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Postby The Canadian North-West » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:46 pm

Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:47 pm

The Canadian North-West wrote:Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.

I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.
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Postby Deutsch-Afrika » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:50 pm

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The Canadian North-West wrote:Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.

I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

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Postby The Canadian North-West » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm

Herador wrote:
The Canadian North-West wrote:Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.

I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

I do not plan to get the whole suite, I'm not that into that era of history XD
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:53 pm

Herador wrote:
The Canadian North-West wrote:Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.

I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

If you buy the bundles I think you can get the base game and most of the DLC for like $50. That just leaves the newer DLC, which go on sale often enough. Altogether, if you only buy during sales, you could get the whole thing for about $80-100 I'd estimate.

That's not including all the cosmetic DLCs, though, but those aren't as important IMO since modders can fill in most of those gaps anyway.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:55 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Herador wrote:I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

If you buy the bundles I think you can get the base game and most of the DLC for like $50. That just leaves the newer DLC, which go on sale often enough. Altogether, if you only buy during sales, you could get the whole thing for about $80-100 I'd estimate.

That's not including all the cosmetic DLCs, though, but those aren't as important IMO since modders can fill in most of those gaps anyway.

But if my Anglo-Saxon warriors don't look perfectly era-specific, whatever the hell will I do????
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:28 pm

Herador wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:If you buy the bundles I think you can get the base game and most of the DLC for like $50. That just leaves the newer DLC, which go on sale often enough. Altogether, if you only buy during sales, you could get the whole thing for about $80-100 I'd estimate.

That's not including all the cosmetic DLCs, though, but those aren't as important IMO since modders can fill in most of those gaps anyway.

But if my Anglo-Saxon warriors don't look perfectly era-specific, whatever the hell will I do????

:lol: Honestly, I've barely looked at the warrior models since my first-ever game. Is that heresy?
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Postby Kannap » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:38 pm

On the ledge of jumping for buying Hearts of Iron IV, but something is holding me back and I don't know what.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:41 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Herador wrote:But if my Anglo-Saxon warriors don't look perfectly era-specific, whatever the hell will I do????

:lol: Honestly, I've barely looked at the warrior models since my first-ever game. Is that heresy?


No, I barely zoom in that much either.
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Postby New Mecedonian » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:52 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hotzendorf is a cool name, but the man was an alabaster reject when it came to military plans.


What did you say?! The brilliant three offensives he planned to defeat the Russians at Przemysl have been major successes! Just the casualties are high and goals haven't be reached, but who cares?!


He also has a cool mustache that makes up for his military failures.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:32 pm

Alright after installing and testing a game of Victoria II as Flanders I would like suggestions as to what I should do for a long play.

As for my Flanders game I released and played as Wallonie which despite only doing it to not deal with belgium having a puppet still made me attempt to choke myself. Then I tagged over to Belgium to release and play as Flanders and then tagged over to England to remove Belgium from sphere (i'm not that kind of suicidal). Now back to Flanders set my options and hit play. Now began the race and restarts to find allies before the Dutch invaded. Prussia and Spain were eager to sign on board after a few rolls and the Dutch went after the Wallonians first thankfully and refused to do 2 wars at once. They annexed Wallonie resulting in a world record for earliest border gore. At the same time I annexed Brussels which I had a core on and Belgium doesn't give away Brussels on release. Now the Dutch invaded resulting in a desperate gamble to hold them off long enough for the Prussian Advance and Spanish distraction in the colonies. Unfortunately the Dutch soon dragged in Austria and instead of getting Wallonie i settled for a white peace. The prestige catapulted me into secondary power status. Then using my victorious allies I generated a war goal to take Algiers from France. A gamble if I've ever heard of one. Prussia did what Prussia does and poured a shit ton of soldiers into france and had most of the nation occupied. Spain despite losing some territory held on long enough for Prussia to take out enough of the French and their allies and as a result we Won Algiers and I was a top secondary power. Then came the hard part. Winning a war by myself. Tunis was isolated and so with the scraps of an army we sailed to Algiers and began the hellish war against Tunis. After a dreadful campaign we won. Then hell itself happened. The truce with the dutch expired and they came marching through wiping me out. Thankfully Prussia is best ally and they destroyed the dutch allowing me to annex Wallonie and Prussia took Gelderland. Now to work with spheres. And soon after I had elevated Flanders to Great Power Status solely through prestige (granted it took a lot of lucky losses by other GPS and secondaries). Algeria itself and Egypt were wrangled into my Sphere. Sadly however, The Flemish Wild Ride ended with stumbling into a war with France and their allies when Algeria revolted whilst being allied to France. Prussia had a truce and wouldn't intervene so I had been annihilated over night. I tried to ally the Russians and drag them into this but they weren't fast enough. Before France could rip me apart I resigned and exiled myself to Jan Mayen where I was promptly ripped apart by Polar Bears.

Result: Flanders became a great power
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Postby Kannap » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:52 pm

Kannap wrote:On the ledge of jumping for buying Hearts of Iron IV, but something is holding me back and I don't know what.


I bought it so here is to hoping I like it.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:20 pm

Kannap wrote:
Kannap wrote:On the ledge of jumping for buying Hearts of Iron IV, but something is holding me back and I don't know what.


I bought it so here is to hoping I like it.

If for whatever reason you don't like it, you really should give the Kaiserreich mod before writing off the game entirely.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:25 pm

Bralia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I bought it so here is to hoping I like it.

If for whatever reason you don't like it, you really should give the Kaiserreich mod before writing off the game entirely.


After completing the tutorial, I think I am going to like it. I just need to wait two weeks to buy a mouse because I cannot stand playing without it (my last mouse had been limping for a few weeks and finally died today).
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:53 pm

Herador wrote:
The Canadian North-West wrote:Well, finally picked up Hearts of Iron IV since it was on sale, and Victoria II while I was at it, leaving me with only CKII to nab at some point in the future.

I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

Why would you have to pay that much for it?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:30 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Herador wrote:I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

Why would you have to pay that much for it?

DLCs. But as I said above, sales can cut that down drastically.
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Postby Mazujotai » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:56 pm

Kannap wrote:Should I buy Hearts of Iron IV?

Pros vs. cons, go!

It's a little more Arcady when compared to other releases by paradox. Focuses far more of warfare than anything else and is very much dialed in for that. You can rack that as a pro or a con.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Herador wrote:I don't think "nab" is the right word for a game that's going to cost you $150 USD.

Why would you have to pay that much for it?

Because Paradox likes money and idiots like me pay to change the models of their little dudes.

Nature-Spirits wrote::lol: Honestly, I've barely looked at the warrior models since my first-ever game. Is that heresy?

I like to zoom in and look at them sit there sometimes. Give them a name, a story. Where did they come from? Who do they love? Who loves them back? These are all things I like to think about.

Then I like to think about how fucking stupid it was that I bought them.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:54 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Why would you have to pay that much for it?

DLCs. But as I said above, sales can cut that down drastically.

I play vanilla. I know, it's bizarre to live in the dark ages.
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Postby Herador » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:05 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:DLCs. But as I said above, sales can cut that down drastically.

I play vanilla. I know, it's bizarre to live in the dark ages.

Not being able to see Persia would be weird.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:11 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:DLCs. But as I said above, sales can cut that down drastically.

I play vanilla. I know, it's bizarre to live in the dark ages.

:eek:

Honestly, I used to be like that.

Then I decided I wanted to be able to play as more than just Christians.

Then I tried a couple overhaul mods and now I never play vanilla anymore and really just get the DLCs so that I can appreciate all the cool things modders do with the new mechanics.

Still, though, I only buy video games on sale. Just as I really only buy anything on sale. Working in retail will do that to you. ;)
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Lunas Legion wrote:So, it's 1865. It's been 6 years since Italy got unified and 5 since it got its teeth kicked in, legs broken, $2000 Gucci handbag stolen before being dumped in the arse end of who knows where. One year after unification, France comes in swinging to take Savoy, then barely a week later Austria comes along and demands I release Romagna and give them Lombardy back.

Needless to say I peace out with the French immediately by giving them Savoy to try and stop the Austrians. I almost succeed, but ultimately they have too many men and too many small German allies so I lose.


How can Italy be so strong in here and yet they were barely strong in WW1?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:34 am

What are the best doctrines in HOI4? Specifically land doctrines, because they seem the most useful.

Also, what use are ships? I don't understand the naval aspect of warfare at all.
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