The Skyrim/Elder Scrolls thread

[San Lumen]

What do you have against mages?

I don’t think they have anything against mages. It’s just stupid you have to join them in order to access an amulet needed for a totally separate quest, and they can’t leave quest lines unfinished.

That is one of my favorite quest lines. When i adopt kids I tell Constance im the Arch Mage.

[Atheris]

I don’t think they have anything against mages. It’s just stupid you have to join them in order to access an amulet needed for a totally separate quest, and they can’t leave quest lines unfinished.

That is one of my favorite quest lines. When i adopt kids I tell Constance im the Arch Mage.

I never liked the College of Winterhold questline. I prefer the Thieves Guild's a lot more.

[San Lumen]

That is one of my favorite quest lines. When i adopt kids I tell Constance im the Arch Mage.

I never liked the College of Winterhold questline. I prefer the Thieves Guild's a lot more.

I enjoyed that one as well but it's very long and requires a great deal of work to fully restore the ragged flagon

[Atheris]

I never liked the College of Winterhold questline. I prefer the Thieves Guild's a lot more.

I enjoyed that one as well but it's very long and requires a great deal of work to fully restore the ragged flagon

Eh, good point.

On my main thief save I actually picked up the Bust of the Gray Fox and now I can't put it back to where it's supposed to be and it really ticks me off.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Apparently using healing spells near Talsgar turns him hostile. Well Skyrim has one less bard.

[Ism]

This isn't hatred, this is fury. I don't think I have enough heat in my body to manifest such pure, raw anger to do something so single-mindedly spite-driven. Wolves are but a nuisance for me; not something worthy of my time or attention.

Now bears on the other hand, holy fuck. I totally get it, Temba. I really do.

Don't get me started on Sabercats. Doing a dark brotherhood build on my Switch and I nearly died from a Sabercat trying to get to Montierre. I'm level 8.

As someone who usually explores Skyrim in its entirety at the start of every new character, I have run into sabercats at level 2. The only advice I can really give for beating them at low levels is to get on a rock they can't easily follow you onto, throw magic/arrows at tbem, and when they run off jump down from the rock. Rinse and repeat until dead. Also, be careful, as there's often two of them.

I feel like im the only person who struggles with magic in skyrim. even when leveling magicka up i feel like i never have enough and my damage is always low. I never cared for magic in most fantasy universes but i also dont like being bad with it when its a free option.

How do i mage?

Everyone else gave good advice on leveling skills and outfitting yourself, but you should know that destruction magic caps out lower than enchanted weapons do damage wise. And that's without abusing the crafting system. Magic is strong enough get you through the game, though characters with magic resistance will be a bitch to fight. If you're used to really powerful enchanted weapons though, you are going to feel weak.

[The Imperial Reach]

Kind of bullshit to get my magical amulet I have to join the Mage's College (to get access to Sarthaal). I just wanted +30 to all my stats but now I have to work with some fucking nerds to get it.

And of course I can't leave a questline half completed so I now I have to end up as the head of the Mage's College.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

[The Islands of Versilia]

Kind of bullshit to get my magical amulet I have to join the Mage's College (to get access to Sarthaal). I just wanted +30 to all my stats but now I have to work with some fucking nerds to get it.

And of course I can't leave a questline half completed so I now I have to end up as the head of the Mage's College.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

Can you not kill the Forsworn when they’re in their hideout?

[North German Realm]

Kind of bullshit to get my magical amulet I have to join the Mage's College (to get access to Sarthaal). I just wanted +30 to all my stats but now I have to work with some fucking nerds to get it.

And of course I can't leave a questline half completed so I now I have to end up as the head of the Mage's College.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

Wait I thought that was possible.

[Ism]

Kind of bullshit to get my magical amulet I have to join the Mage's College (to get access to Sarthaal). I just wanted +30 to all my stats but now I have to work with some fucking nerds to get it.

And of course I can't leave a questline half completed so I now I have to end up as the head of the Mage's College.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

It is an annoyingly common occurrence in Skyrim. Though you can just kill Silver-Blood after he gives you the ring and the quest ends. Nothing really changes though.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Oh my god the damn stones. One of the first mods i ever downloaded was a quest marker mod for those damn things. And i still dont think i ever completed that quest.

[The Imperial Reach]

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

Can you not kill the Forsworn when they’re in their hideout?

I mean you could but they'll still massacre a bunch of people in Markarth before they can escape.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

Wait I thought that was possible.

I don't even start the Gauldur questline anymore unless I'm doing a character that uses magic. It's so bullshit you have to join the College just to get into Saarthal. I don't see why they couldn't have just shoved the Eye of Magnus bullshit into an entirely different section of the ruins so you can still get the Gauldur amulet.

Also kinda bullshit how you can't just sell those Stones of Barenziah to Vex right away without having to join the Thieves Guild. You'd think she'd fucking take them regardless of whose peddling them, but no, gotta be a Thief. I have to be careful not to pick them up unless I'm doing a Thief run.

While not an entirely identical problem, I find the Forsworn Conspiracy/No One Escape Cidhna Mine quest(s) to really force the player into a corner. You can either side with the Forsworn, savage Daedra worshiping killers, or you can side with the Silver-Bloods, corrupt bastards that use the Forsworn to ruthlessly take over the Reach and make the Black-Briars look like schoolyard bullies. It's hard to pick between bloodthirsty Daedra-worshipers and what is essentially the Nord Mafia aligned with the Stormcloaks when you're trying to be a loyal citizen of the Empire. I wish I could just gut both Madanach and Thonar to spite both the fuckers as they're pretty much equal levels of evil and despicable.

It is an annoyingly common occurrence in Skyrim. Though you can just kill Silver-Blood after he gives you the ring and the quest ends. Nothing really changes though.

Oof, didn't know that. I figured if you killed Madanach then Thonar wouldn't lose his essential status as that only leaves his method of completing the quest.

Guess that makes sense, though.

Oh my god the damn stones. One of the first mods i ever downloaded was a quest marker mod for those damn things. And i still dont think i ever completed that quest.

There's a mod where you can just sell them and/or buy them back to the Khajiit caravans IIRC. Good for people who want to pick them up without joining the Thieves Guild.

[Valrifell]

Kind of bullshit to get my magical amulet I have to join the Mage's College (to get access to Sarthaal). I just wanted +30 to all my stats but now I have to work with some fucking nerds to get it.

And of course I can't leave a questline half completed so I now I have to end up as the head of the Mage's College.

What do you have against mages?

I was playing this character as a himbo ruthless merc who smashy before thinky. Joining the Mage's college is against that MO.

Like, the Thalmor Embassy mission is textually a stealth mission. I, instead, killed every single High Elf in sight.

[San Lumen]

What do you have against mages?

I was playing this character as a himbo ruthless merc who smashy before thinky. Joining the Mage's college is against that MO.

Like, the Thalmor Embassy mission is textually a stealth mission. I, instead, killed every single High Elf in sight.

They deserve it quite frankly. The Thalmor are awful

[The Islands of Versilia]

What do you have against mages?

I was playing this character as a himbo ruthless merc who smashy before thinky. Joining the Mage's college is against that MO.

Like, the Thalmor Embassy mission is textually a stealth mission. I, instead, killed every single High Elf in sight.

Wait you can sneak past them?

[Valrifell]

I was playing this character as a himbo ruthless merc who smashy before thinky. Joining the Mage's college is against that MO.

Like, the Thalmor Embassy mission is textually a stealth mission. I, instead, killed every single High Elf in sight.

Wait you can sneak past them?

This was a bad example.

[The Islands of Versilia]

Wait you can sneak past them?

This was a bad example.

I’ve not once snuck past the Thalmor. I only recently learnt you can spare the informat in the last building who later shows up in the Ragged Flaggon.

[The Huskar Social Union]

My usual approach to stealth is:

Ill be as stealthy as possible, but if im caught then:



Time for heads to roll.

[The New California Republic]

My usual approach to stealth is:

Ill be as stealthy as possible, but if im caught then:

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Time for heads to roll.

To be fair the stealth system in ER/Fallout games is generally janky as fuck anyway, so one can be forgiven if the enemy several meters away somehow catches you when you are staying perfectly still and hidden behind objects.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I’ve never gotten Skyrim stealth to work right without invisibility and muffle.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rip Edda the riften begger. Got attacked by a random wizard challenger who lightening bolted her in the face during the crossfire.

[The New California Republic]

I’ve never gotten Skyrim stealth to work right without invisibility and muffle.

Tbh it's the same with Fallout tbh, the only way to make stealth work reliably is by having a pile of Stealth Boys in your inventory, and wearing the lightest armor in the game (or even being naked).

Unfortunately Stealth Boys are not a staple of ES games, so not really an option.

[The New California Republic]

Rip Edda the riften begger. Got attacked by a random wizard challenger who lightening bolted her in the face during the crossfire.

I get major schadenfreude when I see randoms get killed during fights that have nothing to do with them.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Rip Edda the riften begger. Got attacked by a random wizard challenger who lightening bolted her in the face during the crossfire.

I get major schadenfreude when I see randoms get killed during fights that have nothing to do with them.

I hate it when it happens to vendors though.

Especially with those damn Dawnguard added vampire attacks.

[The New California Republic]

I get major schadenfreude when I see randoms get killed during fights that have nothing to do with them.

I hate it when it happens to vendors though.

Especially with those damn Dawnguard added vampire attacks.

Yes if it happens to someone that is needed then absolutely. But generally I just laugh.