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San Lumen wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because they just had their fill on some peasants out in the countryside

Thats one instance

You can actually find multiple dead groups of people like this in the game with fire and scorch marks. There is also that house that was mentioned on here before near a dragon wall that was burnt down and the couple inside killed. And all the times dragons attack towns and cities when the player is around.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Thats one instance

You can actually find multiple dead groups of people like this in the game with fire and scorch marks. There is also that house that was mentioned on here before near a dragon wall that was burnt down and the couple inside killed. And all the times dragons attack towns and cities when the player is around.

and what of the dragons that dont attack?

San Lumen wrote:

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:They're a people forced out of their homes, having their children and families massacred by rich Nordic landowners that want to exploit their lands for their own financial gain while they get forced into the dregs of society of their own land.

They're fighting a war against their oppressors who have more wealth, more manpower, and better equipment than them, of course they'll resort to extreme measures lol.

are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

The Reachmen were in talks with the Empire following the Great War about letting the Reachmen rule the Reach while staying a part of the Empire - their rule of the Reach during that time being noted as a peaceful time and with them only actually going after the most particularly gruesome of Nordic landowners from before.

Then in come Ulfric and his militia, slaughtering innocents, including children, left and right. The Empire does nothing. The rich Nord landowners go back to their shtick. The Reachmen are made second class inhabitants, below all other people living there, once again.

If anyone, the Nords have made it very clear, over the centuries, that they really don't care for any 'settlements' or peace between their peoples - and it's the direct reason that the measures they're resorting to are as extreme as they are. They've been in this situation, and almost always on the backfoot, since the First Era.

San Lumen wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:You can actually find multiple dead groups of people like this in the game with fire and scorch marks. There is also that house that was mentioned on here before near a dragon wall that was burnt down and the couple inside killed. And all the times dragons attack towns and cities when the player is around.

and what of the dragons that dont attack?

They are still dragons and most likely have attacked innocents and will continue to do so. As Huskar mentioned if you complete the Forsworn Conspiracy there is a group of Forsworn who will not attack you. Are you willing to spare them?

San Lumen wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:You can actually find multiple dead groups of people like this in the game with fire and scorch marks. There is also that house that was mentioned on here before near a dragon wall that was burnt down and the couple inside killed. And all the times dragons attack towns and cities when the player is around.

and what of the dragons that dont attack?

You do realise right, that just because you dont see a specific dragon attack you or anyone else during a very specific and short time frame in a single day, that they still could attack or have attacked other people?

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:

San Lumen wrote:are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

The Reachmen were in talks with the Empire following the Great War about letting the Reachmen rule the Reach while staying a part of the Empire - their rule of the Reach during that time being noted as a peaceful time and with them only actually going after the most particularly gruesome of Nordic landowners from before.

Then in come Ulfric and his militia, slaughtering innocents, including children, left and right. The Empire does nothing. The rich Nord landowners go back to their shtick. The Reachmen are made second class inhabitants, below all other people living there, once again.

If anyone, the Nords have made it very clear, over the centuries, that they really don't care for any 'settlements' or peace between their peoples - and it's the direct reason that the measures they're resorting to are as extreme as they are. They've been in this situation, and almost always on the backfoot, since the First Era.

Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

The Forsworn have some form of justification for their actions.
Dragons do not.
Forsworn are human and thus are as diverse in their natures, beliefs and characters as any other person.
Dragons are not.

San Lumen wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:We shouldnt murder dragons, some of them are just misunderstood!

What about the Forsworn?

Barbaric cunts that need to be wiped out, drown the reach in their blood!

They are barbaric

Calm down Caesar this isn't the Fallout thread.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

San Lumen wrote:They are barbaric

Calm down Caesar this isn't the Fallout thread.

something something ellen degeneres on a cross

https://imgur.com/YG73Jjt
Oh Skyrim...

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

San Lumen wrote:They are barbaric

Calm down Caesar this isn't the Fallout thread.

Challenge accepted!

Dresderstan wrote:

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Calm down Caesar this isn't the Fallout thread.

Challenge accepted!

You dare fight a Dunmer!

San Lumen wrote:

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Reachmen were in talks with the Empire following the Great War about letting the Reachmen rule the Reach while staying a part of the Empire - their rule of the Reach during that time being noted as a peaceful time and with them only actually going after the most particularly gruesome of Nordic landowners from before.

Then in come Ulfric and his militia, slaughtering innocents, including children, left and right. The Empire does nothing. The rich Nord landowners go back to their shtick. The Reachmen are made second class inhabitants, below all other people living there, once again.

If anyone, the Nords have made it very clear, over the centuries, that they really don't care for any 'settlements' or peace between their peoples - and it's the direct reason that the measures they're resorting to are as extreme as they are. They've been in this situation, and almost always on the backfoot, since the First Era.

Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

Not really no.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

Not really no.

Are you kidding me? He won't allow Argonians to live in the city. Elves are forced to live in a slum called the Gray Quarter perhaps you've heard of it?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

Not really no.

What did you think the phrase "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" was about? Pumpkins?

Lumen, the whole "dragons flying around doing nothing" thing is a bug.

They're a supposed to lock onto a target and attack, primarily the player character but since they're hostile to everything it doesn't really matter if they lock onto the Dragonborn or just some rabbit. The problem is because they can fly they have to have a much larger detection radius (this is why they can detect you if you try to sneak below them while they're flying) than most other actors in the game. Except it doesn't always work right, meaning they can't lock onto a target so they register that there isn't one by mistake and then take off.

This can be fixed by either attacking the dragon or, if the dragon is near a large structure like a mountain, by trying to get to higher ground and thus close enough for the dragon to detect you properly.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

Not really no.

Ulfric is an established racist who only cares about non-Nords when it benefits him.

You're living in clown world if you think otherwise.

The Imperial Reach wrote:Lumen, the whole "dragons flying around doing nothing" thing is a bug.

They're a supposed to lock onto a target and attack, primarily the player character but since they're hostile to everything it doesn't really matter if they lock onto the Dragonborn or just some rabbit. The problem is because they can fly they have to have a much larger detection radius (this is why they can detect you if you try to sneak below them while they're flying) than most other actors in the game. Except it doesn't always work right, meaning they can't lock onto a target so they register that there isn't one by mistake and then take off.

This can be fixed by either attacking the dragon or, if the dragon is near a large structure like a mountain, by trying to get to higher ground and thus close enough for the dragon to detect you properly.

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really no.

Ulfric is an established racist who only cares about non-Nords when it benefits him.

You're living in clown world if you think otherwise.

its not a bug. It was designed as a random encounter. Its called dragon flight. Those dragons will not attack unless provoked

Valrifell wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really no.

What did you think the phrase "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" was about? Pumpkins?

Well,I wonder what kind of government Ulfric would have established,probably an ultra-nationalist military junta.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Ulfric is a racist xenophobic bigot and perhaps the Nords need to look in a mirror.

Not really no.

Yes really.

San Lumen wrote:

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:They're a people forced out of their homes, having their children and families massacred by rich Nordic landowners that want to exploit their lands for their own financial gain while they get forced into the dregs of society of their own land.

They're fighting a war against their oppressors who have more wealth, more manpower, and better equipment than them, of course they'll resort to extreme measures lol.

are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

Skyrim for the Forsworn!

Heloin wrote:

San Lumen wrote:are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

Skyrim for the Forsworn!

Forsworn for the Skyrim!

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:

San Lumen wrote:are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

The Reachmen were in talks with the Empire following the Great War about letting the Reachmen rule the Reach while staying a part of the Empire - their rule of the Reach during that time being noted as a peaceful time and with them only actually going after the most particularly gruesome of Nordic landowners from before.

Then in come Ulfric and his militia, slaughtering innocents, including children, left and right. The Empire does nothing. The rich Nord landowners go back to their shtick. The Reachmen are made second class inhabitants, below all other people living there, once again.

If anyone, the Nords have made it very clear, over the centuries, that they really don't care for any 'settlements' or peace between their peoples - and it's the direct reason that the measures they're resorting to are as extreme as they are. They've been in this situation, and almost always on the backfoot, since the First Era.

Exactly. The Forsworn, while their killings are not justified, do have good reason to be angry and to see going to these extremes as their only option.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

Heloin wrote:Skyrim for the Forsworn!

Forsworn for the Skyrim!

I'm still disappointed that you get one quest with the Forsworn then there's nothing else I can do to help them, or at least have them stop attacking me.

Heloin wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Forsworn for the Skyrim!

I'm still disappointed that you get one quest with the Forsworn then there's nothing else I can do to help them, or at least have them stop attacking me.

Because Bethesda has lazy writers

San Lumen wrote:

Heloin wrote:I'm still disappointed that you get one quest with the Forsworn then there's nothing else I can do to help them, or at least have them stop attacking me.

Because Bethesda has lazy writers

You want to help these fucking Nazis? Or sell your soul to multiple evil god like things?

Not really no. Hey can I support this rebellion in the hills against the Racists?

No that'd be stupid, who'd ever want to do that?