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Opinion on Thor: Love and Thunder

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36%
0 Stars
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34
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:31 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:There's a whole scene cut out about how the rehabilitation of predators that's part of a brutal programing ritual.


Are you being serious right now? Cause then I might actually write an article on how zootopia is a fascist nightmare...

Here.
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I fucking knew I shouldn't have picked Zootopia, I was trying to think of a movie people liked 'just fine'...


You should know by now we would have started this with any movie you picked, just cause.

True enough.
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Liriena wrote:Gonna be seeing Captain Marvel in less than an hour, y'all. Wish me luck. :lol:

Uh...good luck? Don't trip over a seat or choke on your popcorn or anything.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Are you being serious right now? Cause then I might actually write an article on how zootopia is a fascist nightmare...

Here.
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Tarsonis wrote:


You should know by now we would have started this with any movie you picked, just cause.

True enough.



Dear lord...it IS a fascist nightmare.... but more it's an SJW Utopia! THIS WHAT THEY WANT PEOPLE. STOP THE WHITE GENO..............(Sounds of Scuffle)...................
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:42 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Here.
also

True enough.



Dear lord...it IS a fascist nightmare.... but more it's an SJW Utopia! THIS WHAT THEY WANT PEOPLE. STOP THE WHITE GENO..............(Sounds of Scuffle)...................

I mean, it's been a while, but if I recall one of the resolutions of the movie was that 'taming parties' were a fucked up thing to do...
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:44 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Dear lord...it IS a fascist nightmare.... but more it's an SJW Utopia! THIS WHAT THEY WANT PEOPLE. STOP THE WHITE GENO..............(Sounds of Scuffle)...................

I mean, it's been a while, but if I recall one of the resolutions of the movie was that 'taming parties' were a fucked up thing to do...


Yeah, but I can just see now that if they had made the original plot line, the conspiracy reviews would be less "it's a fascist nightmare" and more "Zootopia is Alt-right propoganda"

in fact, if I tried hard enough, I could probably do it with the released plot line too.


...I might make a youtube channel dedicated to this kind of thing.......it would be hilarious.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:13 am

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So Zootopia operates on biblical principles? Interesting

There's a whole scene cut out about how the rehabilitation of predators that's part of a brutal programing ritual.

I fucking knew I shouldn't have picked Zootopia, I was trying to think of a movie people liked 'just fine'...

Incredibles?
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:51 am

I like how we use this thread to talk and speculate about the MCU and not use it to complain about eacht other's opinions...

aaw come on, guys. :(

Forsher wrote:That's the thing... I'm telling you 10's aren't outliers. That being said, [eople, in general, have some very silly ideas about outliers... you NEVER just dismiss them. If you tried to do that when talking to a statistician they'd laugh at you. It's not how it works. Grab a dataset of land mammal weights. What do we do with the elephants? Extreme values, certainly. Outliers, probably (now sure how close hippos and stuff get). False data? Definitely not.

In particular, you're calling 10's outliers because it's a "pretty big stretch". It's not a pretty big stretch... unless you think that people are generally very bad at predicting what they'll like. They're not.?
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works and that people watch movies they don't like. I know I did, life is long enough for that.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Reserved my ticket for tonight a few days ago. Here's my too easy prediction for the post-credits scene: She receives Fury's text.

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:22 am

HC Eredivisie wrote:I like how we use this thread to talk and speculate about the MCU and not use it to complain about eacht other's opinions...

aaw come on, guys. :(

Forsher wrote:That's the thing... I'm telling you 10's aren't outliers. That being said, [eople, in general, have some very silly ideas about outliers... you NEVER just dismiss them. If you tried to do that when talking to a statistician they'd laugh at you. It's not how it works. Grab a dataset of land mammal weights. What do we do with the elephants? Extreme values, certainly. Outliers, probably (now sure how close hippos and stuff get). False data? Definitely not.

In particular, you're calling 10's outliers because it's a "pretty big stretch". It's not a pretty big stretch... unless you think that people are generally very bad at predicting what they'll like. They're not.?
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works and that people watch movies they don't like. I know I did, life is long enough for that.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Reserved my ticket for tonight a few days ago. Here's my too easy prediction for the post-credits scene: She receives Fury's text.

What's it like to be this much of a genius? I couldn't tell you.
Wrong, her pager receives the text and when the camera pans out we see a bit of dust blowing away.


You're both wrong, we see Scott escape from the quantum verse
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Postby Olthar » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:33 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:I mean, if you stay off youtube and reddit and just watch the movie you don't really have to answer to anyone's agenda.

When it comes down to it, I couldn't tell you what the various review aggregate scores were for the movies I liked last year, even the ones with overt messages like Sorry to Bother You or Blackkklansman or Blindspotting. The tantrum children have tricked us into giving a shit about the score...I mean...imagine this, we're fusing over the reviews of a genre superhero movie. What in the world are we doing? When has critical reviews ever mattered for shit like that? What world are we living in that we're judging a superhero movie on what AO Scott thinks? I go into every superhero movie hoping I'll enjoy it. Hell I go into every movie hoping I'll enjoy it. It doesn't always happen but there's good news, there are 30 screens in walking distance from my house and I get to see three a week for a flat fee. I'll fucking get over it.

Honestly the film being 'okay' would be fucking great. Because people flipping their shit over a movie that's perfectly fine will look at their maximum ridiculous. No hipster claims of 'overrated' will land and the hysteria will just seem like what it is, unhinged. Like someone raging at Zootopia or something.

Fuck. There probably are people raging about Zootopia. But no one cares, because who cares about your passionate weird opinion about Zootopia? Let's relegate the whiners and saberrattlers to the level of people with passionate opinions about Zootopia and just not give a shit.


What do the carnivores actually eat? Zootopia is bullshit

Throughout the movie, we only ever see mammals, so, presumably, they are the only intelligent ones. Therefore, we can surmise that the predators probably eat birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish, and bugs.
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HC Eredivisie wrote:Wrong, her pager receives the text and when the camera pans out we see a bit of dust blowing away.


You're both wrong, we see Scott escape from the quantum verse

But we already know that. :eyebrow:
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You're both wrong, we see Scott escape from the quantum verse

But we already know that. :eyebrow:


But we didn’t see it
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HC Eredivisie wrote:I like how we use this thread to talk and speculate about the MCU and not use it to complain about eacht other's opinions...

aaw come on, guys. :(



At least you're not incredibly selective about this.

Forsher wrote:That's the thing... I'm telling you 10's aren't outliers. That being said, [eople, in general, have some very silly ideas about outliers... you NEVER just dismiss them. If you tried to do that when talking to a statistician they'd laugh at you. It's not how it works. Grab a dataset of land mammal weights. What do we do with the elephants? Extreme values, certainly. Outliers, probably (now sure how close hippos and stuff get). False data? Definitely not.

In particular, you're calling 10's outliers because it's a "pretty big stretch". It's not a pretty big stretch... unless you think that people are generally very bad at predicting what they'll like. They're not.?
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works and that people watch movies they don't like. I know I did, life is long enough for that.


Did you expect to dislike the films? Did you pay to watch them? Because we're mostly talking about the last case and if you're not talking about the first case, then you're not providing evidence against the idea because that's the idea... not anything else.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:38 pm

Well, I just got back aaaaaaaaand... it's good. Very good. Kinda weirdly unique, though. It does fully embrace the cosmic stuff and it looks good while doing it, while the more intimate scenes have a very indie film feel to them. The music is great. The cat and Talos steal the show. And I finally get why the mixed reactions to Brie Larson's performance: it's not bad, but it's very subdued. She gives Carol a personality of her own, but it's not a "big" personality, so it sometimes comes off as kinda low energy. That said, she does have good chemistry with everyone, so it kinda ends up being like Black Panther, where the main character shines most when in proximity to her supporting characters.

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Liriena wrote:Well, I just got back aaaaaaaaand... it's good. Very good. Kinda weirdly unique, though. It does fully embrace the cosmic stuff and it looks good while doing it, while the more intimate scenes have a very indie film feel to them. The music is great. The cat and Talos steal the show. And I finally get why the mixed reactions to Brie Larson's performance: it's not bad, but it's very subdued. She gives Carol a personality of her own, but it's not a "big" personality, so it sometimes comes off as kinda low energy. That said, she does have good chemistry with everyone, so it kinda ends up being like Black Panther, where the main character shines most when in proximity to her supporting characters.


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Liriena wrote:Well, I just got back aaaaaaaaand... it's good. Very good. Kinda weirdly unique, though. It does fully embrace the cosmic stuff and it looks good while doing it, while the more intimate scenes have a very indie film feel to them. The music is great. The cat and Talos steal the show. And I finally get why the mixed reactions to Brie Larson's performance: it's not bad, but it's very subdued. She gives Carol a personality of her own, but it's not a "big" personality, so it sometimes comes off as kinda low energy. That said, she does have good chemistry with everyone, so it kinda ends up being like Black Panther, where the main character shines most when in proximity to her supporting characters.


So would you recommend we go see it?

I definitely would. It's at the very least a solid origin story that does its own thing without many excesses. It does get a bit wobbly in its second act (but never outright bad or mediocre) and, comparing it to Wonder Woman, it has a very different, less self-serious and less milestone-ish feel.
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Andsed wrote:So would you recommend we go see it?

I definitely would. It's at the very least a solid origin story that does its own thing without many excesses. It does get a bit wobbly in its second act (but never outright bad or mediocre) and, comparing it to Wonder Woman, it has a very different, less self-serious and less milestone-ish feel.

I will say this, though: it doesn't deserve the immense politically motivated online hype and hate it's been getting. Its gender politics and their significance have been vastly overblown on both ends. Carol's character arc is kind of like a condensed version of Steve and Bucky's with very light gender undertones.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:05 pm

Liriena wrote:
Andsed wrote:So would you recommend we go see it?

I definitely would. It's at the very least a solid origin story that does its own thing without many excesses. It does get a bit wobbly in its second act (but never outright bad or mediocre) and, comparing it to Wonder Woman, it has a very different, less self-serious and less milestone-ish feel.


Well I see it in 2 hours, so I’ll add my reviews to the discussion
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Jenny Nicholson said it was good, which is encouraging, because she's someone whose tastes I've found tend to align with my own.
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Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Jenny Nicholson said it was good, which is encouraging, because she's someone whose tastes I've found tend to align with my own.

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HC Eredivisie wrote:I like how we use this thread to talk and speculate about the MCU and not use it to complain about eacht other's opinions...

aaw come on, guys. :(

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Movie was so good I didn’t even open my bunch a crunch.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:There's a whole scene cut out about how the rehabilitation of predators that's part of a brutal programing ritual.


Are you being serious right now? Cause then I might actually write an article on how zootopia is a fascist nightmare...


I fucking knew I shouldn't have picked Zootopia, I was trying to think of a movie people liked 'just fine'...


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:16 pm

Sometimes I really hate my time zone...

T minus 90 minutes.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:17 pm

New haven america wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Are you being serious right now? Cause then I might actually write an article on how zootopia is a fascist nightmare...




You should know by now we would have started this with any movie you picked, just cause.

Zootopia is a nightmare world pretending to be a paradise.


So we’re at communism
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