just from the hold itself.
Whiterun is way too nice-looking to be a starter town for real.
I guess it just looks nice but daaaaaamn. Almost as epic looking as Ulfric's hold.
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by The Rich Port » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:08 am
by The first Galactic Republic » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:57 am
Dresderstan wrote:Why is it all the jarls, sans Elisef sit like they're slouching, it makes them all seem like smug superior bastards?
by Dresderstan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:00 am
by The first Galactic Republic » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:33 pm
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by The Imperial Reach » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:47 pm
by The Rich Port » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:59 pm
by The Imperial Reach » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:25 pm
The Rich Port wrote:By the way, IMO, the Creation Club versions of Frostfall are shit.
Survival mode for example is not modifiable. You get survival mode but with not only a shitty, arbitrary loss of equipment encumbrance, but also with no fast travel, which, to be fair, I prefer to walk, but sometimes there's literally nothing to do but walk, especially when I've carved a bloody trail to walk to where I wanted to go. This wouldn't be a problem if you could just change it, which you can't.
Instead, download Frostfall, Frostfall Camping, and iNeed for the best survival experience IMO.
by The Rich Port » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:26 pm
The Imperial Reach wrote:The Rich Port wrote:By the way, IMO, the Creation Club versions of Frostfall are shit.
Survival mode for example is not modifiable. You get survival mode but with not only a shitty, arbitrary loss of equipment encumbrance, but also with no fast travel, which, to be fair, I prefer to walk, but sometimes there's literally nothing to do but walk, especially when I've carved a bloody trail to walk to where I wanted to go. This wouldn't be a problem if you could just change it, which you can't.
Instead, download Frostfall, Frostfall Camping, and iNeed for the best survival experience IMO.
Paying for mods is like paying for porn.
Only chumps do it.
by New haven america » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:38 pm
The Imperial Reach wrote:New haven america wrote:1. Yes?
2. ... Have you ever actually played Fallout 3? Because if so I have no idea how you missed out on the negative karma decisions in the game. Also, Fallout 2 exists.
3. I've literally never experienced that in either Skyrim or FO3, so... what games are you playing? Seriously, I've only experienced 1 bug in Skyrim and that's on the 360 version.
1. Fallout 3's karma system was so explicitly biased and black and white. Bad example.
2. I don't know how you've never had more than one bug with Skyrim considering how notorious it is for bugs. What game am I playing? Skyrim - a game famous for it's bugs. The question is what are you playing?Impaled Nazarene wrote:Oh man wait till you hear about Fallout 2.
3. The difference being Bethesda sacrificed quality writing for the sake of endless violence whereas Black Isle/Interplay didn't.
by The Imperial Reach » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:33 pm
New haven america wrote:1. Nah, it's about the same of NV's.
2. Well obviously you're not if you're getting bugs everywhere while I've had a very smooth experience with the game.
3. Wait wait wait. First you complain that FO3 is trash because the writing is too comedic, then when you get presented with an example of a comedic FO game not made by Bethesda, now you're complaining that FO3 is trash because it's too violent? (Even though FO 1, 2, and NV are all equally as violent) This is called moving the goalpost, pick one complaint and stick with it.
by New haven america » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:38 pm
The Imperial Reach wrote:New haven america wrote:1. Nah, it's about the same of NV's.
1. No, it isn't. It's hamfisted into everything you do in FO3. You can't do anything with invoking some kind of karmic response of some kind. The worst being you get negative karma from killing Brotherhood members, forcing the notion that the BoS are good guys which they have never been nor were they ever intended to be - something Todd forgot in his BoS fanboyism. In New Vegas you only get negative karma if you blow up the bunker or kill specific Brotherhood members.2. Well obviously you're not if you're getting bugs everywhere while I've had a very smooth experience with the game.
2. Bro. Every fucking person here will tell you Skyrim is riddled with bugs. If you aren't encountering any, that can only mean that either you're playing a version that was released later on when they got off their asses and ironed out the bugs, you haven't played much Skyrim at all, or you're just lying for reasons only you could know.
So which is it?3. Wait wait wait. First you complain that FO3 is trash because the writing is too comedic, then when you get presented with an example of a comedic FO game not made by Bethesda, now you're complaining that FO3 is trash because it's too violent? (Even though FO 1, 2, and NV are all equally as violent) This is called moving the goalpost, pick one complaint and stick with it.
Nice misdirection.
3. Too bad I never mentioned comedy or too much violence and it is in fact you who is moving the goalposts. By "immature" I meant "immature" - as in, "not mature" - not "comedic". I'm sorry if that confused you because it seemed pretty straight-forward.
My problem with Bethesda's shitty Fallout titles isn't that they're violent, it's that they're centered around violence with little room for anything else. There are very options in any of said games (or Skyrim, for that matter) that don't end in someone or something's death. That's not even mentioning how often they throw random encounters where something or someone tries to attack you at you every time you walk 4 feet in any direction, or how obvious it is that most of their gameplay efforts are placed on combat.
The single advantage Skyrim has over it's predecessors is an improved combat system, and the same can be said for Fallout 4. Bethesda doesn't make RPGs like Oblivion anymore; they make fighting games with RPG elements. The problem isn't that Fallout 3 was too violent, it's that it was centered around combat and wrapped in lousy writing. The same is true for Skyrim. I don't mind fighting and killing whole armies, but I don't want to fight a pack of wolves every time I travel 2 miles or have to end a quest by killing someone when I have no reason to do be doing so.
I'd rather have a shitty combat system with good writing (Oblivion) than good combat system with shitty writing (Skyrim). I play games for the story, not the slaughter. If I want to massacre folks I'll play a damn shooter.
by San Lumen » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:03 pm
by Atheris » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:43 pm
The Rich Port wrote:By the way, IMO, the Creation Club versions of Frostfall are shit.
Survival mode for example is not modifiable. You get survival mode but with not only a shitty, arbitrary loss of equipment encumbrance, but also with no fast travel, which, to be fair, I prefer to walk, but sometimes there's literally nothing to do but walk, especially when I've carved a bloody trail to walk to where I wanted to go. This wouldn't be a problem if you could just change it, which you can't.
Instead, download Frostfall, Frostfall Camping, and iNeed for the best survival experience IMO.
by Cadonica » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 am
by The Blaatschapen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:55 am
by Nevertopia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:12 am
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:18 am
Nevertopia wrote:I hate how Bethesda keeps re-releasing skyrim ports on different avenues. I can only marry Brelyna and fus-roh-dah Lydia off a cliff so many times.
by Nevertopia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:31 am
Valrifell wrote:Nevertopia wrote:I hate how Bethesda keeps re-releasing skyrim ports on different avenues. I can only marry Brelyna and fus-roh-dah Lydia off a cliff so many times.
But have you done it from your Amazon Alexa?
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:45 am
Valrifell wrote:Nevertopia wrote:I hate how Bethesda keeps re-releasing skyrim ports on different avenues. I can only marry Brelyna and fus-roh-dah Lydia off a cliff so many times.
But have you done it from your Amazon Alexa?
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:57 am
by Nevertopia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:03 am
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by The Islands of Versilia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:20 am
Nevertopia wrote:personally i cant wait for the new openworld skyrim-like game from the obsidian franchise. It looks sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QkO8fy3tg
by Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:39 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, I got it as a gift for 360, and kind of played that as a continuation of my Oblivion character for a while, before realizing magic was totally different.
Then I later bought it for PC and was given Skyrim special edition for free because I had it for PC.
As far as unintentional bugged encounters go, I can't really think of any. Closest would probably be the time I discovered rune spells can detonate on Draugr BEFORE their casket opens causing them to get blasted into the ether half the time.
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