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Postby West Bromwich Holme » Wed May 25, 2022 11:12 am

Could the DCEU import these characters into the movies:

Ava Sharpe, Andrea Rojas/Acrata, Reverse Flash, XS/Nora West-Allen

Or would it be too damaging to the DCEU importing characters from the Arrowverse, even if roles are recast?
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed May 25, 2022 12:49 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Could the DCEU import these characters into the movies:

Ava Sharpe, Andrea Rojas/Acrata, Reverse Flash, XS/Nora West-Allen

Or would it be too damaging to the DCEU importing characters from the Arrowverse, even if roles are recast?

I mean I would be down to keep Flash and Supergirl
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Postby Hamidiye » Wed May 25, 2022 3:18 pm

So... I was re-reading an old magazine and just saw this:

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conclusion: Batman is an idiot.

Also we need more Punisher-movies.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed May 25, 2022 5:08 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Could the DCEU import these characters into the movies:

Ava Sharpe, Andrea Rojas/Acrata, Reverse Flash, XS/Nora West-Allen

Or would it be too damaging to the DCEU importing characters from the Arrowverse, even if roles are recast?

Everyone buy Ava is from the comics. Flashpoint revolves around the Flash going to the past to prevent Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom (both terrible names) from killing his mom, and should the Flash movie actually be released it is supposed to be a Flashpoint movie, so in theory Reverse Flash would be in it. Though they're not beholden to doing it like the comics. I still think someone is running the numbers on how much it would cost to replace Ezra Miller on top of all the 'pressure' they're getting to replace Amber Heard.
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Postby Forsher » Wed May 25, 2022 5:19 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
West Bromwich Holme wrote:Could the DCEU import these characters into the movies:

Ava Sharpe, Andrea Rojas/Acrata, Reverse Flash, XS/Nora West-Allen

Or would it be too damaging to the DCEU importing characters from the Arrowverse, even if roles are recast?

Everyone buy Ava is from the comics. Flashpoint revolves around the Flash going to the past to prevent Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom (both terrible names) from killing his mom, and should the Flash movie actually be released it is supposed to be a Flashpoint movie, so in theory Reverse Flash would be in it. Though they're not beholden to doing it like the comics. I still think someone is running the numbers on how much it would cost to replace Ezra Miller on top of all the 'pressure' they're getting to replace Amber Heard.


I suspect it's not a difficult calculation in the sense that they probably only need to worry about their costs, not what a casting change would do to revenues... Ezra Miller is hardly a name and didn't endear viewers to their interpretation of the Flash, either. Realistically, they probably only need to worry about Snyder die hards boycotting, under the assumption that getting rid of Miller is a slight against Snyder. That would be easily fixed by promising to reference the Snydercut in text and releasing footage proving that as soon as possible.

That is, unless there was no termination clause to the contract, which beggars belief. In that case, their cost changes would be unclear. I suppose it might be ambiguous but movie studios are surely sufficiently aware of the need to jettison actors for their person life that you'd assume it's a default practice to insert "fuck off we'll hire someone else bribes" into contracts.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed May 25, 2022 8:13 pm

Replace Miller with Grant Gustin. Cast TV Supergirl as Henry Cavils Supergirl. Idk who to Replace Herd with but it shouldn't be to hard.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu May 26, 2022 5:32 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:Replace Miller with Grant Gustin. Cast TV Supergirl as Henry Cavils Supergirl. Idk who to Replace Herd with but it shouldn't be to hard.

well at first people wanted Emilia Clarke to replace Amber Heard after a while that went nowhere then out of the blue now people want Blake Lively to replace Amber Heard as Mera and I can get behind that. The one thing they should do though is to maybe add a couple of lines to maybe Black Manta where he tells Aquaman he didn't break a sweat then unveils Meras crown or necklace symbolizing the death of Mera. Then in a possible third Aquaman film Arthur could fall in love with Maxima played by Blake Lively.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri May 27, 2022 12:21 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Replace Miller with Grant Gustin. Cast TV Supergirl as Henry Cavils Supergirl. Idk who to Replace Herd with but it shouldn't be to hard.

well at first people wanted Emilia Clarke to replace Amber Heard after a while that went nowhere then out of the blue now people want Blake Lively to replace Amber Heard as Mera and I can get behind that. The one thing they should do though is to maybe add a couple of lines to maybe Black Manta where he tells Aquaman he didn't break a sweat then unveils Meras crown or necklace symbolizing the death of Mera. Then in a possible third Aquaman film Arthur could fall in love with Maxima played by Blake Lively.

It would be funnier if they brought amber turd in for a death scene.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 5:52 am

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Postby Forsher » Sun May 29, 2022 5:59 am



Honestly, the two tweet images broadly look like the difference between, I dunno, 360 and 480p... you can see more subtleties, the image is crisper and less smoothed.

Given the nature of the comparison, that may just be what's happened.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Sun May 29, 2022 11:39 am

Forsher wrote:


Honestly, the two tweet images broadly look like the difference between, I dunno, 360 and 480p... you can see more subtleties, the image is crisper and less smoothed.

Given the nature of the comparison, that may just be what's happened.

It looks like they changed the shade of green
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun May 29, 2022 12:07 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Honestly, the two tweet images broadly look like the difference between, I dunno, 360 and 480p... you can see more subtleties, the image is crisper and less smoothed.

Given the nature of the comparison, that may just be what's happened.

It looks like they changed the shade of green

from a YouTube channel I subscribed to he stated that they added something like pores and changed some lighting but I don't really see a difference. Plus the title She-Hulk Attorney at law is kid of cheesy why can't it just be She-Hulk? none of the other MCU properties since Iron Man in 2007 had a secondary title like She-Hulk
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun May 29, 2022 12:42 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:It looks like they changed the shade of green

from a YouTube channel I subscribed to he stated that they added something like pores and changed some lighting but I don't really see a difference. Plus the title She-Hulk Attorney at law is kid of cheesy why can't it just be She-Hulk? none of the other MCU properties since Iron Man in 2007 had a secondary title like She-Hulk

…a lot of the movies have secondary title

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 3:26 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:It looks like they changed the shade of green

from a YouTube channel I subscribed to he stated that they added something like pores and changed some lighting but I don't really see a difference. Plus the title She-Hulk Attorney at law is kid of cheesy why can't it just be She-Hulk? none of the other MCU properties since Iron Man in 2007 had a secondary title like She-Hulk

It keeps making me think of Harvey Birdman

Why do we say "Attorney at Law"? Is there another kind of attorney? To distinguish from rules lawyers?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun May 29, 2022 3:30 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:from a YouTube channel I subscribed to he stated that they added something like pores and changed some lighting but I don't really see a difference. Plus the title She-Hulk Attorney at law is kid of cheesy why can't it just be She-Hulk? none of the other MCU properties since Iron Man in 2007 had a secondary title like She-Hulk

It keeps making me think of Harvey Birdman

Why do we say "Attorney at Law"? Is there another kind of attorney? To distinguish from rules lawyers?

Well, a cursory googling says "a practitioner in a court of law who is legally qualified to prosecute and defend actions in such court on the retainer of clients."
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 4:11 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It keeps making me think of Harvey Birdman

Why do we say "Attorney at Law"? Is there another kind of attorney? To distinguish from rules lawyers?

Well, a cursory googling says "a practitioner in a court of law who is legally qualified to prosecute and defend actions in such court on the retainer of clients."

As apposed to an attorney who makes really killer turkey clubs? Attorney at Deli?
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Postby Forsher » Sun May 29, 2022 5:25 pm

Not all lawyers are barristers. If you don't have barristers as such, you're still going to need to distinguish between those that speak in courtrooms from all the others.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun May 29, 2022 5:52 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:from a YouTube channel I subscribed to he stated that they added something like pores and changed some lighting but I don't really see a difference. Plus the title She-Hulk Attorney at law is kid of cheesy why can't it just be She-Hulk? none of the other MCU properties since Iron Man in 2007 had a secondary title like She-Hulk

It keeps making me think of Harvey Birdman

Why do we say "Attorney at Law"? Is there another kind of attorney? To distinguish from rules lawyers?

It sounds cooler/better than just “attorney” for one

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 8:39 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It keeps making me think of Harvey Birdman

Why do we say "Attorney at Law"? Is there another kind of attorney? To distinguish from rules lawyers?

It sounds cooler/better than just “attorney” for one

They have a term for when they want to sound cool, esquire.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun May 29, 2022 9:10 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:It sounds cooler/better than just “attorney” for one

They have a term for when they want to sound cool, esquire.

I don’t think the aversion person knows what that one means

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 10:45 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:They have a term for when they want to sound cool, esquire.

I don’t think the aversion person knows what that one means

I've had multiple lawyer friends explain it to me and have looked it up more than once. My brain apparently doesn't want to know what the fuck the deal with esquire is. I mean, someone can tell me again but at this point I guarantee I won't remember.

EDIT: Shit, how do I have multiple lawyer friends? Only one of them was a lawyer when I met them...fuck, it's practically all lawyers and teachers outside 'the industry'...I never thought of this before.
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Postby Forsher » Mon May 30, 2022 12:44 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:It sounds cooler/better than just “attorney” for one

They have a term for when they want to sound cool, esquire.


This one has the disadvantage of being a bizarre American affectation. To be avoided if you're trying to sell to a wider audience.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Mon May 30, 2022 9:04 am

I mean it's unlikely but I would be down to a Harvey Birdman Cameo.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 30, 2022 10:18 pm

Jessica Jones will be in something. (this time for sure re:the link)
(I haven't actually read the article yet, I jumped ahead to my never gonna happen fantasy sequence.)

With the Defenders coming back and settling the annoying 'canon' issue, the sequence I wished was in Endgame.

The Defenders come through a portal, Jessica does her thing (cracks a beer or joke or both about how this is messed up) then actually up up and aways and Iron Fist asks if they knew she could fly. At some point Daredevil pulls an outlander or whatever they're called (forgot...) and Coleen and Misty punch it roboarm/ki style. Power Man cracks some skulls. At the end when Iron Man snaps Punisher has already switched to using his empty gun as a club and is screaming and punching Outlanders who have to gang up on him to get him down before they turn to dust.

It really would have added nothing and probably seem out of place in Endgame (even though every time Wong says "What, you wanted more?" I always go "YES!") and they made a sound decision to leave them out, but as a flashback to a part of the battle we didn't see...


...probably just as extraneous and definitely not going to happen. Just a thing that will exist in my head canon.

EDIT: Removed garbage link, I'll try and find one that works.

Edit the second: This should work.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Tue May 31, 2022 8:29 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:Jessica Jones will be in something. (this time for sure re:the link)
(I haven't actually read the article yet, I jumped ahead to my never gonna happen fantasy sequence.)

With the Defenders coming back and settling the annoying 'canon' issue, the sequence I wished was in Endgame.

The Defenders come through a portal, Jessica does her thing (cracks a beer or joke or both about how this is messed up) then actually up up and aways and Iron Fist asks if they knew she could fly. At some point Daredevil pulls an outlander or whatever they're called (forgot...) and Coleen and Misty punch it roboarm/ki style. Power Man cracks some skulls. At the end when Iron Man snaps Punisher has already switched to using his empty gun as a club and is screaming and punching Outlanders who have to gang up on him to get him down before they turn to dust.

It really would have added nothing and probably seem out of place in Endgame (even though every time Wong says "What, you wanted more?" I always go "YES!") and they made a sound decision to leave them out, but as a flashback to a part of the battle we didn't see...


...probably just as extraneous and definitely not going to happen. Just a thing that will exist in my head canon.

EDIT: Removed garbage link, I'll try and find one that works.

Edit the second: This should work.

I mean theoretically this could also work for F4 and X-men
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