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Opinion on Across the Spider-Verse

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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Especially since you still need to explain with what was wrong with how TFATWS portrayed John Walker.

A dude who created his nation the same day he started posting one liner hot takes hasn't expounded on them?

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Bung Jared wrote:Marvel haven't made anything good since Infinity War.

endgame was better than infinity war

I prefer IW myself - Endgame kinda drags a but in the middle for me (+ I’m not as much for OG Avengers, and most of my other favorites were dusted).

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Postby Bung Jared » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:25 am

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Bung Jared wrote:Marvel haven't made anything good since Infinity War.


Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Especially since you still need to explain with what was wrong with how TFATWS portrayed John Walker.


Sam and Bucky have treated Walker with such disrespect that I have to blame them for any Walker's future incidences. The dude literally asked them for help on being the best Captain America he can be, and they declined because they're petty. They don't want a new Captain America, not even thinking about what the people of the country NEED after Endgame. He's going to be the next Captain America regardless of anyone's personal thoughts are on the matter, the least you can do is sympathize with his plight. I understand declining to assist him, but treat him like a human being instead of some malicious creature out to defame your best friend Rogers.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:34 am

Bung Jared wrote:
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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Especially since you still need to explain with what was wrong with how TFATWS portrayed John Walker.


Sam and Bucky have treated Walker with such disrespect that I have to blame them for any Walker's future incidences. The dude literally asked them for help on being the best Captain America he can be, and they declined because they're petty. They don't want a new Captain America, not even thinking about what the people of the country NEED after Endgame. He's going to be the next Captain America regardless of anyone's personal thoughts are on the matter, the least you can do is sympathize with his plight. I understand declining to assist him, but treat him like a human being instead of some malicious creature out to defame your best friend Rogers.


I don't recall him asking for help being Cap. I recall him demanding they work with him.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:05 am

Haha, apparently people are hiding rickrolls in fake Spider-man No Way Home trailers.

Of course I found this out by following some unsubstantiated clickbait title that suggested that the trailer was launching today at 11:30. Trying to find anyone else saying this I ran across that article. Should have taken the lack of a timezone as a sign I was about to be disappointed.


EDIT: This home theme in the naming is really getting on my nerves, apparently, because I keep calling it Far From Home instead of No Way Home. Three words, ends in home...fuck you Sony...
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:21 am

Spider-Man 4: Home Home Home

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:36 am

Lord Dominator wrote:Spider-Man 4: Home Home Home

Far Way Home. Pretty sure that would short circuit me forever.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:41 am

Ooh, I just realized since mom got Disney+ as part of that streaming bundle she bought, I won't have to pirate Loki like I did the last 2 shows. Fun.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:58 pm

"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:44 am

And so it begins...
The Mephisto got strong there for a second, but I wasn't going to fall for that again. Nice shout out to Nightmare, though.

HEAVY lean on setting up whatever is supposed to happen in Multiverse of Madness. They almost put those two words together. If I were to make a long range wild pitch, I'd say it's a early, early indication that the 'Infinity War/Endgame' of this saga is going to be Secret Wars. Not a lock, but Mobius' info-dump sure sounded like that was the set up. That could just be another case of Mephisto, though, who knows.

I guess he was DB Cooper just for the heck of it.

Little bit of a 'Brazil' thing going on.

A bit of a different Loki, but then he hasn't been the center of the narrative before, so...

The TVA and associated characters are not things I have read, so I'll just learn the easter eggs through all those breathless recap videos. No hints at Captain Britain who at one point was in charge of the 616 reality, he has to talk his authority person out of wiping 616 out because it's nothing but trouble when Wanda does her reality switching thing.

Kind of ready for this thing to get going now, though. That was a lot of set up.
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Postby Forsher » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:45 am

Loki Premiere (no credits scene)

The big twist is the DB Cooper incident was backstory, which, you know, kinda sucks... we saw pretty much everything there is to it in the trailers and it was blatantly included to have more action.

The main Minuteman is really unlikable... kinda wish they killed her off. And there was a moment where I thought Loki had.

As I predicted from the Legends episode the episode is pretty keen to shy away from the genocidal plan from Thor and spends most of the backhalf trying to rationalise Loki's actions... or, in other words, In Which Our Hero Undergoes All The Character Development from that One 2 Hour Film in 15-20 Minutes via Watching that Movie.

The Mephisto window might be a Loki window... I think the idea was that it was literally an image of Satan/the Devil, but in context of the later reveal that Loki is the fugitive variant, it in hindsight opens the possibility that Loki is the Christian Devil figure within the MCU.

On the whole, what looked like the MCU's version of Doctor Who from the Master's perspective plays seems to be playing out pretty much like that. I strongly suspect Mobius and dickhead Minuteman will eventually come around to the idea that the TVA is the problem due to Loki's interactions with them and their use of "set a Loki to catch a Loki".

A functional episode... the only bit I would say is legitimately good is Loki's escape to Mobius' return, but only from the moment Loki opens the drawer.


7/10
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:02 am

Gona give it a watch now
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:21 am

I really liked that, i thought it was a lot of fun.

I did wonder how they would approach time travel in end game since the TVA is basically time police but having the avengers travelling through time being what was supposed to happen makes sense i guess.

I really liked the interactions between Loki and Mobius, easily my favourite part of the episode. Owen Wilson is really good in this so far, looking forward to seeing more of him.

And the fugitive killing TVA agents is... also Loki so we have two Loki's running around.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I really liked that, i thought it was a lot of fun.

I did wonder how they would approach time travel in end game since the TVA is basically time police but having the avengers travelling through time being what was supposed to happen makes sense i guess.

I really liked the interactions between Loki and Mobius, easily my favourite part of the episode. Owen Wilson is really good in this so far, looking forward to seeing more of him.

And the fugitive killing TVA agents is... also Loki so we have two Loki's running around.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:13 am

Also i will say i found it funny when Loki looked into the drawer and saw all the infinity stones lying around like nothing.

These incredibly powerful items that people were desperate to use and find and here they are used as paper clips because they basically mean nothing in the TVA.

The look in his face was hilarious.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:35 am

Wait, so the Avengers could have just gone and fucking borrowed some stones from the TVA?! Well that would have been a very different Endgame.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:26 pm

Cat's are native to Earth so that was a Flerken in the TVA, Loki did seemed scared of it.


That staff at the end is referred to as from the early third millenium (in what counting), Endgame's time machine shows a date from 2999 and there's a time traveling Loki on the loose, 1+1=3?

edit, no the scan says 3212 I think
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:13 pm

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Wait, so the Avengers could have just gone and fucking borrowed some stones from the TVA?! Well that would have been a very different Endgame.


Obviously not, the TVA wouldn't have allowed it.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:45 pm

At least this time around there'll be no doing the math on 'when' this takes place in relation to Endgame.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:47 pm

I very much enjoyed that, looking forward to seeing how it plays out

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I really liked that, i thought it was a lot of fun.

I did wonder how they would approach time travel in end game since the TVA is basically time police but having the avengers travelling through time being what was supposed to happen makes sense i guess.

I really liked the interactions between Loki and Mobius, easily my favourite part of the episode. Owen Wilson is really good in this so far, looking forward to seeing more of him.

And the fugitive killing TVA agents is... also Loki so we have two Loki's running around.

Bunch of people in a Discord server I'm in are prediction the "evil" Loki will be Lady Loki, which would be interesting

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:57 pm

Alvecia wrote:I very much enjoyed that, looking forward to seeing how it plays out

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I really liked that, i thought it was a lot of fun.

I did wonder how they would approach time travel in end game since the TVA is basically time police but having the avengers travelling through time being what was supposed to happen makes sense i guess.

I really liked the interactions between Loki and Mobius, easily my favourite part of the episode. Owen Wilson is really good in this so far, looking forward to seeing more of him.

And the fugitive killing TVA agents is... also Loki so we have two Loki's running around.

Bunch of people in a Discord server I'm in are prediction the "evil" Loki will be Lady Loki, which would be interesting

I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
I mean, why else be cagey about the reveal since Mobius already said it was Loki if it's not going to be something like Lady Loki. Doesn't that arc end with Kid Loki joining the young Avengers or something? Maybe that's the Loki we'll get in Love & Thunder.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:24 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:At least this time around there'll be no doing the math on 'when' this takes place in relation to Endgame.

It’s travel (I assume), so all the when, technically.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:31 am

I really wish they picked a different acronym for this time bureau. Every time they say TVA, it makes me think of...well, the TVA.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:58 am

Ameriganastan wrote:I really wish they picked a different acronym for this time bureau. Every time they say TVA, it makes me think of...well, the TVA.

What are they hiding...WHAT ARE YOU HIDING, TENNESSEE? We're on to you...
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Postby Bung Jared » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:52 am

So if Uncle Ben hadn't of been shot he would have been melted?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:00 am

Bung Jared wrote:So if Uncle Ben hadn't of been shot he would have been melted?

If Uncle Ben hadn't been shot Peter Parker would have become a professional wrestler.
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