MCU/Superhero Discussion Thread

[Cisairse]

Oh fuck I totally forgot about Logan.

Best X-Men movie of all time, that one. Although it didn't really fit in with the First Class -> Apocalypse -> Dark Phoenix timeline so I usually think of those as separate.

[The first Galactic Republic]

The X-Men film timeline is weird. If you take all the movies at face value, Wolverine’s life is pretty complete. We see his origins in the first Wolverine movie, we see him as an X-Man, and then we see his end in Logan.

Problem is that these movies only sort of fit together. I just take the movies in one by one. It’s pointless to pretend everything was planned out.

[Cisairse]

The X-Men film timeline is weird. If you take all the movies at face value, Wolverine’s life is pretty complete. We see his origins in the first Wolverine movie, we see him as an X-Man, and then we see his end in Logan.

Problem is that these movies only sort of fit together. I just take the movies in one by one. It’s pointless to pretend everything was planned out.

You also see Jean Grey go all Dark Phoenix, then mysteriously come back to life twenty years later and go all Dark Phoenix again and nobody seems to be phased by this or see it coming the second time, even the people who were around the first time.

[Christian Confederation]

The X-Men film timeline is weird. If you take all the movies at face value, Wolverine’s life is pretty complete. We see his origins in the first Wolverine movie, we see him as an X-Man, and then we see his end in Logan.

Problem is that these movies only sort of fit together. I just take the movies in one by one. It’s pointless to pretend everything was planned out.

Exactly the original X-men movies were loosely tied together, they only tried to make a timeline after the MCU blew up wich blew up in there face killing the X-men franchise.
I do hope Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart reprise there roles when Disney does the MCU X-men. They are those characters and can't be replaced to easily.

[Lord Dominator]

The X-Men film timeline is weird. If you take all the movies at face value, Wolverine’s life is pretty complete. We see his origins in the first Wolverine movie, we see him as an X-Man, and then we see his end in Logan.

Problem is that these movies only sort of fit together. I just take the movies in one by one. It’s pointless to pretend everything was planned out.

Exactly the original X-men movies were loosely tied together, they only tried to make a timeline after the MCU blew up wich blew up in there face killing the X-men franchise.
I do hope Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart reprise there roles when Disney does the MCU X-men. They are those characters and can't be replaced to easily.

I see no reason not to use different actors actually, as having different people in those roles playing different interpetations of those characters is rather superior to having those same actors doing a different interpetation for precisely the reason you said.

[New haven america]

Exactly the original X-men movies were loosely tied together, they only tried to make a timeline after the MCU blew up wich blew up in there face killing the X-men franchise.
I do hope Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart reprise there roles when Disney does the MCU X-men. They are those characters and can't be replaced to easily.

I see no reason not to use different actors actually, as having different people in those roles playing different interpetations of those characters is rather superior to having those same actors doing a different interpetation for precisely the reason you said.

Also, Hugh Jackman said he was done with the X-Men and I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is too old to keep doing action movies, even if he was in a wheelchair for most of it.

Hell, in STP they had to use stunt doubles for him to do things like running up the stairs or jumping off a 3 foot high ledge.

[Christian Confederation]

I see no reason not to use different actors actually, as having different people in those roles playing different interpetations of those characters is rather superior to having those same actors doing a different interpetation for precisely the reason you said.

Also, Hugh Jackman said he was done with the X-Men and I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is too old to keep doing action movies, even if he was in a wheelchair for most of it.

Hell, in STP they had to use stunt doubles for him to do things like running up the stairs or jumping off a 3 foot ledge.

Your right, but if they ever do multiverse stuff they could come back for a cameo or something

[Ameriganastan]

I see no reason not to use different actors actually, as having different people in those roles playing different interpetations of those characters is rather superior to having those same actors doing a different interpetation for precisely the reason you said.

Also, Hugh Jackman said he was done with the X-Men and I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is too old to keep doing action movies, even if he was in a wheelchair for most of it.

Hell, in STP they had to use stunt doubles for him to do things like running up the stairs or jumping off a 3 foot high ledge.

Well, the dude is almost 80. Can't expect him to get around like he did during TNG anymore.

[Cannot think of a name]

Also, Hugh Jackman said he was done with the X-Men and I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is too old to keep doing action movies, even if he was in a wheelchair for most of it.

Hell, in STP they had to use stunt doubles for him to do things like running up the stairs or jumping off a 3 foot high ledge.

Well, the dude is almost 80. Can't expect him to get around like he did during TNG anymore.

It's hard to tell because the dude looks exactly like he did back in Excalibur.

[Myrensis]

Oh fuck I totally forgot about Logan.

Best X-Men movie of all time, that one. Although it didn't really fit in with the First Class -> Apocalypse -> Dark Phoenix timeline so I usually think of those as separate.

I never really liked the X-Men movies because it annoyed me how much they focused on Wolverine...but I agree that Logan was easily the best of them.

Presumably because it was an actual narrative/story focused on him, rather than ostensibly being an 'X-Men' movie that ended up being 'WOLVERINE and some other people do a thing'.

[Forsher]

Oh fuck I totally forgot about Logan.

Best X-Men movie of all time, that one. Although it didn't really fit in with the First Class -> Apocalypse -> Dark Phoenix timeline so I usually think of those as separate.

I never really liked the X-Men movies because it annoyed me how much they focused on Wolverine...but I agree that Logan was easily the best of them.

Presumably because it was an actual narrative/story focused on him, rather than ostensibly being an 'X-Men' movie that ended up being 'WOLVERINE and some other people do a thing'.

I'm not sure I agree with this characterisation. Yes, Wolverine is the POV character but these films are all about Charles and Magneto. Which is why Logan feels different... in the other films he's basically Scooby-Doo... you notice him more but he doesn't really do anything more notable than anyone else in Mystery Inc. (except in the solo movies).

Look, I know lots of people like Doctor Doom but Magneto is probably the single most compelling supervillain ever (incl. DC's who are honestly more "iconic" than "actually interesting" because there's a big difference) so I can see why they focussed on Magneto so much, but there was nothing but Magneto. Even when they tried to do something else (e.g. Apocalypse and both Dark Phoenixes) it was really just Magneto & Charles (and sometimes, Mystique... I mean, wtf!?). Given this, I don't know why people talk about "too much Wolverine"... they did hardly any of his famous storylines or supporting characters.

That being said, Fox-Men's Wolverine does get a good "full circle" storyline... again, in contrast, to Charles and Xavier who seem to be constantly on the verge of telling a story only for the next film to come out.

[Valrifell]

Oh fuck I totally forgot about Logan.

Best X-Men movie of all time, that one. Although it didn't really fit in with the First Class -> Apocalypse -> Dark Phoenix timeline so I usually think of those as separate.

I never really liked the X-Men movies because it annoyed me how much they focused on Wolverine...but I agree that Logan was easily the best of them.

Presumably because it was an actual narrative/story focused on him, rather than ostensibly being an 'X-Men' movie that ended up being 'WOLVERINE and some other people do a thing'.

It's a nice post-western except it focuses around superheroes instead of cowboys. By far the movie that has offered the most in terms of artistic value if you go for that sorta thing.

[Cannot think of a name]

Presuming all the remaining shooting was done and that there aren't any needed reshoots (HA!) I wonder if WandaVision will get pushed up again just to fill the need for content. I have doubts. But also, that Disney+ subscription feels kind of weighty without something to watch (I guess I should be watching Clone Wars. But I'm not caught up on old Clone Wars).

[HC Eredivisie]

It has 104 episodes of Ducktales though, and I mean the good old show, not the new one.

[Ameriganastan]

Agent Carter is coming back for the last season of Agents Of Shield.

Now I really gotta catch up on that show.

[Gig em Aggies]

one thing I do know is that the people in charge of Disney and the MCU aren't stupid who in there right mind would think that Disney would take movie making ideas from Peta of all people. Thor going Vegan my ass, that would be like when Star Trek made Sulu gay in Star trek beyond when even the OG Sulu himself George Takei said that wasn't needed.

https://movieweb.com/thor-4-vegan-peta/

[HC Eredivisie]

one thing I do know is that the people in charge of Disney and the MCU aren't stupid who in there right mind would think that Disney would take movie making ideas from Peta of all people. Thor going Vegan my ass, that would be like when Star Trek made Sulu gay in Star trek beyond when even the OG Sulu himself George Takei said that wasn't needed.

https://movieweb.com/thor-4-vegan-peta/

No, do it make but make it the reason he becomes unworthy to wield Mjolnir.

[Vassenor]

one thing I do know is that the people in charge of Disney and the MCU aren't stupid who in there right mind would think that Disney would take movie making ideas from Peta of all people. Thor going Vegan my ass, that would be like when Star Trek made Sulu gay in Star trek beyond when even the OG Sulu himself George Takei said that wasn't needed.

https://movieweb.com/thor-4-vegan-peta/

Are we really taking PETA's rantings seriously?

[New haven america]

It has 104 episodes of Ducktales though, and I mean the good old show, not the new one.

The new series is good though.

[Ameriganastan]

It has 104 episodes of Ducktales though, and I mean the good old show, not the new one.

The new series is good though.

It would be good if every goddamn episode wasn't focused on Webby. I gave up before season 1 was over cause of her.

[New haven america]

The new series is good though.

It would be good if every goddamn episode wasn't focused on Webby. I gave up before season 1 was over cause of her.

That's nice Ameri.

[Sarderia]

one thing I do know is that the people in charge of Disney and the MCU aren't stupid who in there right mind would think that Disney would take movie making ideas from Peta of all people. Thor going Vegan my ass, that would be like when Star Trek made Sulu gay in Star trek beyond when even the OG Sulu himself George Takei said that wasn't needed.

https://movieweb.com/thor-4-vegan-peta/

Seriously Disney. Are they not done yet alienating their largest fanbase? I doubt anyone in there even watch the MCU movies. After Marvel Comics got bombed very low because of Snowflake and Safespace, and then this. People just want to watch movies, that's all. Being vegan is good - I liked the idea of vegan burgers and even got to taste one and it's quite delicious. But there's no need to force every one of your life choices to the greater audience. No one cares about 1,000 gallons of water, 20 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions, and 30 square feet of forest Thor got to save by adopting a plant-based diet, especially if they're going to make this a plot device for Thor being fit again - people just wanted to watch their beloved superhero movie. That is disrespectful even to vegans.

[Lord Dominator]

one thing I do know is that the people in charge of Disney and the MCU aren't stupid who in there right mind would think that Disney would take movie making ideas from Peta of all people. Thor going Vegan my ass, that would be like when Star Trek made Sulu gay in Star trek beyond when even the OG Sulu himself George Takei said that wasn't needed.

https://movieweb.com/thor-4-vegan-peta/

Seriously Disney. Are they not done yet alienating their largest fanbase? I doubt anyone in there even watch the MCU movies. After Marvel Comics got bombed very low because of Snowflake and Safespace, and then this. People just want to watch movies, that's all. Being vegan is good - I liked the idea of vegan burgers and even got to taste one and it's quite delicious. But there's no need to force every one of your life choices to the greater audience. No one cares about 1,000 gallons of water, 20 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions, and 30 square feet of forest Thor got to save by adopting a plant-based diet, especially if they're going to make this a plot device for Thor being fit again - people just wanted to watch their beloved superhero movie. That is disrespectful even to vegans.

At no point in the relevant article did it say that the vegan thing was something actually happening, just that certain people want it to.

[Sarderia]

Seriously Disney. Are they not done yet alienating their largest fanbase? I doubt anyone in there even watch the MCU movies. After Marvel Comics got bombed very low because of Snowflake and Safespace, and then this. People just want to watch movies, that's all. Being vegan is good - I liked the idea of vegan burgers and even got to taste one and it's quite delicious. But there's no need to force every one of your life choices to the greater audience. No one cares about 1,000 gallons of water, 20 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions, and 30 square feet of forest Thor got to save by adopting a plant-based diet, especially if they're going to make this a plot device for Thor being fit again - people just wanted to watch their beloved superhero movie. That is disrespectful even to vegans.

At no point in the relevant article did it say that the vegan thing was something actually happening, just that certain people want it to.

Well you're right. I just hope none of this get to Taika Waititi. I'd hate seeing Thor 4 turned out same thing like the New Warriors comic.

[Cannot think of a name]

The new series is good though.

It would be good if every goddamn episode wasn't focused on Webby. I gave up before season 1 was over cause of her.

Holy shit you have beef with fucking Duck Tales.

That is awesome. Never change. Comic Book Guy has less beefs than you.