who haven't seen it yet either.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:45 pm

Tekania wrote:
Olthar wrote:>20 Marvel movies with male leads
>1 Marvel movie with a female lead
>OMG ITS SJW GONE MAD HER VAGINA IS GOING TO RUIN THE FRANCHISE!!!!1!!1


What I've learned from youtube recently is that I don't have a right to claim I think I will like the movie I have not seen yet..... but tons of other people can claim the movie will suck and their opinion matters who haven't seen it yet either.

Specially the opinion of That Star Wars Girl, who seems to have a blood feud with Brie Larson.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 pm

I don't bother watching YouTube on much of anything except the actual trailers, I'm a DC/Marvel, and Honest Trailers. It's a good way to live.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:50 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:I don't bother watching YouTube on much of anything except the actual trailers, I'm a DC/Marvel, and Honest Trailers. It's a good way to live.

I'm addicted to film critique, so that makes up a huge chunk of my Youtube experience.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:I don't bother watching YouTube on much of anything except the actual trailers, I'm a DC/Marvel, and Honest Trailers. It's a good way to live.

I'm addicted to film critique, so that makes up a huge chunk of my Youtube experience.

I'm addicted to TVTropes, that's where I get my film critique
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Postby Tekania » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:59 pm

Liriena wrote:
Tekania wrote:
What I've learned from youtube recently is that I don't have a right to claim I think I will like the movie I have not seen yet..... but tons of other people can claim the movie will suck and their opinion matters who haven't seen it yet either.

Specially the opinion of That Star Wars Girl, who seems to have a blood feud with Brie Larson.


Yeah, a lot of them do, and with Disney in general as well.... even though the Marvel Studios portion of Disney has been delivering good product for some times and not letting up. And this appears no different to me. I'm as stoked to go see this as I have been for other Marvel movies in the last decade.

Star Wars Girl seems to be projecting hate around Disney.... with how poorly they have been handling Star Wars I can see how she would be irked (but that is a different topic).... but their poor handling of Star Wars has no translation to how they have been handling Marvel. And frankly I think her hate is misplaced. Feige has been doing an awesome job of managing the Marvel Studios branding and direction.

Alot of this seems to from some people's poor understanding of the corporate structure. They hate the direction that Kathleen Kennedy has gone and attribute that to Disney in general and all its properties.... the proble of course is that while Feige and Kennedy both answer to Disney, neither answers to th other, each is in charge of their own subsidiary. Kennedy's direction has no impact of Marvel Studios, only on Lucas Film... so projecting Kennedy's direction of Feige is absolutely uncalled for or unsupportable.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:18 pm

Liriena wrote:The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.



You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.

That first one is right about Genie though.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:20 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Liriena wrote:The anti-Captain Marvel side of Youtube is absolutely breathtaking.



You can add "owning the nerds" to the list of reasons why I want to watch it.

That first one is right about Genie though.

He should have either been a full humanoid genie and just have will smith do the physical acting as well as voice work. Or just do the genie as full CGI and had him voice it, but without his likeness.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
Olthar wrote:>20 Marvel movies with male leads
>1 Marvel movie with a female lead
>OMG ITS SJW GONE MAD HER VAGINA IS GOING TO RUIN THE FRANCHISE!!!!1!!1

At this rate Youtubers are going to carry out a mass suicide when the first LGBT+ Marvel lead comes along.


LGBT people in superhero comics is not brand new, it’s been around for many years.

DC has Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Harley Quinn for example...no men that I can remember of, though.

As for Marvel, my knowledge on their superhero roster is very much limited, so Iunno.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Liriena wrote:At this rate Youtubers are going to carry out a mass suicide when the first LGBT+ Marvel lead comes along.


LGBT people in superhero comics is not brand new, it’s been around for many years.

DC has Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Harley Quinn for example...no men that I can remember of, though.

As for Marvel, my knowledge on their superhero roster is very much limited, so Iunno.

...Catwoman? When did that one happen? I thought her mission in life was to bone Batman.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:33 pm

Here's the Wikipedia list anyways
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... uperheroes

Some Marvel ones listed are Deadpool, Hercules, and Valkyrie.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:37 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Here's the Wikipedia list anyways
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... uperheroes

Some Marvel ones listed are Deadpool, Hercules, and Valkyrie.

...Trini Kwan? The Yellow Ranger? I must have missed that episode...
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:55 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Here's the Wikipedia list anyways
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... uperheroes

Some Marvel ones listed are Deadpool, Hercules, and Valkyrie.

...Trini Kwan? The Yellow Ranger? I must have missed that episode...

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:32 pm

I do love seeing Bad Film Critique YouTube unironically using the term SJW. It just reinforces the notion that they don't know jack shit about what they're talking about.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:50 pm

The Captain Marvel hate feels like misogynists winding up to give this big haymaker when the film comes out. It seems like a weird thing to do, to pretty much admit that you've already decided to hate a movie, because then no one is going to believe that you're being dispassionate when you do review it negatively.

But it maybe makes a certain sort of sense (well, not sense, but y'know, "sense"), if you're worried the film might be good. Because if you've already firmly established that it's bad, you can frame all positive reception as a product of insincere SJW Disney shills or whatever. And you can kind of...claim to have predicted it, because you were saying it was bad all along, which obviously makes you more honest.

Still, I think they'd do better to keep quiet, because the trailers make it look like a run-of-the-mill MCU film*. Which would put it below the recent run of MCU films, which have been consistently above average. If they only waited, they could fairly dismiss it as a drop in quality without having to show their true colours.

*Although I thought the same about BP's trailers, so who knows.
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