MCU/Superhero Discussion Thread

[Christian Confederation]

Really, it's all eyes on Ms Marvel. She's supposed to be an Inhuman. If they skip out on that, then it's MCU's fuck you to Inhumans. If they rewrite Inhumans, well, there's our answer as well. If they imply that Inhumans exist and have, then AoS is back on the table so to speak. I honestly don't know which direction they'll take. Should be interesting either way, though.

I’d bet on the first two options, tbh.

Speaking of, my off-the-wall theory on mutants is that Deadpool 3 will reveal them to have always existed in the MCU. This shall be accompanied by the appropriate meta jokes to cover up the retcon, and preferably with images of X-Men badly photoshopped into past scenes.

Unless they do something crazy they will probably do the Mutants/ Inhumans existed all along thing. Just have some kind of Terrigen accident and boom Ms. Marvel works

[Cannot think of a name]

I’d bet on the first two options, tbh.

Speaking of, my off-the-wall theory on mutants is that Deadpool 3 will reveal them to have always existed in the MCU. This shall be accompanied by the appropriate meta jokes to cover up the retcon, and preferably with images of X-Men badly photoshopped into past scenes.

Unless they do something crazy they will probably do the Mutants/ Inhumans existed all along thing. Just have some kind of Terrigen accident and boom Ms. Marvel works

That seems like the path of least resistance regarding mutants. The least convoluted. The Inhumans thing is basically just Inhumans. They've always been, then terrigen unlocks them. That's pretty much what they did on AoS, so it's still a matter of if they redo it or if AoS exists. Like how much Inhuman backstory are they going to want to include in a character driven superhero title? Ms Marvel is about Kamala as much as Spider-man is about Peter/Miles/Gwen. But then, it's also a series so they have like six hours.

[Lord Dominator]

Unless they do something crazy they will probably do the Mutants/ Inhumans existed all along thing. Just have some kind of Terrigen accident and boom Ms. Marvel works

That seems like the path of least resistance regarding mutants. The least convoluted. The Inhumans thing is basically just Inhumans. They've always been, then terrigen unlocks them. That's pretty much what they did on AoS, so it's still a matter of if they redo it or if AoS exists. Like how much Inhuman backstory are they going to want to include in a character driven superhero title? Ms Marvel is about Kamala as much as Spider-man is about Peter/Miles/Gwen. But then, it's also a series so they have like six hours.

Personally, I feel they’re likely to play mutants as only recently becoming a big thing - the four Infinity snaps between IW/Endgame (three on Earth) are as plausible a reason as any for sudden X-gene expression. Still plausible that there are existing mutants, though whether it’d be more interesting for there to only have been a few over time or to have been none is debatable.

Honestly, I’m basically proposing something I understand is similar to the current X-Men run under Hickman - a small to nonexistent population of mutants that suddenly explodes into being.

Inhumans, idk. Maybe they’ll just have her be a mutant or something.

[Christian Confederation]

That seems like the path of least resistance regarding mutants. The least convoluted. The Inhumans thing is basically just Inhumans. They've always been, then terrigen unlocks them. That's pretty much what they did on AoS, so it's still a matter of if they redo it or if AoS exists. Like how much Inhuman backstory are they going to want to include in a character driven superhero title? Ms Marvel is about Kamala as much as Spider-man is about Peter/Miles/Gwen. But then, it's also a series so they have like six hours.

Personally, I feel they’re likely to play mutants as only recently becoming a big thing - the four Infinity snaps between IW/Endgame (three on Earth) are as plausible a reason as any for sudden X-gene expression. Still plausible that there are existing mutants, though whether it’d be more interesting for there to only have been a few over time or to have been none is debatable.

Honestly, I’m basically proposing something I understand is similar to the current X-Men run under Hickman - a small to nonexistent population of mutants that suddenly explodes into being.

Inhumans, idk. Maybe they’ll just have her be a mutant or something.

Idk Charles and Magneto are kinda old mutants

[Cannot think of a name]

Personally, I feel they’re likely to play mutants as only recently becoming a big thing - the four Infinity snaps between IW/Endgame (three on Earth) are as plausible a reason as any for sudden X-gene expression. Still plausible that there are existing mutants, though whether it’d be more interesting for there to only have been a few over time or to have been none is debatable.

Honestly, I’m basically proposing something I understand is similar to the current X-Men run under Hickman - a small to nonexistent population of mutants that suddenly explodes into being.

Inhumans, idk. Maybe they’ll just have her be a mutant or something.

Idk Charles and Magneto are kinda old mutants

And Apocalypse is part of that cabal, right? I seem to remember him at a meeting taking credit for wiping out a civilization during negotiations. I've read very little of the whole Genosha living island nation of Mutants thing, I think just seeing if Logan, Scott, and Jean were living as a thruple. I need to catch up on all of this but I'm reading through Marvel Unlimited 'cause I ain't got no money for individual issues of comic books.

[Forsher]

Probably the best Disney+ MCU episode to date.

[Tarsonis]

Damn, Fake Captain America took the serum and became Captain Actual America.

[Cannot think of a name]

Damn, Fake Captain America took the serum and became Captain Actual America.

Goddammit, this so succinctly nails the episode I feel like anything else is gilding the lily.
but alas...

. Zemo is singular in his principle. Though I do like his surprise at Sam not pausing when he found himself thinking about it for a second. But then, Sam has met Bruce Banner and Ultron and Bucky. He's aware that Steve Rogers was a unique circumstance.

- I do like that the Flagsmashers and Sam are on that T'Challa/Killmonger level. "Yeah, this is fucked up but being more fucked up isn't the answer." Except in the case with Sam, he's not the king, even if he agrees if he defeats the Flagsmashers he has no power to end the fucked uppedness and in fact, the government has endorsed Captain Fucked Up and gave him the shield that Sam tried to retire.

- I'm guessing that shield gets taken to him as soon as new Cap murdering a dude goes viral and Sam and Bucky end up in that shield training center that was in Cap's roll out b-roll. Or Bucky finally loses it and steals the shield himself.

- Two episodes to go, increasing the chance that we've seen the Powerbroker already meaning that it's very likely Sharon Carter. Zemo gleefully destroying the serums kind of rules him out.

- I like that idea of paralleling Rogers losing Bucky with Walker losing Battlestar. His name is literally on his chest in most of his scenes and I can't remember it...dammit...

- How is Walker not fucking briefed on the Dora Milaje? I imagine the Dora Milaje is why Wakanda was a 'secret' for so long, these bald badasses would show up now and then and go, "poor agrarian country that you have no interest in" and everyone went, "yeah, sure, just quit beating us up..." Even after the fact after the last half dozen years he had to be briefed at some point, "Dora Milaje ain't nothing to fuck with..." Though I guess I could see him thinking it's just another special forces.

- I do like Sam and Bucky taking their time to figure out what side of that brawl they were on.

- So this is two projects in a row that lean really heavily on the resentment of people left behind for those who came back. I'm also realizing more and more how brilliant the blip is, they basically get to set the world to their liking now while still being in a Ben & Jerry's Skull Island pop culture environment.

Ooof, what were movies like during the blip?

[Tarsonis]

Damn, Fake Captain America took the serum and became Captain Actual America.

Goddammit, this so succinctly nails the episode I feel like anything else is gilding the lily.
but alas...

. Zemo is singular in his principle. Though I do like his surprise at Sam not pausing when he found himself thinking about it for a second. But then, Sam has met Bruce Banner and Ultron and Bucky. He's aware that Steve Rogers was a unique circumstance.

- I do like that the Flagsmashers and Sam are on that T'Challa/Killmonger level. "Yeah, this is fucked up but being more fucked up isn't the answer." Except in the case with Sam, he's not the king, even if he agrees if he defeats the Flagsmashers he has no power to end the fucked uppedness and in fact, the government has endorsed Captain Fucked Up and gave him the shield that Sam tried to retire.

- I'm guessing that shield gets taken to him as soon as new Cap murdering a dude goes viral and Sam and Bucky end up in that shield training center that was in Cap's roll out b-roll. Or Bucky finally loses it and steals the shield himself.

- Two episodes to go, increasing the chance that we've seen the Powerbroker already meaning that it's very likely Sharon Carter. Zemo gleefully destroying the serums kind of rules him out.

- I like that idea of paralleling Rogers losing Bucky with Walker losing Battlestar. His name is literally on his chest in most of his scenes and I can't remember it...dammit...

- How is Walker not fucking briefed on the Dora Milaje? I imagine the Dora Milaje is why Wakanda was a 'secret' for so long, these bald badasses would show up now and then and go, "poor agrarian country that you have no interest in" and everyone went, "yeah, sure, just quit beating us up..." Even after the fact after the last half dozen years he had to be briefed at some point, "Dora Milaje ain't nothing to fuck with..." Though I guess I could see him thinking it's just another special forces.

- I do like Sam and Bucky taking their time to figure out what side of that brawl they were on.

- So this is two projects in a row that lean really heavily on the resentment of people left behind for those who came back. I'm also realizing more and more how brilliant the blip is, they basically get to set the world to their liking now while still being in a Ben & Jerry's Skull Island pop culture environment.

Ooof, what were movies like during the blip?

What is masterful is that Walker is actually sympathetic. Like it's not evil for the sake of evil, you get the immense pressure he's under to try and live up to the moniker of Captain America. Even taking the serum isn't an easy choice for him, but ultimately one he feels he has to do. But unlike Rodgers, he wasn't worthy.

[Christian Confederation]

I haven't watched it yet but apparently John Walker Decapitated someone with the frickin shield

[Lord Dominator]

Snip

It’d be appreciated if you spoiler tag things you think are spoilers, or are.

[Tarsonis]

[spoiIer] haven't watched it yet but apparently John Walker Decapitated someone with the frickin shield[/spoiler]

Dude, what is up with you lately.

[Cannot think of a name]

Goddammit, this so succinctly nails the episode I feel like anything else is gilding the lily.
but alas...

. Zemo is singular in his principle. Though I do like his surprise at Sam not pausing when he found himself thinking about it for a second. But then, Sam has met Bruce Banner and Ultron and Bucky. He's aware that Steve Rogers was a unique circumstance.

- I do like that the Flagsmashers and Sam are on that T'Challa/Killmonger level. "Yeah, this is fucked up but being more fucked up isn't the answer." Except in the case with Sam, he's not the king, even if he agrees if he defeats the Flagsmashers he has no power to end the fucked uppedness and in fact, the government has endorsed Captain Fucked Up and gave him the shield that Sam tried to retire.

- I'm guessing that shield gets taken to him as soon as new Cap murdering a dude goes viral and Sam and Bucky end up in that shield training center that was in Cap's roll out b-roll. Or Bucky finally loses it and steals the shield himself.

- Two episodes to go, increasing the chance that we've seen the Powerbroker already meaning that it's very likely Sharon Carter. Zemo gleefully destroying the serums kind of rules him out.

- I like that idea of paralleling Rogers losing Bucky with Walker losing Battlestar. His name is literally on his chest in most of his scenes and I can't remember it...dammit...

- How is Walker not fucking briefed on the Dora Milaje? I imagine the Dora Milaje is why Wakanda was a 'secret' for so long, these bald badasses would show up now and then and go, "poor agrarian country that you have no interest in" and everyone went, "yeah, sure, just quit beating us up..." Even after the fact after the last half dozen years he had to be briefed at some point, "Dora Milaje ain't nothing to fuck with..." Though I guess I could see him thinking it's just another special forces.

- I do like Sam and Bucky taking their time to figure out what side of that brawl they were on.

- So this is two projects in a row that lean really heavily on the resentment of people left behind for those who came back. I'm also realizing more and more how brilliant the blip is, they basically get to set the world to their liking now while still being in a Ben & Jerry's Skull Island pop culture environment.

Ooof, what were movies like during the blip?

What is masterful is that Walker is actually sympathetic. Like it's not evil for the sake of evil, you get the immense pressure he's under to try and live up to the moniker of Captain America. Even taking the serum isn't an easy choice for him, but ultimately one he feels he has to do. But unlike Rodgers, he wasn't worthy.

I agree, and I think it's something that gets lost in criticizing Marvel's tendency to do same vs same when what they're really doing is personifying the chore conflict of a Marvel character, what do you do with that power and that responsibility? How do you react, what kind of person are you really when provided with that power? Even if your intent is to do good, you can end up doing bad, or even what is a 'good' use of power? Walker is a product of a certain mode of thinking and not 'bad'. I mean, his reaction to the loss of Battlestar isn't that different than Tony Stark's reaction to finding out that Bucky killed his parents...but also Zemo's reaction in a way to the loss of his family. He's the bad guy because he's not superhuman in controlling his emotional state and when you have the power of a super soldier you kind of have to be.

But the real question is...is Sharon Carter Mephisto?


That's not spoiled because...no. It's a joke. Clearly.

Oh, right, because of Madripoor Wolverine is the new Mephisto, even though some stained glass was also supposed to be Mephisto or something. But the Pink whatever Princess? Wolverine's bar was in it. Credit scene where she holds one last vial and she says "Prepare Weapon ten..."

Not really going to happen, I don't think we'll even get a hint of mutants because as pointed out a lot, this was in the works before Fox was bought and anything in phase IV is at best going to seed things like Madripoor but not really introduce mutants. Though who knows. Doctor Strange shows up and goes, "Did you hear about this crazy crap Wanda did in New Jersey a couple months ago?"

Whatever the ending is, it means that Sam and Bucky aren't on Talos/Fury's speed dial for the Elementals/Mysterio issue. Seems like a very Captain America thing. Spider-man didn't even entertain that as an option (probably because the writer at the time assumed that was it for Captain America not really knowing what was going on in F&tWS) but implies that obviously this new Captain America doesn't stick whether it's Walker or Sam. I imagine it's Sam going "seriously. fuck this as a symbol." and we won't get a new Captain America until Patriot, Isaiah's grandson. I don't see Sam coming out the other end of this wanting to be the symbol of America even if it's fitting, Steve was a representation of the ideal, Sam is a reminder that we have not lived up to that ideal.

[Xmara]

Goddammit, this so succinctly nails the episode I feel like anything else is gilding the lily.
but alas...

. Zemo is singular in his principle. Though I do like his surprise at Sam not pausing when he found himself thinking about it for a second. But then, Sam has met Bruce Banner and Ultron and Bucky. He's aware that Steve Rogers was a unique circumstance.

- I do like that the Flagsmashers and Sam are on that T'Challa/Killmonger level. "Yeah, this is fucked up but being more fucked up isn't the answer." Except in the case with Sam, he's not the king, even if he agrees if he defeats the Flagsmashers he has no power to end the fucked uppedness and in fact, the government has endorsed Captain Fucked Up and gave him the shield that Sam tried to retire.

- I'm guessing that shield gets taken to him as soon as new Cap murdering a dude goes viral and Sam and Bucky end up in that shield training center that was in Cap's roll out b-roll. Or Bucky finally loses it and steals the shield himself.

- Two episodes to go, increasing the chance that we've seen the Powerbroker already meaning that it's very likely Sharon Carter. Zemo gleefully destroying the serums kind of rules him out.

- I like that idea of paralleling Rogers losing Bucky with Walker losing Battlestar. His name is literally on his chest in most of his scenes and I can't remember it...dammit...

- How is Walker not fucking briefed on the Dora Milaje? I imagine the Dora Milaje is why Wakanda was a 'secret' for so long, these bald badasses would show up now and then and go, "poor agrarian country that you have no interest in" and everyone went, "yeah, sure, just quit beating us up..." Even after the fact after the last half dozen years he had to be briefed at some point, "Dora Milaje ain't nothing to fuck with..." Though I guess I could see him thinking it's just another special forces.

- I do like Sam and Bucky taking their time to figure out what side of that brawl they were on.

- So this is two projects in a row that lean really heavily on the resentment of people left behind for those who came back. I'm also realizing more and more how brilliant the blip is, they basically get to set the world to their liking now while still being in a Ben & Jerry's Skull Island pop culture environment.

Ooof, what were movies like during the blip?

What is masterful is that Walker is actually sympathetic. Like it's not evil for the sake of evil, you get the immense pressure he's under to try and live up to the moniker of Captain America. Even taking the serum isn't an easy choice for him, but ultimately one he feels he has to do. But unlike Rodgers, he wasn't worthy.

Yeah, I think this series is taking a really interesting approach to conflict by having two sympathetic villains. On one end you have Walker, who genuinely seems to be trying to live up to the moniker of Captain America, but is far from worthy of carrying the shield. Then on the other end, you have Karli Morgenthau, who seems to have decent goals (wanting to unite the world and make it a better place), but is going about it in the worst possible way. Two villains who both seem to want to do the right thing, but end up doing just the opposite. Two villains who are fighting against each other, not realizing that they're both in the wrong.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Names Are Too Hard]

Holy fuck that was grim

[Cannot think of a name]

What is masterful is that Walker is actually sympathetic. Like it's not evil for the sake of evil, you get the immense pressure he's under to try and live up to the moniker of Captain America. Even taking the serum isn't an easy choice for him, but ultimately one he feels he has to do. But unlike Rodgers, he wasn't worthy.

Yeah, I think this series is taking a really interesting approach to conflict by having two sympathetic villains. On one end you have Walker, who genuinely seems to be trying to live up to the moniker of Captain America, but is far from worthy of carrying the shield. Then on the other end, you have Karli Morgenthau, who seems to have decent goals (wanting to unite the world and make it a better place), but is going about it in the worst possible way. Two villains who both seem to want to do the right thing, but end up doing just the opposite. Two villains who are fighting against each other, not realizing that they're both in the wrong.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

There is a bit of echo from WandaVision, though in WandaVision Wanda was the villain. Then it was which 'good guy' was actually good in a productive way. Hayward was right to be concerned about Wanda's power and her indescriment use of it. Agatha was rightfully afraid of the amount of power that Wanda was wielding and didn't trust her with it, something that seems like has been her jam all along. It was Monica and the Mystery Squad who realized that if Wanda was their problem, she also had to be their solution. She was the one with the idea that Wanda needed to be talked down and anything else would cause her to dig deeper instead of come to her senses.

F&tWS seems to be taking a 'no real villains' approach where the Powerbroker is the only one in it for themselves. Here Sam and Bucky, the Flagsmashers, and Walker all think they're doing the right thing but in different ways that makes them at odds. All the Powerbroker really has done has introduced a catalyst for these three good guys to collide.

I'm starting to feel like the signs pointing to Sharon as the Powerbroker are too obvious and meant to misdirect. Unless it's a double blind where she's the Powerbroker on behalf of the US government. But then second to last episode is a bit late to dump a new character even if they've been hinted at, so we've likely seen the Powerbroker already increasing the chance of it being Sharon. Which naturally makes me think it's not Sharon.

And all of a sudden I'm Vizzini trying to decide what cup to drink from...

[Gig em Aggies]

There is a bit of echo from WandaVision, though in WandaVision Wanda was the villain. Then it was which 'good guy' was actually good in a productive way. Hayward was right to be concerned about Wanda's power and her indescriment use of it. Agatha was rightfully afraid of the amount of power that Wanda was wielding and didn't trust her with it, something that seems like has been her jam all along. It was Monica and the Mystery Squad who realized that if Wanda was their problem, she also had to be their solution. She was the one with the idea that Wanda needed to be talked down and anything else would cause her to dig deeper instead of come to her senses.

F&tWS seems to be taking a 'no real villains' approach where the Powerbroker is the only one in it for themselves. Here Sam and Bucky, the Flagsmashers, and Walker all think they're doing the right thing but in different ways that makes them at odds. All the Powerbroker really has done has introduced a catalyst for these three good guys to collide.

I'm starting to feel like the signs pointing to Sharon as the Powerbroker are too obvious and meant to misdirect. Unless it's a double blind where she's the Powerbroker on behalf of the US government. But then second to last episode is a bit late to dump a new character even if they've been hinted at, so we've likely seen the Powerbroker already increasing the chance of it being Sharon. Which naturally makes me think it's not Sharon.

And all of a sudden I'm Vizzini trying to decide what cup to drink from...

Just switch it around when we're looking away

Well I stated on a YouTube video what if the Powerbroker is actually Justin Hammer after he breaks out of prison right after the Snap happened and he fled to Madripoor to escape being re captured and Sharon Carter went there to locate him and instead got recruited by him instead putting her at odds with the US Government as well as the Falcon and Winter Soldier.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That was a really good episode hot damn

Walker has went completely off the deep end. Caved a dudes chest in with the shield holy fuck. That final shot of the shield just covered in blood was soo damn cool.

[HC Eredivisie]

But the real question is...is Sharon Carter Mephisto?

That's not spoiled because...no. It's a joke. Clearly.

You did notice the house Zimo takes them to in Riga has the number 4 X? Obviously a reference to Weapon IV, Man Thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Plus#Weapons_IV

Well I stated on a YouTube video what if the Powerbroker is actually Justin Hammer after he breaks out of prison right after the Snap happened and he fled to Madripoor to escape being re captured and Sharon Carter went there to locate him and instead got recruited by him instead putting her at odds with the US Government as well as the Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Hammer is not competent enough to do that, or even anything at all.

[Xmara]

Yeah, I think this series is taking a really interesting approach to conflict by having two sympathetic villains. On one end you have Walker, who genuinely seems to be trying to live up to the moniker of Captain America, but is far from worthy of carrying the shield. Then on the other end, you have Karli Morgenthau, who seems to have decent goals (wanting to unite the world and make it a better place), but is going about it in the worst possible way. Two villains who both seem to want to do the right thing, but end up doing just the opposite. Two villains who are fighting against each other, not realizing that they're both in the wrong.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

There is a bit of echo from WandaVision, though in WandaVision Wanda was the villain. Then it was which 'good guy' was actually good in a productive way. Hayward was right to be concerned about Wanda's power and her indescriment use of it. Agatha was rightfully afraid of the amount of power that Wanda was wielding and didn't trust her with it, something that seems like has been her jam all along. It was Monica and the Mystery Squad who realized that if Wanda was their problem, she also had to be their solution. She was the one with the idea that Wanda needed to be talked down and anything else would cause her to dig deeper instead of come to her senses.

F&tWS seems to be taking a 'no real villains' approach where the Powerbroker is the only one in it for themselves. Here Sam and Bucky, the Flagsmashers, and Walker all think they're doing the right thing but in different ways that makes them at odds. All the Powerbroker really has done has introduced a catalyst for these three good guys to collide.

I'm starting to feel like the signs pointing to Sharon as the Powerbroker are too obvious and meant to misdirect. Unless it's a double blind where she's the Powerbroker on behalf of the US government. But then second to last episode is a bit late to dump a new character even if they've been hinted at, so we've likely seen the Powerbroker already increasing the chance of it being Sharon. Which naturally makes me think it's not Sharon.

And all of a sudden I'm Vizzini trying to decide what cup to drink from...

Plot twist: the Powerbroker is Zemo, doing basically what he did in Civil War.

Jk I really don’t know.

[Christian Confederation]

I'm off to watch the new episode

[Christian Confederation]

So first off wow

Lamar is dead which sucked since he's the only likable part of that duo. Captain America 2 is now a super soldier and beheaded a guy. Zemo is MIA. Where did Sam's Sister and Nephews run off to. What's the news going to say about the new Captain America committing a murder from at least 30 different angles.

I can't wait for episode 5.

[Lord Dominator]

Yeah, I think this series is taking a really interesting approach to conflict by having two sympathetic villains. On one end you have Walker, who genuinely seems to be trying to live up to the moniker of Captain America, but is far from worthy of carrying the shield. Then on the other end, you have Karli Morgenthau, who seems to have decent goals (wanting to unite the world and make it a better place), but is going about it in the worst possible way. Two villains who both seem to want to do the right thing, but end up doing just the opposite. Two villains who are fighting against each other, not realizing that they're both in the wrong.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

There is a bit of echo from WandaVision, though in WandaVision Wanda was the villain. Then it was which 'good guy' was actually good in a productive way. Hayward was right to be concerned about Wanda's power and her indescriment use of it. Agatha was rightfully afraid of the amount of power that Wanda was wielding and didn't trust her with it, something that seems like has been her jam all along. It was Monica and the Mystery Squad who realized that if Wanda was their problem, she also had to be their solution. She was the one with the idea that Wanda needed to be talked down and anything else would cause her to dig deeper instead of come to her senses.

F&tWS seems to be taking a 'no real villains' approach where the Powerbroker is the only one in it for themselves. Here Sam and Bucky, the Flagsmashers, and Walker all think they're doing the right thing but in different ways that makes them at odds. All the Powerbroker really has done has introduced a catalyst for these three good guys to collide.

I'm starting to feel like the signs pointing to Sharon as the Powerbroker are too obvious and meant to misdirect. Unless it's a double blind where she's the Powerbroker on behalf of the US government. But then second to last episode is a bit late to dump a new character even if they've been hinted at, so we've likely seen the Powerbroker already increasing the chance of it being Sharon. Which naturally makes me think it's not Sharon.

And all of a sudden I'm Vizzini trying to decide what cup to drink from...

What is masterful is that Walker is actually sympathetic. Like it's not evil for the sake of evil, you get the immense pressure he's under to try and live up to the moniker of Captain America. Even taking the serum isn't an easy choice for him, but ultimately one he feels he has to do. But unlike Rodgers, he wasn't worthy.

I agree, and I think it's something that gets lost in criticizing Marvel's tendency to do same vs same when what they're really doing is personifying the chore conflict of a Marvel character, what do you do with that power and that responsibility? How do you react, what kind of person are you really when provided with that power? Even if your intent is to do good, you can end up doing bad, or even what is a 'good' use of power? Walker is a product of a certain mode of thinking and not 'bad'. I mean, his reaction to the loss of Battlestar isn't that different than Tony Stark's reaction to finding out that Bucky killed his parents...but also Zemo's reaction in a way to the loss of his family. He's the bad guy because he's not superhuman in controlling his emotional state and when you have the power of a super soldier you kind of have to be.

But the real question is...is Sharon Carter Mephisto?


That's not spoiled because...no. It's a joke. Clearly.

Oh, right, because of Madripoor Wolverine is the new Mephisto, even though some stained glass was also supposed to be Mephisto or something. But the Pink whatever Princess? Wolverine's bar was in it. Credit scene where she holds one last vial and she says "Prepare Weapon ten..."

Not really going to happen, I don't think we'll even get a hint of mutants because as pointed out a lot, this was in the works before Fox was bought and anything in phase IV is at best going to seed things like Madripoor but not really introduce mutants. Though who knows. Doctor Strange shows up and goes, "Did you hear about this crazy crap Wanda did in New Jersey a couple months ago?"

Whatever the ending is, it means that Sam and Bucky aren't on Talos/Fury's speed dial for the Elementals/Mysterio issue. Seems like a very Captain America thing. Spider-man didn't even entertain that as an option (probably because the writer at the time assumed that was it for Captain America not really knowing what was going on in F&tWS) but implies that obviously this new Captain America doesn't stick whether it's Walker or Sam. I imagine it's Sam going "seriously. fuck this as a symbol." and we won't get a new Captain America until Patriot, Isaiah's grandson. I don't see Sam coming out the other end of this wanting to be the symbol of America even if it's fitting, Steve was a representation of the ideal, Sam is a reminder that we have not lived up to that ideal.

While granted, giant monsters aren’t precisely a thing Spider-Man is good for, I’d observe it’s not like Bucky or Sam would exactly be any better suited.

I’m betting the powerbroker is just some dude, personally.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

So, all this time our Captain America is never a super soldier, but a human with best physical abilities like Batman?

[Vassenor]

So, all this time our Captain America is never a super soldier, but a human with best physical abilities like Batman?

US Agent was just a normal dude in peak condition up to this point, yes.