MCU/Superhero Discussion Thread

[Vassenor]

Brie Larson said she would like to see more diversity in movie press organisations and review groups and also has some political opinions.

Thus people have went on a tangent saying she hates white men, that white men should not see the movie, that she hates the fandom and a load of other retarded bollocks.


Oh and she doesnt smile thus she cant act.

Oh so a bunch of anti SJWs screeching.

So nothing out of the ordinary then. I will be still seeing it.

I think they've moved on to screeching about not being able to review-bomb the film and how that is censorship.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Brie Larson said she would like to see more diversity in movie press organisations and review groups and also has some political opinions.

Thus people have went on a tangent saying she hates white men, that white men should not see the movie, that she hates the fandom and a load of other retarded bollocks.


Oh and she doesnt smile thus she cant act.

Oh so a bunch of anti SJWs screeching.

So nothing out of the ordinary then. I will be still seeing it.

Also some people who are really really upset its no the very first captain marvel.

And some people who have appointed themselves warriors in this made up war between Shazam ("the real captain marvel") and captain marvel, and saying a load of crap, which Zachary Levi is not a fan of.

Oh yeah and some people began review bombing (well... want to see bombing) on rotten tomatoes because apparently captain marvel will destroy the MCU.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

I swear, I am going to be so generous with that movie when I see it, out of sheer spite.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh so a bunch of anti SJWs screeching.

So nothing out of the ordinary then. I will be still seeing it.

Also some people who are really really upset its no the very first captain marvel.

And some people who have appointed themselves warriors in this made up war between Shazam ("the real captain marvel") and captain marvel, and saying a load of crap, which Zachary Levi is not a fan of.

Oh yeah and some people began review bombing (well... want to see bombing) on rotten tomatoes because apparently captain marvel will destroy the MCU.

Yeah, I heard about that. Not really fan of this non existent war.

I will also be seeing Shazam cuz that looks really good.

That and WB is kinda kicking ass this year with that and Detective Pikachu.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I’m willing to bet Captain Marvel will pull in a domestic close to Black Panther in spite of all the screeching, and I’ll happily see it and Shazam.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I’m willing to bet Captain Marvel will pull in a domestic close to Black Panther in spite of all the screeching, and I’ll happily see it and Shazam.

Yeah i think both look good. And i know fuck all about both of them other than they existed so im excited for it as they are new for me.


Going to see Captain Marvel midnight premier with my brother

[Vassenor]

Also some people who are really really upset its no the very first captain marvel.

And some people who have appointed themselves warriors in this made up war between Shazam ("the real captain marvel") and captain marvel, and saying a load of crap, which Zachary Levi is not a fan of.

Oh yeah and some people began review bombing (well... want to see bombing) on rotten tomatoes because apparently captain marvel will destroy the MCU.

Yeah, I heard about that. Not really fan of this non existent war.

I will also be seeing Shazam cuz that looks really good.

That and WB is kinda kicking ass this year with that and Detective Pikachu.

I'm personally not that hype for Shazam so I probably won't be going to see it.

[Pasong Tirad]

Oh yeah and some people began review bombing (well... want to see bombing) on rotten tomatoes because apparently captain marvel will destroy the MCU.

What could have destroyed the MCU was Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3, so I'm glad we got over that hump.

[Cannot think of a name]

I’m willing to bet Captain Marvel will pull in a domestic close to Black Panther in spite of all the screeching, and I’ll happily see it and Shazam.

Yeah i think both look good. And i know fuck all about both of them other than they existed so im excited for it as they are new for me.


Going to see Captain Marvel midnight premier with my brother

I reserved my ticket last night because the theaters were filling up and I didn't think I'd get a decent seat if I waited and I wanted to go early. All the good theaters (dolby and Imax) were already full...Real 3D however, empty as a tomb. This reminds me of when I went to get my Avengers tickets oh those so many years ago. I went to the box office like a waif carrying water to the river (instead of no where I tell my phone to hook me up and I walk right in) and thought, "Well, I want to see it with people so I guess 3D?" and the box office chick was all, "Well, if you want to see it with people you're gonna have to go to the 2D, ain't no one in the 3D."

I have a feeling they're only still doing this 3D shit because they went and bought all the equipment and are just committed now.

Also, as the supposed offended party as a 40some year old white dude, I agree with what she said. A Wrinkle in Time wasn't made for me and whether or not I liked it is immaterial to whether it landed with its target audience. I don't know why this is a panty bunching statement. But then I'm not afraid of the mean ol' feminists stealing my fruity pebbles, so there's that.

I will also see Shazam because I use to watch Shazam! as a kid and liked it. And because I've been watching even the shitty DC movies anyway so why stop now? Also, it's tangentially my job to watch all this shit now anyway.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Jeremy Jahns review of Captain Marvel

He says straight off the bat, this is a no win review because of this stupid nonsense surrounding this movie.

[Liriena]

Metacritic has it at a 68 metascore, which was the same Infinity War got, while it has a 91% approval rating on RT, with an average rating of 7/10.

Time to bring out the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme for all the haters.

[Liriena]

Jeremy Jahns review of Captain Marvel

He says straight off the bat, this is a no win review because of this stupid nonsense surrounding this movie.

Wait... I thought his name was Jeremy Rahms... I've been living a lie.

EDIT: And, as always, the Youtube comments are terminal brain cancer.

[Liriena]

Oh yeah and some people began review bombing (well... want to see bombing) on rotten tomatoes because apparently captain marvel will destroy the MCU.

What could have destroyed the MCU was Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3, so I'm glad we got over that hump.

And Iron Man 3 wasn't even a critical or commercial flop, even by MCU standards. It just (understandably) pissed off a lot of fans with its one villain reveal.

An MCU flop isn't impossible. It will probably happen someday. But it's gonna take a series of really bad decisions for the franchise as a whole to be "destroyed". I mean, it took three critical failures in a row for the DCEU to lose steam.

[Cannot think of a name]

What could have destroyed the MCU was Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3, so I'm glad we got over that hump.

And Iron Man 3 wasn't even a critical or commercial flop, even by MCU standards. It just (understandably) pissed off a lot of fans with its one villain reveal.

An MCU flop isn't impossible. It will probably happen someday. But it's gonna take a series of really bad decisions for the franchise as a whole to be "destroyed". I mean, it took three critical failures in a row for the DCEU to lose steam.

And even then, the DCEU movies still make money. Because my dumb ass keeps going, "Nah, this time they got it figured it out...goddammit..." I mean, I'm going to watch Shazam, it looks good. This looks good. It all looks...


Look, alright. Geeks, gather around. Let an old timer geek lay it out for you.

Take. The fucking. Win.

Do you know how many super hero movies are coming out between now and July? Four. FOUR. And not little, half assed ones either. Big budget ones with comic accurate costumes and everything. Four. Captain Marvel, Shazam, Endgame, Far From Home.

That's how you're going to start your summer, by the way. Dark Phoenix is coming, Star Wars Episode IX.

Do you know how long I had to wait between Richard Donner's Superman and Tim Burton's Batman? I had to walk eleven years in the multiplex uphill bothways in three feet of popcorn to get two superhero movies worth a damn. And when I got a Captain America movie it was a forgettable affair with a rubber shield that was so bad they skipped the theater and went straight to video. Because Johnston was too busy giving me a kick ass Rocketeer.

You are living in a fucking golden age for geeks. You get to call yourself that like it's something cool, and not something people call you while they try and stuff your head in a toilet because you had the audacity to have an opinion on Ghost Rider. Now you get to treat that opinion like it's the most important motherfucking thing in the fucking world and you can't fucking enjoy it. Do you have to like every little morsel they feed you? No. The Ghost Rider movies were horrible and Iron Fist sucked. But you don't have to be a whiny little bitch about every little thing. It's not the end of the goddamn world if we take a moment and go, "You know, little girls might like this shit, too." My mom use to trade her L'il Abner comics for Green Lantern because no one would buy a girl super hero comic. It's not outlandish. Calm the fuck down and take the win. Take a breath, look around, recognize your golden age.

Because it won't be here forever. Especially if you're such whiny little bitches that it's not worth it to take your money. Don't think that's possible? Ask George Lucas what he's been up to recently.

[Tarsonis]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

Jawohl mein Kamerade

[Liriena]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

I'm gonna be that post-modern asshole and argue that our opinions will inevitably be guided by "narratives" because narratives exist in everything, even in the things that proclaim themselves "apolitical" or devoid of narratives.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

No, because that's impossible. The manbabies will genuinely dislike the film even if it's executed stupidly well. Their beliefs are a filter that affect the way they receive the film. Your beliefs will affect your opinion when you watch it. So will mine.

You can't escape your own biases. What you can do is introspect, recognise them, and admit them so others can take them into account when listening to you.

So while I joked earlier about consciously intending to be generous with the film, you should pretty much take that as an admission of my bias. I want this film to be good. I will be going into the cinema with a certain mindset.

[HC Eredivisie]

I just hope they managed to get Captain Marvel say 'Shazam' somewhere in the movie.

[Tarsonis]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

No, because that's impossible. The manbabies will genuinely dislike the film even if it's executed stupidly well. Their beliefs are a filter that affect the way they receive the film. Your beliefs will affect your opinion when you watch it. So will mine.

You can't escape your own biases. What you can do is introspect, recognise them, and admit them so others can take them into account when listening to you.

So while I joked earlier about consciously intending to be generous with the film, you should pretty much take that as an admission of my bias. I want this film to be good. I will be going into the cinema with a certain mindset.

All this is fairly true, but I'm biased in that I believe there is such thing as an objectively good/bad/mediocre film. Sure we might enjoy or hate films based on our bias' but that doesn't necessarily make the film good or bad. For instance my family loves the sharknado series, but openly admit they are terrible movies. Or me, I LOVED ID4:Resurgence, but I'll fully admit that it was a meh movie.

So I'm not asking about like/hate, but more can we acknowledge that it's actually a good/bad/mediocre/etc film, and not have to go through the whole Ghost Busters deal where everyone is prepared to die on the hill that Ghost Busters was a great movie and people who hate it are mysogonists, only for everything to die down in 6 months and people begrudgingly admit it's a terrible movie. At least, as far as this thread is concerned.


I have zero expectations for Captain Marvel, and I'm still gonna see it on Thursday, but mainly out of duty, the same way i watch the filler on Star Trek. But if it blows me away and is a fantastic movie, I'm not gonna force myself to hate just because "The SJW's" love it too or something.

[Cannot think of a name]

Can we at least all agree that whether the movie is terrible, mediocre, or amazing, that we're honest about it, and don't let narratives drive our opinions?

No, because that's impossible. The manbabies will genuinely dislike the film even if it's executed stupidly well. Their beliefs are a filter that affect the way they receive the film. Your beliefs will affect your opinion when you watch it. So will mine.

You can't escape your own biases. What you can do is introspect, recognise them, and admit them so others can take them into account when listening to you.

So while I joked earlier about consciously intending to be generous with the film, you should pretty much take that as an admission of my bias. I want this film to be good. I will be going into the cinema with a certain mindset.

This can be overcome, at least in one direction. Because I went into Last Jedi with a fuck he haters attitude but halfway through the casino heist I was finding myself going, "Goddammit...this movie sucks. Not for the reasons they're whining about, it's structural. Rey is fine, Rose is fin-wait, did she sacrifice herself to prevent Fin from sacrificing himself to make a point about not sacrificing yourself...what the fucking...GODDAMMIT!"

But I still think that people are giant manbabies about Star Wars, but Last Jedi was terrible for different reasons. It's possible. I'm not likely to come out of the theater going "Feminists are after my fruity pebbles" but if it's boring I might be prone to admitting it. But the bar it has to clear is Thor 2 or Iron Man 3, so I like its chances.

[Liriena]

I just hope they managed to get Captain Marvel say 'Shazam' somewhere in the movie.

Do you want Kevin Feige to get sued?

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

No, because that's impossible. The manbabies will genuinely dislike the film even if it's executed stupidly well. Their beliefs are a filter that affect the way they receive the film. Your beliefs will affect your opinion when you watch it. So will mine.

You can't escape your own biases. What you can do is introspect, recognise them, and admit them so others can take them into account when listening to you.

So while I joked earlier about consciously intending to be generous with the film, you should pretty much take that as an admission of my bias. I want this film to be good. I will be going into the cinema with a certain mindset.

All this is fairly true, but I'm biased in that I believe there is such thing as an objectively good/bad/mediocre film. Sure we might enjoy or hate films based on our bias' but that doesn't necessarily make the film good or bad. For instance my family loves the sharknado series, but openly admit they are terrible movies. Or me, I LOVED ID4:Resurgence, but I'll fully admit that it was a meh movie.

So I'm not asking about like/hate, but more can we acknowledge that it's actually a good/bad/mediocre/etc film, and not have to go through the whole Ghost Busters deal where everyone is prepared to die on the hill that Ghost Busters was a great movie and people who hate it are mysogonists, only for everything to die down in 6 months and people begrudgingly admit it's a terrible movie. At least, as far as this thread is concerned.


I have zero expectations for Captain Marvel, and I'm still gonna see it on Thursday, but mainly out of duty, the same way i watch the filler on Star Trek. But if it blows me away and is a fantastic movie, I'm not gonna force myself to hate just because "The SJW's" love it too or something.

That's not the sort of bias I'm talking about. That's just called being wrong. The idea that there are objectively good and bad movies, and that people who disagree are just in denial is like...artistic cancer. The idea that you're the one capable of reliably identifying this objective "quality" is just plain narcissistic.

You may not force yourself to hate it, but you'll probably have a lower opinion than if you went in wanting it to be good. You'll probably have a lower opinion of something you're seeing out of duty than you would of something you've been eagerly anticipating. You'll probably have a lower opinion than if the lead actor vocally supported political positions with which you agree. You might well have a lower opinion than you would if the protagonist was more like you. That's the bias I'm talking about, and you can't escape it. You can only acknowledge it.

[Tarsonis]

All this is fairly true, but I'm biased in that I believe there is such thing as an objectively good/bad/mediocre film. Sure we might enjoy or hate films based on our bias' but that doesn't necessarily make the film good or bad. For instance my family loves the sharknado series, but openly admit they are terrible movies. Or me, I LOVED ID4:Resurgence, but I'll fully admit that it was a meh movie.

So I'm not asking about like/hate, but more can we acknowledge that it's actually a good/bad/mediocre/etc film, and not have to go through the whole Ghost Busters deal where everyone is prepared to die on the hill that Ghost Busters was a great movie and people who hate it are mysogonists, only for everything to die down in 6 months and people begrudgingly admit it's a terrible movie. At least, as far as this thread is concerned.


I have zero expectations for Captain Marvel, and I'm still gonna see it on Thursday, but mainly out of duty, the same way i watch the filler on Star Trek. But if it blows me away and is a fantastic movie, I'm not gonna force myself to hate just because "The SJW's" love it too or something.

That's not the sort of bias I'm talking about. That's just called being wrong. The idea that there are objectively good and bad movies, and that people who disagree are just in denial is like...artistic cancer. The idea that you're the one capable of reliably identifying this objective "quality" is just plain narcissistic.

You may not force yourself to hate it, but you'll probably have a lower opinion than if you went in wanting it to be good. You'll probably have a lower opinion of something you're seeing out of duty than you would of something you've been eagerly anticipating. You'll probably have a lower opinion than if the lead actor vocally supported political positions with which you agree. You might well have a lower opinion than you would if the protagonist was more like you. That's the bias I'm talking about, and you can't escape it. You can only acknowledge it.

I'm not saying it's black and white, but theres definitely an objective quality gradient. Objectively, "American History X" is a better movie than "The Room." You make a fair point, but the reciprocal is also artistic cancer: that there is no objectively good or bad rating, and everything has value only to the beholder, also degrades the value of all art.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

That's not the sort of bias I'm talking about. That's just called being wrong. The idea that there are objectively good and bad movies, and that people who disagree are just in denial is like...artistic cancer. The idea that you're the one capable of reliably identifying this objective "quality" is just plain narcissistic.

You may not force yourself to hate it, but you'll probably have a lower opinion than if you went in wanting it to be good. You'll probably have a lower opinion of something you're seeing out of duty than you would of something you've been eagerly anticipating. You'll probably have a lower opinion than if the lead actor vocally supported political positions with which you agree. You might well have a lower opinion than you would if the protagonist was more like you. That's the bias I'm talking about, and you can't escape it. You can only acknowledge it.

I'm not saying it's black and white, but theres definitely an objective quality gradient. Objectively, "American History X" is a better movie than "The Room." You make a fair point, but the reciprocal is also artistic cancer: that there is no objectively good or bad rating, and everything has value only to the beholder, also degrades the value of all art.

Nah.