MCU/Superhero Discussion Thread

[Gig em Aggies]

Just got back from seeing Multiverse of Madness and im sorry to say i was kind of disappointed, movie didnt really do a lot for me, it was okay but nothing special and i think the first one was better if im honest.

Shame really, this was the marvel movie i was looking forward to the most the last year and a bit.

I agree. I really was unimpressed with this go around for a lot of reasons. It felt a lot less mind-melty as the original, often disjointed and all over the place, and frankly I feel Raimi and Elfman harmed the finished product more than they helped it. There were some good parts that were distinctly Raimi, but ultimately it hurt the overall tone of the film as I personally feel his schlock horror style wears thin pretty fast. And ultimately, I felt it focused more on that then the "wtf-edness" that the film had potential for.

I also just don't like Elfman as for music. He is pretty one-note, and everything just comes off as generic backgroundusic because of it.

Frankly, it had so much potential, and it felt squandered by Raimi leaning so heavily into his personal style, and uninspired scores by Elfman. Rather than giving it a life of its own, it felt like Raimi doing Raimi things and Elfman phoning it in.

I wish they made the Illuminati put up more of a fight against Wanda. But I felt they could have gone NWH and had Sinister Strange and Defender Strange put differences aside to fight against Scarlett Witch with Wong and Rintrah as the Ned and MJ of Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness or have some more exploration of Earth 838 for a few scenes then have Wanda come in fight them.

[Seangoli]

I agree. I really was unimpressed with this go around for a lot of reasons. It felt a lot less mind-melty as the original, often disjointed and all over the place, and frankly I feel Raimi and Elfman harmed the finished product more than they helped it. There were some good parts that were distinctly Raimi, but ultimately it hurt the overall tone of the film as I personally feel his schlock horror style wears thin pretty fast. And ultimately, I felt it focused more on that then the "wtf-edness" that the film had potential for.

I also just don't like Elfman as for music. He is pretty one-note, and everything just comes off as generic backgroundusic because of it.

Frankly, it had so much potential, and it felt squandered by Raimi leaning so heavily into his personal style, and uninspired scores by Elfman. Rather than giving it a life of its own, it felt like Raimi doing Raimi things and Elfman phoning it in.

I wish they made the Illuminati put up more of a fight against Wanda. But I felt they could have gone NWH and had Sinister Strange and Defender Strange put differences aside to fight against Scarlett Witch with Wong and Rintrah as the Ned and MJ of Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness or have some more exploration of Earth 838 for a few scenes then have Wanda come in fight them.

I really dislike what they did with the Illuminati. Half of them felt like they were out in as a joke to see them die quickly, such as Richards or Black Bolt, and the others were largely killed unceremoniously.

Their entire existence in the film just felt like a rug pull for the sake of a rug pull.

I also found the notion that Dr. strange was a threat to the multiverse largely flat, in no small part because the threat to the multiverse in the movie had nothing to do with him or his decisions in mucking about with the arcane or the multiverse at all.

The more I think about the film, the more disjointed it all felt, and the more it feels like a bunch of good ideas with no codifying theme. It needed a really good razor blade, and a deft hand at editing.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I agree. I really was unimpressed with this go around for a lot of reasons. It felt a lot less mind-melty as the original, often disjointed and all over the place, and frankly I feel Raimi and Elfman harmed the finished product more than they helped it. There were some good parts that were distinctly Raimi, but ultimately it hurt the overall tone of the film as I personally feel his schlock horror style wears thin pretty fast. And ultimately, I felt it focused more on that then the "wtf-edness" that the film had potential for.

I also just don't like Elfman as for music. He is pretty one-note, and everything just comes off as generic backgroundusic because of it.

Frankly, it had so much potential, and it felt squandered by Raimi leaning so heavily into his personal style, and uninspired scores by Elfman. Rather than giving it a life of its own, it felt like Raimi doing Raimi things and Elfman phoning it in.

I wish they made the Illuminati put up more of a fight against Wanda. But I felt they could have gone NWH and had Sinister Strange and Defender Strange put differences aside to fight against Scarlett Witch with Wong and Rintrah as the Ned and MJ of Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness or have some more exploration of Earth 838 for a few scenes then have Wanda come in fight them.

I agree, i really would have liked to have seen this happen instead.

[Christian Confederation]

IDK if this is the Thread but Elisabeth Olsen is in the MCU so I guess it fits. I was just watching an interview and they asked her about social media posts about herself. Long story short she's down with fans calling her mom and I just spent 5 minutes laughing at the comments which were to be expected.

[Gig em Aggies]

IDK if this is the Thread but Elisabeth Olsen is in the MCU so I guess it fits. I was just watching an interview and they asked her about social media posts about herself. Long story short she's down with fans calling her mom and I just spent 5 minutes laughing at the comments which were to be expected.

Scarlett Witch in the Dr. Strange MOM is 1.) when you lie to your mom and gives you the mother of all whoopins 2.) when you forget your wife's or girlfriend's birthday or wedding anniversary.

[Lord Dominator]

I don't think we'll see the 'returns' ever again. But Krasinski probably. Also, short version of the note that Strange recognized Richards as someone from the 60s.

The Fantastic Four (band)

[Cannot think of a name]

I don't think we'll see the 'returns' ever again. But Krasinski probably. Also, short version of the note that Strange recognized Richards as someone from the 60s.

The Fantastic Four (band)

Yeah, I saw the scene with subtitles and realized that wasn't at all what they were doing.

[Eahland]

I just noticed the Deadpool movies have come up in "Expiring" on Hulu. Suppose that means they're going over to Disney+ too?

[Christian Confederation]

IDK if this is the Thread but Elisabeth Olsen is in the MCU so I guess it fits. I was just watching an interview and they asked her about social media posts about herself. Long story short she's down with fans calling her mom and I just spent 5 minutes laughing at the comments which were to be expected.

Scarlett Witch in the Dr. Strange MOM is 1.) when you lie to your mom and gives you the mother of all whoopins 2.) when you forget your wife's or girlfriend's birthday or wedding anniversary.

Indeed

[Lord Dominator]

In any case, I do believe I liked MoM.

Wasn’t the most thrilled about the full villain route, but they did a good job with it, so that’s nice.

Interesting film connection that Strange once again has to resort to some method other than fighting to actually beat the villain in his movies - and the victory over Thanos wasn’t really a physical win either, at that.

[Christian Confederation]

Doesn't the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special drop this year?

[Free Algerstonia]

Doesn't the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special drop this year?

Yes. So hyped for that and volume 3. I hope that Peter Quill meets his relatives on Earth.

[Gig em Aggies]

In any case, I do believe I liked MoM.

Wasn’t the most thrilled about the full villain route, but they did a good job with it, so that’s nice.

Interesting film connection that Strange once again has to resort to some method other than fighting to actually beat the villain in his movies - and the victory over Thanos wasn’t really a physical win either, at that.

I don't know how it came, my mind works in ways I can't comprehend but this would have been the perfect song for Multiverse of Madness it has a sense of mystery, and dread when played with a horror film or scene. https://youtu.be/fJ9rUzIMcZQ

[Christian Confederation]

Doesn't the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special drop this year?

Yes. So hyped for that and volume 3. I hope that Peter Quill meets his relatives on Earth.

I never thought of that possibility.

[Cannot think of a name]

I double dipped because I have a theater subscription. I liked it better the second time around, actually. Without all that "How is this going to change the MCU/who is gonna pop up" kind of anticipation I could just watch the movie.

I noticed it the first time around (obviously, it wasn't hidden) but this time around I really liked that moment when Scarlet Witch finally gets control of Wanda 838 and briefly looks directly at the camera. It's such a Sam Raimi horror move.

The only thing I found that I didn't really like as much was when Doctor Strange realized what needed to be done, his pep talk to America was a little misleading and didn't really give her a hint at what she needed to do. If Chavez hadn't figured it out and just decided to duke it out with the Scarlet Witch hoping her strength was enough that would have ended in a bummer.

And I guess that Doctor Strange is learning the same lesson he had to learn in the first Doctor Strange movie.

[Lord Dominator]

And I guess that Doctor Strange is learning the same lesson he had to learn in the first Doctor Strange movie.

In fairness, the whole 1/16 million thing from IW/Endgame working out was probably a heck of an ego trip to help forget that.

[Forsher]

Spoiler tag in the quote is broken.

[Cannot think of a name]

And I guess that Doctor Strange is learning the same lesson he had to learn in the first Doctor Strange movie.[/spoiler]

In fairness, the whole 1/16 million thing from IW/Endgame working out was probably a heck of an ego trip to help forget that.

True enough.

[Lord Dominator]

Spoiler tag in the quote is broken.

Oop, thanks

[Christian Confederation]

I ever told you guys I'm writing a book?

[Cannot think of a name]

I ever told you guys I'm writing a book?

Is it about superheroes?

[Ameriganastan]

I liked it.

[Nova Catania]

I ever told you guys I'm writing a book?

That's cool. What about?

[The Church of Satan]

Now that I think about it, in my opinion, the best of both Marvel and DC's live-action shows/movies were non-traditional. As much as I loved Marvel's (former) Netflix shows, their best one so far is Legion. I mean, the writing was fantastic and the visuals were better than even the Avengers movies. DC's best live-action movie/show is still Doom Patrol.

I think Marvel might be focusing less on their core characters now in their movies and TV shows too. I mean, now we have Modok, Hitmonkey, and Moon Knight which are going over very well. What's next? I feel like it could be just about anything.

[Ameriganastan]

Now that I think about it, in my opinion, the best of both Marvel and DC's live-action shows/movies were non-traditional. As much as I loved Marvel's (former) Netflix shows, their best one so far is Legion. I mean, the writing was fantastic and the visuals were better than even the Avengers movies. DC's best live-action movie/show is still Doom Patrol.

I think Marvel might be focusing less on their core characters now in their movies and TV shows too. I mean, now we have Modok, Hitmonkey, and Moon Knight which are going over very well. What's next? I feel like it could be just about anything.

Yeah, they actually cancelled Modok.