MCU/Superhero Discussion Thread

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

So the early reviews for Captain Marvel are apparently...not good.

If you got yourself a bad review, you may want to know that there are trolls out there who hate Captain Marvel with a passion. If you have Twitter account, take a look at Jeremy Conrad's account, he's the creator of MCU Cosmic. He knows that there are those who hate the movie and already review-bombed the movie through Rotten Tomatoes. He also said to trusts Cinema Score more.

Most of the reviews ended up good, tho. Great, even.

[Ameriganastan]

So the early reviews for Captain Marvel are apparently...not good.

If you got yourself a bad review, you may want to know that there are trolls out there who hate Captain Marvel with a passion. If you have Twitter account, take a look at Jeremy Conrad's account, he's the creator of MCU Cosmic. He knows that there are those who hate the movie and already review-bombed the movie through Rotten Tomatoes. He also said to trusts Cinema Score more.

Most of the reviews ended up good, tho. Great, even.

Nah, I just got clickbaited by the new Looper video.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

If you got yourself a bad review, you may want to know that there are trolls out there who hate Captain Marvel with a passion. If you have Twitter account, take a look at Jeremy Conrad's account, he's the creator of MCU Cosmic. He knows that there are those who hate the movie and already review-bombed the movie through Rotten Tomatoes. He also said to trusts Cinema Score more.

Most of the reviews ended up good, tho. Great, even.

Nah, I just got clickbaited by the new Looper video.

Huh, that's low even for Looper.

[Cannot think of a name]

The only bad shit I've read about Captain Marvel has essentially boiled down to "Oh no! Vaginas!" and that somehow disrespects the fans. Lots of people seem willing to speak 'for the fans.'

Watched a video today that couched inside all of its vagina panic "She's not even that popular a character so whyyyyyyyyyy..." as if Marvel Studios wasn't built off characters they couldn't bribe people into buying or mega hits like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't exactly blockbusters when they got their movies. Like we weren't going, "Can you really make an Ant-Man movie?" Dude, the last time we saw Ant Man in the public eye was Garret Morris making fun of him on SNL. The rest of it was the regular canard of unironically complaining about thrusting vaginas into shit. Oh and apparently the movie is bad because Brie wanted to not just talk to straight white dudes and maybe expand the fan base a bit, include someone else...heavens.

Frankly, the trailers look good to me. I never followed the character but I've been meaning to read Higher Further Faster, but I've wanted the character in the MCU because she's part of the landscape. Also because when the X Men join, then Rogue can get her bonus powers. Plus, it's not like I don't just watch everything anyway. Even DC stuff. I feel like there's enough of us on the hook that it really doesn't matter. If I'm not staying home for DC characters I don't give a shit about whose movies are objectively terrible it's not like I'm going to burn my Make Mine Marvel card if Captain Marvel doesn't blow me out of the water.

(I'm not a DC suxxors Marvel is the bestest you must choose! guy, I just liked Marvel more when I was younger and haven't been that into what they're doing with their movies at DC, except for 2/3rds of a Wonder Woman movie with a spotty third act.)

[New haven america]

The only bad shit I've read about Captain Marvel has essentially boiled down to "Oh no! Vaginas!" and that somehow disrespects the fans. Lots of people seem willing to speak 'for the fans.'

Watched a video today that couched inside all of its vagina panic "She's not even that popular a character so whyyyyyyyyyy..." as if Marvel Studios wasn't built off characters they couldn't bribe people into buying or mega hits like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't exactly blockbusters when they got their movies. Like we weren't going, "Can you really make an Ant-Man movie?" Dude, the last time we saw Ant Man in the public eye was Garret Morris making fun of him on SNL. The rest of it was the regular canard of unironically complaining about thrusting vaginas into shit. Oh and apparently the movie is bad because Brie wanted to not just talk to straight white dudes and maybe expand the fan base a bit, include someone else...heavens.

Frankly, the trailers look good to me. I never followed the character but I've been meaning to read Higher Further Faster, but I've wanted the character in the MCU because she's part of the landscape. Also because when the X Men join, then Rogue can get her bonus powers. Plus, it's not like I don't just watch everything anyway. Even DC stuff. I feel like there's enough of us on the hook that it really doesn't matter. If I'm not staying home for DC characters I don't give a shit about whose movies are objectively terrible it's not like I'm going to burn my Make Mine Marvel card if Captain Marvel doesn't blow me out of the water.

(I'm not a DC suxxors Marvel is the bestest you must choose! guy, I just liked Marvel more when I was younger and haven't been that into what they're doing with their movies at DC, except for 2/3rds of a Wonder Woman movie with a spotty third act.)

DC's animated movies and series are far better though.

Just sayin...

[Ameriganastan]

DC's animated movies and series are far better though.

Just sayin...

It's true. DC does better cartoons, Marvel does better live action.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

DC's animated movies and series are far better though.

Just sayin...

It's true. DC does better cartoons, Marvel does better live action.

Yup. 100 percent true.

[HC Eredivisie]

My idea for the Endgame stinger: a shot of an alien city with aliens happily doing their daily things when suddenly everything gets covered in shadows. The camera pans out to show the planet partially covered in darkness. Then the screen goes black and the last thing we hear is 'Galactus hungers!'

My guess is Kang, and that's what the time travel thing is about, it's a red herring that is a set up for Krang the Conquerer. Because Galactus was at Fox and I don't think they had the time to pull the trigger. And because Fantastic Four plans would have to be put in place.

True, it was just something I'd like to see. We problably get something for the Spider-man movie, is there even going to be an Avengers 5 anyway?

[Liriena]

So the early reviews for Captain Marvel are apparently...not good.

Funny. I got the entirely opposite impression. Lots, lots, lots of praise and only a very small handful of lukewarm reactions.

That being said, it's true that RT is getting bombarded with negative "reviews" from people who have not watched it.

[Liriena]

Seems like such a dumb thing to do to be honest, to hate a movie you haven't seen enough to reviewbomb it prior to it being released.

But the lead role is filled by a woman who dared to have opinions on social issues so something something SJW propaganda

The best thing about that subgenre of hot takes on why Captain Marvel is already a failure is that it seems to almost exclusively revolve around misquoting and misrepresenting something Brie Larson said to make it sound like she actively hates white men.

[Liriena]

Gotta say, though: based on some of the early reactions, it sounds like the movie's early marketing was waaaaaaaaaay off. They're describing the movie as leaning heavily on the cosmic and weird side of things, for one, but there's also a lot of praise for the one character that has been barely present in trailers and ads (Talos).

[Liriena]

Read otherwise earlier today

I’d be surprised if it was bad, or if any MCU movie was really bad. They have the formula down, and they’re always at least competently made now.

I mean... the closest thing the MCU has had to bad movies are that Edward Norton Hulk one and Thor 2, and neither of those is a garbage fire of filmmaking like, say, Suicide Squad.

[Lord Dominator]

Other serious villain suggestion for Endgame teaser, but some Doom would be amazing

[Cannot think of a name]

The only bad shit I've read about Captain Marvel has essentially boiled down to "Oh no! Vaginas!" and that somehow disrespects the fans. Lots of people seem willing to speak 'for the fans.'

Watched a video today that couched inside all of its vagina panic "She's not even that popular a character so whyyyyyyyyyy..." as if Marvel Studios wasn't built off characters they couldn't bribe people into buying or mega hits like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't exactly blockbusters when they got their movies. Like we weren't going, "Can you really make an Ant-Man movie?" Dude, the last time we saw Ant Man in the public eye was Garret Morris making fun of him on SNL. The rest of it was the regular canard of unironically complaining about thrusting vaginas into shit. Oh and apparently the movie is bad because Brie wanted to not just talk to straight white dudes and maybe expand the fan base a bit, include someone else...heavens.

Frankly, the trailers look good to me. I never followed the character but I've been meaning to read Higher Further Faster, but I've wanted the character in the MCU because she's part of the landscape. Also because when the X Men join, then Rogue can get her bonus powers. Plus, it's not like I don't just watch everything anyway. Even DC stuff. I feel like there's enough of us on the hook that it really doesn't matter. If I'm not staying home for DC characters I don't give a shit about whose movies are objectively terrible it's not like I'm going to burn my Make Mine Marvel card if Captain Marvel doesn't blow me out of the water.

(I'm not a DC suxxors Marvel is the bestest you must choose! guy, I just liked Marvel more when I was younger and haven't been that into what they're doing with their movies at DC, except for 2/3rds of a Wonder Woman movie with a spotty third act.)

DC's animated movies and series are far better though.

Just sayin...

Oh god yes. Very much the case. It's almost a total reversal, where the DC animated stuff is amazing, especially the stuff done by Bruce Timm, while most of the Marvel animated fare is on the embarrassing side.

[Cannot think of a name]

Other serious villain suggestion for Endgame teaser, but some Doom would be amazing

Mephisto. He was pulling the strings in Infinity Gauntlet anyway. Maybe then we could get a proper Ghost Rider and Silver Surfer.

[Lord Dominator]

Other serious villain suggestion for Endgame teaser, but some Doom would be amazing

Mephisto. He was pulling the strings in Infinity Gauntlet anyway. Maybe then we could get a proper Ghost Rider and Silver Surfer.

Ooh, having the nearly-literal Devil doing things would be pretty sweet yeah

[Olthar]

Other serious villain suggestion for Endgame teaser, but some Doom would be amazing

Mephisto. He was pulling the strings in Infinity Gauntlet anyway. Maybe then we could get a proper Ghost Rider and Silver Surfer.

As long as they stay far, far away from One More Day.

[Liriena]

Mephisto. He was pulling the strings in Infinity Gauntlet anyway. Maybe then we could get a proper Ghost Rider and Silver Surfer.

As long as they stay far, far away from One More Day.

Some Marvel storylines don't even deserve the easter egg treatment.

[The stanistanian peoples]

So, who do you think is gonna be the MCU version of Wolverine? I can't really think of anyone to replace Jackman. That dude is Wolverine.

CGI Hugh Jackman.

Knowing Disney it's a possibility. Being as we got CGI Tarkin in Rouge One.

[Liriena]

CGI Hugh Jackman.

Knowing Disney it's a possibility. Being as we got CGI Tarkin in Rouge One.

Tarkin was a glorified cameo. If the MCU is eventually gonna have Wolverine, I doubt they're going to give him the same treatment.

[The stanistanian peoples]

DC's animated movies and series are far better though.

Just sayin...

Oh god yes. Very much the case. It's almost a total reversal, where the DC animated stuff is amazing, especially the stuff done by Bruce Timm, while most of the Marvel animated fare is on the embarrassing side.

To Brush up on what you said about the Marvel fans getting ticked off about Captain Marvel being a woman, you forget that Marvel went full SJW for a time and their comics quality and sales dropped as a direct result (reeree williams for example) so while most don't mind Captain Marvel being female ( her movie will be many peoples first exposure to her) Most comic fans will just see this as Virtue signaling and gender pandering.

[The stanistanian peoples]

Knowing Disney it's a possibility. Being as we got CGI Tarkin in Rouge One.

Tarkin was a glorified cameo. If the MCU is eventually gonna have Wolverine, I doubt they're going to give him the same treatment.

True enough he was, but if they don't use CG than they'll probs just get a Jackman look alike for the roll.

[Lord Dominator]

CGI Hugh Jackman.

Knowing Disney it's a possibility. Being as we got CGI Tarkin in Rouge One.

Yeah, because they were trying to replicate a dead guy. Bit of a difference between that and a CGI thing of a living actor.

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh god yes. Very much the case. It's almost a total reversal, where the DC animated stuff is amazing, especially the stuff done by Bruce Timm, while most of the Marvel animated fare is on the embarrassing side.

To Brush up on what you said about the Marvel fans getting ticked off about Captain Marvel being a woman, you forget that Marvel went full SJW for a time and their comics quality and sales dropped as a direct result (reeree williams for example) so while most don't mind Captain Marvel being female ( her movie will be many peoples first exposure to her) Most comic fans will just see this as Virtue signaling and gender pandering.

People always eager to speak for the "fans."

[Cannot think of a name]

My guess is Kang, and that's what the time travel thing is about, it's a red herring that is a set up for Krang the Conquerer. Because Galactus was at Fox and I don't think they had the time to pull the trigger. And because Fantastic Four plans would have to be put in place.

True, it was just something I'd like to see. We problably get something for the Spider-man movie, is there even going to be an Avengers 5 anyway?

I think they decided announcing a full slate of movies in five year chunks was a waste of time after Inhumans became a terrible limited series and they realize the gave up the game by initially calling 3 & 4 "Infinity War 1&2". Now I think they're just introducing movies like a normal studio.

Or they're sitting on their hands because the landscape post Endgame changes and announcing the movies spoils that, with the timing of Far From Home being something that couldn't be avoided.