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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:51 pm

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Anywhere Else But Here wrote:It looks like next week's episode of Arrow is going to concern gun control, which should be interesting. I don't think they've really done enough with Oliver being mayor and the possibility of political arcs, so hopefully this marks the beginning of something.

So long as it's not as heavy-handed as the Supergirl immigration episode.

Yeah, Supergirl has been a little heavy-handed in the past, but judging by the trailer, it looks like Arrow will take a more measured view (it would be fairly hypocritical for Oliver to come out as staunchly anti-gun anyway).

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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:57 pm

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Ameriganastan wrote:So long as it's not as heavy-handed as the Supergirl immigration episode.

Yeah, Supergirl has been a little heavy-handed in the past, but judging by the trailer, it looks like Arrow will take a more measured view (it would be fairly hypocritical for Oliver to come out as staunchly anti-gun anyway).

Oliver is a walking hypocrisy. The guy racked up enough bodies to overflow a morgue, but now he's Mr. No Kill.
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Postby Seraven » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:07 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
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And it will be in a stand-alone universe.

Why? I don't know.

Probably cause the Arrowverse is already complicated enough with 4 shows.

Or it could be a test. Black Lightning isn't a super big name hero. Maybe they use the first season as a test. And if people take to the show, he finds his way into the show universe.


Obviously Legends of Tomorrow is filled with super big name heroes and heroines and villains too.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:40 am

Seraven wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Probably cause the Arrowverse is already complicated enough with 4 shows.

Or it could be a test. Black Lightning isn't a super big name hero. Maybe they use the first season as a test. And if people take to the show, he finds his way into the show universe.


Obviously Legends of Tomorrow is filled with super big name heroes and heroines and villains too.

They do have a former Black Canary in there. And Firestorm is fairly big name. A- list at the least.
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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:22 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Obviously Legends of Tomorrow is filled with super big name heroes and heroines and villains too.

They do have a former Black Canary in there. And Firestorm is fairly big name. A- list at the least.

I think Legends is a good show but it has most of the scraps. I've never even heard of the others except Black Canary before the shows.

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Postby Seraven » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:03 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Obviously Legends of Tomorrow is filled with super big name heroes and heroines and villains too.

They do have a former Black Canary in there. And Firestorm is fairly big name. A- list at the least.


Emphasizing on the former, yes. She's also a former League of Assassins. I know Firestorm from Justice League Unlimited, though. The Atom is also quite familiar, though his suit is less...technologically-advanced looking.

Heat Wave as well, come to think of it.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:41 pm

First the Penguin in the Telltale Batman games, now Mr. Mxyzptlk. Stop making funny, short villains into tall, good looking British guys.
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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:56 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:First the Penguin in the Telltale Batman games, now Mr. Mxyzptlk. Stop making funny, short villains into tall, good looking British guys.

Gotta say, this episode feels sort of like a "filler" episode (the next one with Mr. Mxyzptlk). It's gonna be funny but like, why?

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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:30 pm

Ugh. That was exactly as preachy and heavy handed as I feared. I'm here for superheroes, not politics.
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Postby Seraven » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:59 am

Ameriganastan wrote:Ugh. That was exactly as preachy and heavy handed as I feared. I'm here for superheroes, not politics.


The Gun Control episode?

How bad is it? Aside from the politics.
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An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:01 am

Seraven wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Ugh. That was exactly as preachy and heavy handed as I feared. I'm here for superheroes, not politics.


The Gun Control episode?

How bad is it? Aside from the politics.

The only thing it had besides the gun control thing, was the origin of Wild Dog. Little underwhelming, really.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Seraven » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:27 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Seraven wrote:
The Gun Control episode?

How bad is it? Aside from the politics.

The only thing it had besides the gun control thing, was the origin of Wild Dog. Little underwhelming, really.


They should explored his origin deeper and better.
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An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:30 am

Seraven wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:The only thing it had besides the gun control thing, was the origin of Wild Dog. Little underwhelming, really.


They should explored his origin deeper and better.

That's the thing. It's not that deep.
Junkie wife gets shot. Loses custody of kid. Sees Arrow kill Damien on TV. Becomes Wild Dog.
Though it did at least explain his shitty costume choice.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:22 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Seraven wrote:
They should explored his origin deeper and better.

That's the thing. It's not that deep.
Junkie wife gets shot. Loses custody of kid. Sees Arrow kill Damien on TV. Becomes Wild Dog.
Though it did at least explain his shitty costume choice.

That Arrow episode tho. So political. Also I agree, there was literally no development on Wild Dog. Kind of unrealistic, even fo one of these kind of shows. His wife gets shot, so suddenly he decides to become a vigilante.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:08 pm

Anxiety Cafe wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:That's the thing. It's not that deep.
Junkie wife gets shot. Loses custody of kid. Sees Arrow kill Damien on TV. Becomes Wild Dog.
Though it did at least explain his shitty costume choice.

That Arrow episode tho. So political. Also I agree, there was literally no development on Wild Dog. Kind of unrealistic, even fo one of these kind of shows. His wife gets shot, so suddenly he decides to become a vigilante.

Also, Curtis has officially become annoying. Not only is he useless, he's a snippy little bitch to boot.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:23 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Anxiety Cafe wrote:That Arrow episode tho. So political. Also I agree, there was literally no development on Wild Dog. Kind of unrealistic, even fo one of these kind of shows. His wife gets shot, so suddenly he decides to become a vigilante.

Also, Curtis has officially become annoying. Not only is he useless, he's a snippy little bitch to boot.

And the way they transformed him from Felicity's nerd friend to suddenly someone who can fight, it was confusing and actually made no sense (at least to me). At least with Roy and Laurel and Thea they had valid reasons and a lot of time for their transformations, and Dig was introduced with that skill.

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Postby NewLakotah » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:41 pm

I think a lot of the Arrowverse shows are progressing nicely. Arrow is still the best, Arrow/Oliver Queen is still the best lead superhero out of any of them. Flash, for me, has dropped quite a bit over the past season, its not bad, just not digging it as much as season 1.
I actually do enjoy Supergirl a lot. The first few episodes of season 1, and a large segment of season 1, was pretty poor, but passable, but Season 2 has definitely improved. The move to the CW was a smart one, and they fit much better there.
Legends season 2 is actually really good. Season 1 was a big disappointment for me, but they've really done a good job with season 2. I think the whole villain in the first season was just a bit overdone, like, come on. But season 2, has much better character development. They still get way over heavy-handed with the political stuff when they time travel. They always go back and immediately condemn everyone in the society as racist/sexist and whatnot. Its a bit overdone for my liking. Occasionally they do a good job with the story, but often they go for the easy "good message" then good story
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:03 pm

I'm 3 minutes in, and I already love this episode.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:51 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I'm 3 minutes in, and I already love this episode.

I take it back. This episode sucked. All romance bullshit and angst bullcrap.
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Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:23 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I'm 3 minutes in, and I already love this episode.

I take it back. This episode sucked. All romance bullshit and angst bullcrap.

I missed the first half, but
Anxiety Cafe wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:First the Penguin in the Telltale Batman games, now Mr. Mxyzptlk. Stop making funny, short villains into tall, good looking British guys.

Gotta say, this episode feels sort of like a "filler" episode (the next one with Mr. Mxyzptlk). It's gonna be funny but like, why?

Called it

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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:34 pm

It wasn't even funny, though. For cripes sake, they wasted one of the funniest Superman villains out there!
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Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:08 pm

"Gorilla City" my ass. They spent 90% of the episode locked in a cage, while regular people talked funny.
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:03 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:"Gorilla City" my ass. They spent 90% of the episode locked in a cage, while regular people talked funny.

Missed the first half again but the second part looks pretty good. The Legends episode I thought was pretty good too.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:03 pm

Legends on the another hand slayed it. I love me some Arthurian ham and sword fights.

And Sara inspires Lancelot while seducing her third queen. Get it, girl.
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Anxiety Cafe » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:05 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Legends on the another hand slayed it. I love me some Arthurian ham and sword fights.

And Sara inspires Lancelot while seducing her third queen. Get it, girl.

I know right. Really love the arc in this one. The JSA met Rip again??? They found the Spear? They were spread across time with four different parts? Wow, just wow. And that ending tho

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