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by Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:07 am
by Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:25 am
by Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:30 am
by Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:32 am
Bralia wrote:Alright, shut up Bralia and stop screwing around. Say something productive and interesting rather that parroting around like a twat:
I am Rome Reborn. All of the Mediterranean shall bow to me . . . after I get this piss-poor military off the ground, that is. Holy hell, for a major player in Europe, the Italian army is pure garbage. Well, either way, what I had was enough to take down the Filthy Neutral state. Next stop, Africa. I need easy oil.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:52 am
Bralia wrote:Genivaria wrote:+10% Taxes mate!Altito Asmoro wrote:
Protestant benefits are way better than Reformed, though. Combined with France's Elan and...BOOM.
Alright, I've enough of these insults and libel! Protestantism "benefits", if you can even call them that are permanent, but minuscule. A mere fraction of the power that Reformed offers, in powerful bursts. You want to talk about French élan, I'll show you some of my own élan towards this drivel: To claim that Protestantism's 5% morale boost is worth something compared to Reformed's 15%, is facetious bordering on propaganda based upon petty things like actual beliefs systems and "honor". The Reformed burst can easily last long enough even for long, drawn-out wars so long as you time things right and use the ability when the built up power has reached its cap.
Going further, the Reformed economic benefits easily outstrip Protestantism's innate 10% taxes when building an empire with global desires. The trade power you can leverage with Reformed can make a noticeable effect when its 10% increases affect numbers going into the hundreds when being pulled in from trade from all around the world. A true French Empire stretching across the world would bathe in the money exploited by the Reformed faith.
Meanwhile, I need not make a case for the power Reformed (+1) diplomatic reputation and (-2) unrest reduction when dealing with vassals and conquest, respectively.
Don't you people talk to ME about this horseshit about Protestantism ever being worth a daaaaaaamn thing. My fervor is absolute!
*Disloyal lad -50 opinion modifier*Great Nepal wrote:All this heresy about French greatness is inspiring me to play as England, the obviously better of the pair and kill France... yes I should do that.
by Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:53 am
Bralia wrote:Genivaria wrote:Okay so why is Defensive better then Quality?
First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.
Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:57 am
Genivaria wrote:Bralia wrote:First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.
Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.
Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.
England be fucked.
Padishah you are my brother!
by Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:22 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Genivaria wrote:Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.
England be fucked.
Padishah you are my brother!
And so it begins.
by Bralia » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:05 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Bralia wrote:Alright, shut up Bralia and stop screwing around. Say something productive and interesting rather that parroting around like a twat:
I am Rome Reborn. All of the Mediterranean shall bow to me . . . after I get this piss-poor military off the ground, that is. Holy hell, for a major player in Europe, the Italian army is pure garbage. Well, either way, what I had was enough to take down the Filthy Neutral state. Next stop, Africa. I need easy oil.
Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy.
Genivaria wrote:Bralia wrote:First off, I should assure you that I'm just being a twat and not actually telling you how to play.
Secondly, I'll still answer that question because I seriously do value Defensive over Quality, most of the time. Stacking morale bonuses is seriously strong as France. Making yourself stronger where you're already strong means nothing but good and OP things. The combat abilities of Quality can't compare, not in France's situation. I also highly value the economic benefits (land maintenance and fort cost reductions) in Defensive, allowing yourself to support more armies earlier than if you'd go with Quality. An extra army on the field with its super-élan most certainly means more than combat abilities. And lastly, I believe that reinforce speed is one of the most underrated abilities in the entire game. Whenever suffering from combat, regardless of whether you win or lose it, being able to get your manpower into that army quicker means you can get into other fights quicker. That ability is so valuable to me. And the last of the strong ideas is taking less attrition on your armies. That one needs no explanation, it's just a good, solid perk to have. Quality just doesn't have enough going for it, especially on nations that don't synergize with it.
Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.
England be fucked.
Padishah you are my brother!
by Imperial Idaho » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:08 pm
I'm from the land of Coeur D'alene Idaho.
By Ballot or by Bullet, the Pub Party will win. The Pub Legacy Edition.Ifreann wrote:The Romans placated the people with panem et circenses, bread and circuses. We will placate our people with dank space weed and hyper-HD vidya.Tysoania wrote:You remind me of a mobster who gets things cleared out of the way.
Next up on the Sopranos...
Imperial "Slick" Idaho, the fixer.Bralia wrote:Oh my fucking god. Do it again, guys, you both chose the number 7.
by Eol Sha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:14 pm
Bralia wrote:Eol Sha wrote:Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy.
The new Italian tree is especially sexy. You actually get the option to not attack someone who's infinitely stronger than you (the German tree wants you to commit suicide against NATO) or pointless backwaters (no offense, Chechnyans). Only the Chinese tree is comparable when it comes to good, guided conquest choices. Haven't tried them yet, though.
by Genivaria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:28 pm
Bralia wrote:Eol Sha wrote:Hey! I'm doing an Italy campaign! I was unsure of what to do, but seeing this? I've decided to revive fascist Italy.
The new Italian tree is especially sexy. You actually get the option to not attack someone who's infinitely stronger than you (the German tree wants you to commit suicide against NATO) or pointless backwaters (no offense, Chechnyans). Only the Chinese tree is comparable when it comes to good, guided conquest choices. Haven't tried them yet, though.Genivaria wrote:Was just at war with Austria alongside Ottomans.
Ottomans made Austria give up their over-lordship over England.
England be fucked.
Padishah you are my brother!
Excellent.
Also, what is going on with the Armée de Jura?
by Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:31 pm
Bralia wrote:Because EUIV definitely covers those time periods. Your efforts to discredit the glory of France ring hollow.
by Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:04 pm
Igoria wrote:Bralia wrote:Because EUIV definitely covers those time periods. Your efforts to discredit the glory of France ring hollow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia
by Igoria » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:15 pm
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
"Defeated because your enemies found you too terrifying to face" is a pretty glorious way to lose.
by Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:28 pm
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by Herargon » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:17 pm
How scifi alliances actually work.Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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