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What is your favorite Skyrim hold?

Whiterun
78
25%
Hjaalmarch (Morthal)
10
3%
Falkreath
31
10%
The Pale (Dawnstar)
8
3%
The Reach (Markarth)
42
14%
Haafingar (Solitude)
47
15%
Eastmarch (Windhelm)
19
6%
Winterhold
20
6%
The Rift (Riften)
55
18%
 
Total votes : 310

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:13 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I always kill Madanach. The Forsworn are savage barbarians clinging to old ways that no longer exist.

Ok now you're just fucking with us Mr. Dragons Did Nothing Wrong

Tell me why Madanach shouldn't be killed

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Ok now you're just fucking with us Mr. Dragons Did Nothing Wrong

Tell me why Madanach shouldn't be killed

Tell us why the Dragons shouldn't be killed
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:20 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Tell me why Madanach shouldn't be killed

Tell us why the Dragons shouldn't be killed

Not all dragons are evil in my view. We went over this. I dont believe in ex post facto or making assumptions about any species

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Tell us why the Dragons shouldn't be killed

Not all dragons are evil in my view. We went over this. I dont believe in ex post facto or making assumptions about any species

So your willing to give dragons a pass (despite the fact it is in their nature to kill and pillage) but not the Forsworn?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 am

Andsed wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not all dragons are evil in my view. We went over this. I dont believe in ex post facto or making assumptions about any species

So your willing to give dragons a pass (despite the fact it is in their nature to kill and pillage) but not the Forsworn?


Yes. The Forsworn savagely attack anyone who so much as walks by them and cling to ideas that have long since vanished. The heck with them

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:40 am

Andsed wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not all dragons are evil in my view. We went over this. I dont believe in ex post facto or making assumptions about any species

So your willing to give dragons a pass (despite the fact it is in their nature to kill and pillage) but not the Forsworn?

Tbh after the Empire destroys the Stormcloaks I wanted them to go on a grand campaign against the likes of the Falmer and Forsworn to wipe them all out.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:44 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:So your willing to give dragons a pass (despite the fact it is in their nature to kill and pillage) but not the Forsworn?


Yes. The Forsworn savagely attack anyone who so much as walks by them and cling to ideas that have long since vanished. The heck with them

And dragons do the exact same thing. The only difference is unlike the Forsworn(who, while it does not justify their action, were pushed into being such extremists) dragons do it for no other reason than it is literally in their nature.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:44 am

Andsed wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yes. The Forsworn savagely attack anyone who so much as walks by them and cling to ideas that have long since vanished. The heck with them

And dragons do the exact the same thing. The only difference is unlike the Forsworn(who, while it does not justify their action, were pushed into being such extremists) dragons do it for no other reason than it is literally in their nature.

No they do not. Some don't attack and simply fly away. I do not consider those dragons hostile and let them live.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:47 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:And dragons do the exact the same thing. The only difference is unlike the Forsworn(who, while it does not justify their action, were pushed into being such extremists) dragons do it for no other reason than it is literally in their nature.

No they do not. Some don't attack and simply fly away. I do not consider those dragons hostile and let them live.

Those ones that flew away have 9.9/10 murdered random innocent people. The dragons are no better than Forsworn(arguably they are worse.) So if you willing to spare them why not the Forsworn?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:47 am

Andsed wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they do not. Some don't attack and simply fly away. I do not consider those dragons hostile and let them live.

Those ones that flew away have 9.9/10 murdered random innocent people. The dragons are no better than Forsworn(arguably they are worse.) So if you willing to spare them why not the Forsworn?

You dont know that.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:49 am

We shouldnt murder dragons, some of them are just misunderstood!

What about the Forsworn?

Barbaric cunts that need to be wiped out, drown the reach in their blood!
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:50 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:We shouldnt murder dragons, some of them are just misunderstood!

What about the Forsworn?

Barbaric cunts that need to be wiped out, drown the reach in their blood!

They are barbaric

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:We shouldnt murder dragons, some of them are just misunderstood!

What about the Forsworn?

Barbaric cunts that need to be wiped out, drown the reach in their blood!

They are barbaric

So are dragons
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:Those ones that flew away have 9.9/10 murdered random innocent people. The dragons are no better than Forsworn(arguably they are worse.) So if you willing to spare them why not the Forsworn?

You dont know that.

We literally fucking do. Dragons murder and pillage all the damm time. They are quite literally inherently violent. So why are they more deserving of mercy then the Forsworn?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:51 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:They are barbaric

So are dragons


No. You don't attack me I don;'t attack you. I consider those dragons that simply fly off to be peaceful.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:And dragons do the exact the same thing. The only difference is unlike the Forsworn(who, while it does not justify their action, were pushed into being such extremists) dragons do it for no other reason than it is literally in their nature.

No they do not. Some don't attack and simply fly away. I do not consider those dragons hostile and let them live.

I'm sure they were serving tea and crumpets to the local homeless and kissing babies just before they left. Uh huh. Sure.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So are dragons


No. You don't attack me I don;'t attack you. I consider those dragons that simply fly off to be peaceful.

Which is a very naive thing to think.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:53 am

The New California Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they do not. Some don't attack and simply fly away. I do not consider those dragons hostile and let them live.

I'm sure they were serving tea and crumpets to the local homeless and kissing babies just before they left. Uh huh. Sure.


Or maybe they decided I don't feel like burning the village

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:54 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So are dragons


No. You don't attack me I don;'t attack you. I consider those dragons that simply fly off to be peaceful.

Yeah and after doing the forsworn conspiracy a group of forsworn wont attack you on sight. I consider those forsworn to be peaceful.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:55 am

San Lumen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I'm sure they were serving tea and crumpets to the local homeless and kissing babies just before they left. Uh huh. Sure.


Or maybe they decided I don't feel like burning the village

If dragons were not inherently dominating and violent then maybe that would be believable. But seeing as they are it is foolish to trust them (this was literally said by paarthurnax.) I agree with the idea that not all dragons should be killed, but it is very dumb to claim all the Forsworn deserve to die while being willing to spare dragons.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I'm sure they were serving tea and crumpets to the local homeless and kissing babies just before they left. Uh huh. Sure.


Or maybe they decided I don't feel like burning the village

Because they just had their fill on some peasants out in the countryside
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Or maybe they decided I don't feel like burning the village

Because they just had their fill on some peasants out in the countryside

Thats one instance

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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:02 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:We shouldnt murder dragons, some of them are just misunderstood!

What about the Forsworn?

Barbaric cunts that need to be wiped out, drown the reach in their blood!

They are barbaric

They're a people forced out of their homes, having their children and families massacred by rich Nordic landowners that want to exploit their lands for their own financial gain while they get forced into the dregs of society of their own land.

They're fighting a war against their oppressors who have more wealth, more manpower, and better equipment than them, of course they'll resort to extreme measures lol.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:04 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:
San Lumen wrote:They are barbaric

They're a people forced out of their homes, having their children and families massacred by rich Nordic landowners that want to exploit their lands for their own financial gain while they get forced into the dregs of society of their own land.

They're fighting a war against their oppressors who have more wealth, more manpower, and better equipment than them, of course they'll resort to extreme measures lol.

are both sides at fault? yes. Maybe they could reach out to them and work out some kind of settlement?

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:05 am


Out of many. Dragons do that kinda shit all the time and unlike the Forsworn who were pushed to extremes(which I am not saying excuses or justifys their acts, just stating a fact) they do it because it is literally in their nature. So how are dragons better than the Forsworn?
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