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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:07 am

Alright, shut up Bralia and stop screwing around. Say something productive and interesting rather that parroting around like a twat:

I am Rome Reborn. All of the Mediterranean shall bow to me . . . after I get this piss-poor military off the ground, that is. Holy hell, for a major player in Europe, the Italian army is pure garbage. Well, either way, what I had was enough to take down the Filthy Neutral state. Next stop, Africa. I need easy oil.
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Ifreann
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:07 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bralia wrote:*eye twitch*


I'm going to whisper "élan" into your ear every time you go to sleep, all night long, for as long as you refuse to adopt Defensive ideas.

Okay so why is Defensive better then Quality?

Military Drill: +15% Morale of armies.
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:25 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bralia wrote:*eye twitch*


I'm going to whisper "élan" into your ear every time you go to sleep, all night long, for as long as you refuse to adopt Defensive ideas.

Okay so why is Defensive better then Quality?

First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.

Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.
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Eol Sha
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Ex-Nation

Postby Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:30 am

Alvecia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I endorse this rant. I am on your side, my Queen. Vive la France!
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Religious debate: Paradox style.

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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:32 am

Bralia wrote:Alright, shut up Bralia and stop screwing around. Say something productive and interesting rather that parroting around like a twat:

I am Rome Reborn. All of the Mediterranean shall bow to me . . . after I get this piss-poor military off the ground, that is. Holy hell, for a major player in Europe, the Italian army is pure garbage. Well, either way, what I had was enough to take down the Filthy Neutral state. Next stop, Africa. I need easy oil.

Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy. :p
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:52 am

Bralia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:+10% Taxes mate!

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Protestant benefits are way better than Reformed, though. Combined with France's Elan and...BOOM.

Alright, I've enough of these insults and libel! Protestantism "benefits", if you can even call them that are permanent, but minuscule. A mere fraction of the power that Reformed offers, in powerful bursts. You want to talk about French élan, I'll show you some of my own élan towards this drivel: To claim that Protestantism's 5% morale boost is worth something compared to Reformed's 15%, is facetious bordering on propaganda based upon petty things like actual beliefs systems and "honor". The Reformed burst can easily last long enough even for long, drawn-out wars so long as you time things right and use the ability when the built up power has reached its cap.

Going further, the Reformed economic benefits easily outstrip Protestantism's innate 10% taxes when building an empire with global desires. The trade power you can leverage with Reformed can make a noticeable effect when its 10% increases affect numbers going into the hundreds when being pulled in from trade from all around the world. A true French Empire stretching across the world would bathe in the money exploited by the Reformed faith.

Meanwhile, I need not make a case for the power Reformed (+1) diplomatic reputation and (-2) unrest reduction when dealing with vassals and conquest, respectively.

Don't you people talk to ME about this horseshit about Protestantism ever being worth a daaaaaaamn thing. My fervor is absolute!

*My Fervent lady: +50 opinion modifier*

Great Nepal wrote:All this heresy about French greatness is inspiring me to play as England, the obviously better of the pair and kill France... yes I should do that.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:53 am

Bralia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Okay so why is Defensive better then Quality?

First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.

Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.

Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.

England be fucked.

Padishah you are my brother! :D
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:57 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bralia wrote:First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.

Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.

Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.

England be fucked.

Padishah you are my brother! :D

And so it begins.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:22 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

And so it begins.

And soon my eyes shall turn to the Spanish border.

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:05 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Bralia wrote:Alright, shut up Bralia and stop screwing around. Say something productive and interesting rather that parroting around like a twat:

I am Rome Reborn. All of the Mediterranean shall bow to me . . . after I get this piss-poor military off the ground, that is. Holy hell, for a major player in Europe, the Italian army is pure garbage. Well, either way, what I had was enough to take down the Filthy Neutral state. Next stop, Africa. I need easy oil.

Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy. :p

The new Italian tree is especially sexy. You actually get the option to not attack someone who's infinitely stronger than you (the German tree wants you to commit suicide against NATO) or pointless backwaters (no offense, Chechnyans). Only the Chinese tree is comparable when it comes to good, guided conquest choices. Haven't tried them yet, though.

Genivaria wrote:
Bralia wrote:First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.

Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.

Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.

England be fucked.

Padishah you are my brother! :D

Excellent.

Also, what is going on with the Armée de Jura? :blink:
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Imperial Idaho
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Postby Imperial Idaho » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:08 pm

Albanians even suggesting they can be free.
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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:14 pm

Bralia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy. :p

The new Italian tree is especially sexy. You actually get the option to not attack someone who's infinitely stronger than you (the German tree wants you to commit suicide against NATO) or pointless backwaters (no offense, Chechnyans). Only the Chinese tree is comparable when it comes to good, guided conquest choices. Haven't tried them yet, though.

It is really nice, isn't it. :)

Wish there was a communism branch, though. Ah well.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:28 pm

Bralia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy. :p

The new Italian tree is especially sexy. You actually get the option to not attack someone who's infinitely stronger than you (the German tree wants you to commit suicide against NATO) or pointless backwaters (no offense, Chechnyans). Only the Chinese tree is comparable when it comes to good, guided conquest choices. Haven't tried them yet, though.


Excellent.

Also, what is going on with the Armée de Jura? :blink:

Oh yeah...I've had an empty army stack that I can't delete for a few decades now.
I've just learned to ignore it.

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Igoria
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:31 pm

Bralia wrote:Because EUIV definitely covers those time periods. Your efforts to discredit the glory of France ring hollow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia
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Anywhere Else But Here
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Ex-Nation

Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:04 pm

Igoria wrote:
Bralia wrote:Because EUIV definitely covers those time periods. Your efforts to discredit the glory of France ring hollow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia

"Defeated because your enemies found you too terrifying to face" is a pretty glorious way to lose.

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Igoria
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:15 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:

"Defeated because your enemies found you too terrifying to face" is a pretty glorious way to lose.

"Starving to death in droves because of your leader's vanity" is hardly glorious.
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Anywhere Else But Here
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:28 pm

Igoria wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:"Defeated because your enemies found you too terrifying to face" is a pretty glorious way to lose.

"Starving to death in droves because of your leader's vanity enemies' cowardly retreat."

FTFY.

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Postby Gondolaulus » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:33 pm

That moment when you subjugate a count, imprison his two year old daughter, demand his subjugation and then execute his daughter by letting her be trampled by horses.

I wonder why he hates me.
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Igoria
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:34 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
Igoria wrote:"Starving to death in droves because of your leader's vanity and enemies' cowardly retreat superior strategy."

FTFY.

FTFY that FTFY?

Starving to death whatever the cause is still inglorious.
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:41 pm

Igoria wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:FTFY.

FTFY that FTFY?

Starving to death whatever the cause is still inglorious.

What if you starve to death on hunger strike protesting a terrible injustice?

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Igoria
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:43 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
Igoria wrote:FTFY that FTFY?

Starving to death whatever the cause is still inglorious.

What if you starve to death on hunger strike protesting a terrible injustice?

Touché.
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Renoa
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Renoa » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Bralia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:All this heresy about French greatness is inspiring me to play as England, the obviously better of the pair and kill France... yes I should do that.

You can't play England without taking Naval and Maritime ideas, easily the best idea sets in the game.

Or you can not bother with a navy and have Austria and Portugal do all of the work of defending your shores for you.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Herargon » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:17 pm

Bralia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
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Morsmordre!
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If you like philosophy, then here you can see what your own philosophical alignements are.

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:48 pm

Bralia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
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I was thinking more Chaos myself.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:14 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Bralia wrote:*eye twitch*


I'm going to whisper "élan" into your ear every time you go to sleep, all night long, for as long as you refuse to adopt Defensive ideas.

Okay so why is Defensive better then Quality?


Morale boost.

Fort boost.

Fort reduction maintenance.
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