The Arrowverse Thread

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:02 am

Catching up on episodes (think I've fallen four or five weeks behind). That Prometheus reveal was just...ugh.

by **Ameriganastan** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:23 am

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Catching up on episodes (think I've fallen four or five weeks behind). That Prometheus reveal was just...ugh.

Yuuuuuuuup. Get ready for Chase to become smary asshole villain incarnate.

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:42 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Catching up on episodes (think I've fallen four or five weeks behind). That Prometheus reveal was just...ugh.

Yuuuuuuuup. Get ready for Chase to become smary asshole villain incarnate.

I'm praying for some kind of twist whereby there's a man behind the man or two Prometheuses (Promethei?), or something, because this is just too damn obvious.

by **Hroudesreich** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:44 am

I was recently given the first season of this show, is it worthy watching?

by **Ameriganastan** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:48 am

Hroudesreich wrote:I was recently given the first season of this show, is it worthy watching?

Yes. Especially when they dispense with that weird realistic approach they had early on, and just go full superhero.

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:20 am

Eh, the musical was reasonably fun. It's no Buffy, though.

Also, has it struck anyone else how different Matt Letscher's Thawne is from Tom Cavanagh's? I like him, but the writers/directors don't even seem to be trying for the creep factor of Evil!Wells, to the point that they feel like totally different characters (when Thawne mentioned Cisco in the Moon episode, I was like "Oh yeah, he's supposed to be that guy!").

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:14 pm

Kinda surprised to see a thread for the Arrowverse. I have seen the first three seasons of Arrow as well as the first season of Flash, a bit of Supergirl and a few eps of Legends.

My favorite season so far was season 2 of Arrow. Loved the Supergirl/Flash crossover too.

Do we have a DCEU discussion thread?

by **Ameriganastan** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:17 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Do we have a DCEU discussion thread?

I don't believe we do. I could be wrong, though.

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:20 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Do we have a DCEU discussion thread?

I don't believe we do. I could be wrong, though.

This needs to be fixed.

Or maybe we should wait until WW or else the thread would just be swarmed by hordes of commenters offering their way to 'save' the 'doomed' DCEU. :unsure:

by **The Knockout Gun Gals** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:41 am

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I don't believe we do. I could be wrong, though.

This needs to be fixed.

Or maybe we should wait until WW or else the thread would just be swarmed by hordes of commenters offering their way to 'save' the 'doomed' DCEU.

Well to be fair, DCEU is kind of doomed with their rotten scored-movies.

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:12 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:
This needs to be fixed.

Or maybe we should wait until WW or else the thread would just be swarmed by hordes of commenters offering their way to 'save' the 'doomed' DCEU.

Well to be fair, DCEU is kind of doomed with their rotten scored-movies.

Not when they make 2 billion with 3 films. Rotten Tomatoes is hardly the be all judge of what is good.

by **The Knockout Gun Gals** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:15 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Well to be fair, DCEU is kind of doomed with their rotten scored-movies.

Not when they make 2 billion with 3 films. Rotten Tomatoes is hardly the be all judge of what is good.

Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

by **Anxiety Cafe** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:17 am

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:Not when they make 2 billion with 3 films. Rotten Tomatoes is hardly the be all judge of what is good.

Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

I prefer the MCU to the DCEU, but the Arrowverse is far better than Marvel TV.

by **Ameriganastan** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:46 am

Anxiety Cafe wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

I prefer the MCU to the DCEU, but the Arrowverse is far better than Marvel TV.

Cause the Arrowverse knows how to be fun every now and then. Every Marvel TV show is a total downer.

by **The Knockout Gun Gals** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:48 am

Anxiety Cafe wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

I prefer the MCU to the DCEU, but the Arrowverse is far better than Marvel TV.

Yes, me too, though the fact that I'm a total DC fan conflicting me.

Arrowverse at the very least have fair shares of actions and drama. Marvel TV has more drama and less action on the basis. To me, anyway. Netflix is quite good, better than Marvel TV.

Legion is a good one, despite being a joint Fox-Marvel TV.

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:43 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:Not when they make 2 billion with 3 films. Rotten Tomatoes is hardly the be all judge of what is good.

Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

Comparing 3 DCEU films to what, 14 MCU films is hardly fair. I prefer to keep comparisons in perspective. Comparing where the DCeU is now to where MCU was with 3 films DCEU is arguably doing better. At least as well as.

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:55 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Yes, but when you compared it with MCU...well.

Comparing 3 DCEU films to what, 14 MCU films is hardly fair. I prefer to keep comparisons in perspective. Comparing where the DCeU is now to where MCU was with 3 films DCEU is arguably doing better. At least as well as.

What metric are you using to make this claim? Because even the very forgettable Hulk film and disappointing Iron Man sequel did significantly better with the critics than the first three DC films (one average, two panned). Even with audiences, the MCU films still clearly come out on top.

by **Anxiety Cafe** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:12 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:Comparing 3 DCEU films to what, 14 MCU films is hardly fair. I prefer to keep comparisons in perspective. Comparing where the DCeU is now to where MCU was with 3 films DCEU is arguably doing better. At least as well as.

What metric are you using to make this claim? Because even the very forgettable Hulk film and disappointing Iron Man sequel did significantly better with the critics than the first three DC films (one average, two panned). Even with audiences, the MCU films still clearly come out on top.

Based on the critic ratings, I agree. I haven't seen the DCEU films yet, though, so I can't really have an opinion for this one. Plus, why can't you like both?

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:18 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:Comparing 3 DCEU films to what, 14 MCU films is hardly fair. I prefer to keep comparisons in perspective. Comparing where the DCeU is now to where MCU was with 3 films DCEU is arguably doing better. At least as well as.

What metric are you using to make this claim? Because even the very forgettable Hulk film and disappointing Iron Man sequel did significantly better with the critics than the first three DC films (one average, two panned). Even with audiences, the MCU films still clearly come out on top.

Assuming critics are the final authority on this matter sure. But you yourself just stated the Hulk fim was forgettable and Iron Man 2 was disappointing. As I said before audience and critics are not united in judging the DCEU. The fact is Movie for movie DC has been more succrssful and that is DESPITE critics.

Anyway, sorry to derail the topic slightly. I will consider making a DCEU thread to discuss the topic.

by **The Rebel Alliances** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:33 pm

Anxiety Cafe wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:What metric are you using to make this claim? Because even the very forgettable Hulk film and disappointing Iron Man sequel did significantly better with the critics than the first three DC films (one average, two panned). Even with audiences, the MCU films still clearly come out on top.

Based on the critic ratings, I agree. I haven't seen the DCEU films yet, though, so I can't really have an opinion for this one. Plus, why can't you like both?

You can like both. I know I do.

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:14 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:What metric are you using to make this claim? Because even the very forgettable Hulk film and disappointing Iron Man sequel did significantly better with the critics than the first three DC films (one average, two panned). Even with audiences, the MCU films still clearly come out on top.

Assuming critics are the final authority on this matter sure. But you yourself just stated the Hulk fim was forgettable and Iron Man 2 was disappointing. As I said before audience and critics are not united in judging the DCEU. The fact is Movie for movie DC has been more succrssful and that is DESPITE critics.

Anyway, sorry to derail the topic slightly. I will consider making a DCEU thread to discuss the topic.

So, we have three metrics: critic reviews, audience reviews, and financial success. The MCU wins two of these (the two that are likely the best indicators of quality, incidentally), and on this basis, the DCEU is doing "as well as or better"?

by **Ameriganastan** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:50 pm

Okay, think we're getting a little off-topic here.

by **Anywhere Else But Here** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:09 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Okay, think we're getting a little off-topic here.

Yes, but on the bright side, the thread is very active.

Okay, point of complaint: this entire season of Arrow could have been resolved by the Flash in five minutes.

by **Nation of Quebec** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:13 am

It's probably a good idea to have new threads for both the MCU and the DCEU to avoid getting off-topic here.

Flash and Supergirl are back on this week. I'm really starting to hate these long breaks shows are taking these days.

by **Anxiety Cafe** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:09 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Okay, think we're getting a little off-topic here.

Yes, but on the bright side, the thread is very active.

Okay, point of complaint: this entire season of Arrow could have been resolved by the Flash in five minutes.

Yeah, but then there wouldn't have been any plot. In that case, How could anyone with superspeed be taken out with a blow dart (when they went to rescue Harry from the gorillas)?

Nation of Quebec wrote:It's probably a good idea to have new threads for both the MCU and the DCEU to avoid getting off-topic here.

Flash and Supergirl are back on this week. I'm really starting to hate these long breaks shows are taking these days.

I agree, on both points. The hiatus breaks kind of ruin the suspense, because I would've forgotten some of the events of the past episodes if I hadn't watched the reruns. Also, the whole season two of Legends was on Netflix just a week after the finale, so I can finally catch up on pretty much the whole last season of Arrow.

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