The Skyrim/Elder Scrolls thread

[The Huskar Social Union]

Im still confuzzled about why the Stormcloaks never got a set of heavy armour. Its just weird.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Im still confuzzled about why the Stormcloaks never got a set of heavy armour. Its just weird.

because Todd decided Aesthetic > logic. Also the devs probably thought that the two-handed weapons of the stormcloaks would make the two factions equal

[The Islands of Versilia]

Weren’t Norsemen historically quite well-armoured? At least, wasn’t it not uncommon for Norse warriors to be armoured to the point where they’d be considered to be wearing Heavy Armour by TES standards?

I think if the Stormcloaks had armour distribution like that, it would be better. Imperials having a higher Heavy to Light ratio, while the opposite being true for Stormcloaks.

[The Imperial Reach]

Weren’t Norsemen historically quite well-armoured? At least, wasn’t it not uncommon for Norse warriors to be armoured to the point where they’d be considered to be wearing Heavy Armour by TES standards?

I think if the Stormcloaks had armour distribution like that, it would be better. Imperials having a higher Heavy to Light ratio, while the opposite being true for Stormcloaks.

I don't know about that, but the Norse didn't really differentiate much from the rest of Europe in terms of armor. They wore the same tunics, leather, and chainmail like all the rest just with the occasional fur.

I would've liked to see more Heavy Armor Imperials, though. The only ones in the game are either Legates or Hadvar.

[The Islands of Versilia]

Weren’t Norsemen historically quite well-armoured? At least, wasn’t it not uncommon for Norse warriors to be armoured to the point where they’d be considered to be wearing Heavy Armour by TES standards?

I think if the Stormcloaks had armour distribution like that, it would be better. Imperials having a higher Heavy to Light ratio, while the opposite being true for Stormcloaks.

I don't know about that, but the Norse didn't really differentiate much from the rest of Europe in terms of armor. They wore the same tunics, leather, and chainmail like all the rest just with the occasional fur.

I would've liked to see more Heavy Armor Imperials, though. The only ones in the game are either Legates or Hadvar.

Agreed. All the legionaries seem vastly under protected. Thankfully there’s mods that change that IIRC.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I don't know about that, but the Norse didn't really differentiate much from the rest of Europe in terms of armor. They wore the same tunics, leather, and chainmail like all the rest just with the occasional fur.

I would've liked to see more Heavy Armor Imperials, though. The only ones in the game are either Legates or Hadvar.

Agreed. All the legionaries seem vastly under protected. Thankfully there’s mods that change that IIRC.

go for the legs

[The first Galactic Republic]

TIL Thalmor patrols aren’t automatically hostile to Vampire Lords. They just gave me the standard go away warning.

How incredibly ironic. Maybe they’re big on Daedra.

[Ism]

Agreed. All the legionaries seem vastly under protected. Thankfully there’s mods that change that IIRC.

go for the legs

Now now, we wouldn't want them feeling aggrieved would we?

No, I will not show myself out, I'm actually proud of this one.

[Impaled Nazarene]

For fucks sake Skyrim stop putting random quests from the mainland on Solstheim ESPECIALLY if you haven't visited it yet. I don't want to go there until after I "finish" Dawnguard.

[The Islands of Versilia]

For fucks sake Skyrim stop putting random quests from the mainland on Solstheim ESPECIALLY if you haven't visited it yet. I don't want to go there until after I "finish" Dawnguard.

Oh my god, I hate that. I’ve only recently finished Dawnguard (yesterday) so only now do I have the opportunity to get that advanced crossbow schematic from Damphell mine.

[The Imperial Reach]

TIL Thalmor patrols aren’t automatically hostile to Vampire Lords. They just gave me the standard go away warning.

How incredibly ironic. Maybe they’re big on Daedra.

IIRC the plot of Legends is that the Thalmor are trying to sacrifice the Imperial City to the Daedra.

[San Lumen]

For fucks sake Skyrim stop putting random quests from the mainland on Solstheim ESPECIALLY if you haven't visited it yet. I don't want to go there until after I "finish" Dawnguard.

I hate that as well

[The Huskar Social Union]

For fucks sake Skyrim stop putting random quests from the mainland on Solstheim ESPECIALLY if you haven't visited it yet. I don't want to go there until after I "finish" Dawnguard.

Ive managed to not get a single instance like that in my current run.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

TIL Thalmor patrols aren’t automatically hostile to Vampire Lords. They just gave me the standard go away warning.

How incredibly ironic. Maybe they’re big on Daedra.

IIRC the plot of Legends is that the Thalmor are trying to sacrifice the Imperial City to the Daedra.

According to a storyteller, who describes him as a rogue.

The Thalmor definitely aren't big on Daedra - they're mostly strongly traditionalist and the Altmer absolutely hate the Daedra and it's one of the things that allowed them to seize power in Summerset.

[San Lumen]

For fucks sake Skyrim stop putting random quests from the mainland on Solstheim ESPECIALLY if you haven't visited it yet. I don't want to go there until after I "finish" Dawnguard.

Ive managed to not get a single instance like that in my current run.

Ive gotten it from the the enchanter at the College.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So the Argonians invaded Oblivion and beat back the Daedra themselves during the Oblivion Crisis.


And somehow they managed to not be anywhere even remotely close to that level of cool in any of the games.

[Ism]

So the Argonians invaded Oblivion and beat back the Daedra themselves during the Oblivion Crisis.


And somehow they managed to not be anywhere even remotely close to that level of cool in any of the games.

This insult will not be forgotten Huskar.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So the Argonians invaded Oblivion and beat back the Daedra themselves during the Oblivion Crisis.


And somehow they managed to not be anywhere even remotely close to that level of cool in any of the games.

This insult will not be forgotten Huskar.

Good.

[The Islands of Versilia]

So the Argonians invaded Oblivion and beat back the Daedra themselves during the Oblivion Crisis.


And somehow they managed to not be anywhere even remotely close to that level of cool in any of the games.

The Hist were directly threatened, so obviously that would be the case. The Hist have no need to super-power the lizardfolk otherwise.

[The Imperial Reach]

Sky Haven Temple is so... disappointing.

It's just this old, dark place with pretty much nothing. Even after the Blades move back in it's still so empty. There's pretty much no reason to go there after the MQ unless you're trying to get that dragonslayer's blessing from Esbern. It hardly gets any kind of renovation, is still mostly dark as fuck, lived in bye 2-5 people at most, and there are literally Forsworn camped right outside the front door which just makes me wonder how the fuck do the Blades get out into the world without being knee-deep in Reachmen and - more importantly - what's keeping the Forsworn from just overrunning the whole place?

There's nothing there at all besides beds. Not a forge or the associated smithing stations, no arcane enchanter or alchemy station, nothing. I swear Bethesda just up and forgot about the Blades half-way through the game and so just gave them squat. You get cool equipment, a neat enchanted sword, and a neat little temporary effect to fighting dragons and that's it. Nothing else. Aren't these guys supposed to be taking the fight to the Thalmor and the Dragons? They don't have much going for them though, so how are they supposed to do that? Fighting dragons would be the easy part, but they'd have to have lots of friends and connections to the take the fight to the Thalmor covertly.

You literally do more to rebuild the Thieves Guild than you do the Blades. I would've loved to be able to restore them to their pre-Great War glory, but nope. Like so many things in Skyrim left it half-finished. Of the joinable factions in Skyrim's base game, the only ones that seem to have any significant amount of time and energy spent on their quality appear to be the Dark Brotherhood, the College of Winterhold, and the Thieves Guild.

[Valrifell]

Sky Haven Temple is so... disappointing.

It's just this old, dark place with pretty much nothing. Even after the Blades move back in it's still so empty. There's pretty much no reason to go there after the MQ unless you're trying to get that dragonslayer's blessing from Esbern. It hardly gets any kind of renovation, is still mostly dark as fuck, lived in bye 2-5 people at most, and there are literally Forsworn camped right outside the front door which just makes me wonder how the fuck do the Blades get out into the world without being knee-deep in Reachmen and - more importantly - what's keeping the Forsworn from just overrunning the whole place?

There's nothing there at all besides beds. Not a forge or the associated smithing stations, no arcane enchanter or alchemy station, nothing. I swear Bethesda just up and forgot about the Blades half-way through the game and so just gave them squat. You get cool equipment, a neat enchanted sword, and a neat little temporary effect to fighting dragons and that's it. Nothing else. Aren't these guys supposed to be taking the fight to the Thalmor and the Dragons? They don't have much going for them though, so how are they supposed to do that? Fighting dragons would be the easy part, but they'd have to have lots of friends and connections to the take the fight to the Thalmor covertly.

You literally do more to rebuild the Thieves Guild than you do the Blades. I would've loved to be able to restore them to their pre-Great War glory, but nope. Like so many things in Skyrim left it half-finished. Of the joinable factions in Skyrim's base game, the only ones that seem to have any significant amount of time and energy spent on their quality appear to be the Dark Brotherhood, the College of Winterhold, and the Thieves Guild.

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I disagree, the College quest just kind of... ends, very abruptly. In-game you go from an Apprentice to the fucking Archmage in like a week, max.

[Impaled Nazarene]

So the Argonians invaded Oblivion and beat back the Daedra themselves during the Oblivion Crisis.


And somehow they managed to not be anywhere even remotely close to that level of cool in any of the games.

The An-xileel would be terrifying villains if Bethesda cared about anything other than Elves v Humans

[The Imperial Reach]

Sky Haven Temple is so... disappointing.

It's just this old, dark place with pretty much nothing. Even after the Blades move back in it's still so empty. There's pretty much no reason to go there after the MQ unless you're trying to get that dragonslayer's blessing from Esbern. It hardly gets any kind of renovation, is still mostly dark as fuck, lived in bye 2-5 people at most, and there are literally Forsworn camped right outside the front door which just makes me wonder how the fuck do the Blades get out into the world without being knee-deep in Reachmen and - more importantly - what's keeping the Forsworn from just overrunning the whole place?

There's nothing there at all besides beds. Not a forge or the associated smithing stations, no arcane enchanter or alchemy station, nothing. I swear Bethesda just up and forgot about the Blades half-way through the game and so just gave them squat. You get cool equipment, a neat enchanted sword, and a neat little temporary effect to fighting dragons and that's it. Nothing else. Aren't these guys supposed to be taking the fight to the Thalmor and the Dragons? They don't have much going for them though, so how are they supposed to do that? Fighting dragons would be the easy part, but they'd have to have lots of friends and connections to the take the fight to the Thalmor covertly.

You literally do more to rebuild the Thieves Guild than you do the Blades. I would've loved to be able to restore them to their pre-Great War glory, but nope. Like so many things in Skyrim left it half-finished. Of the joinable factions in Skyrim's base game, the only ones that seem to have any significant amount of time and energy spent on their quality appear to be the Dark Brotherhood, the College of Winterhold, and the Thieves Guild.

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I disagree, the College quest just kind of... ends, very abruptly. In-game you go from an Apprentice to the fucking Archmage in like a week, max.

I didn't say it was perfect, I said it had superior quality to most other factions in the game. It is of course absurd that the player becomes the leader of every faction within a week tops, but that's a problem with every major faction. Even the Civil War factions have the player jumping the ranks after a single battle. It's a bit ridiculous.

[Impaled Nazarene]

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I disagree, the College quest just kind of... ends, very abruptly. In-game you go from an Apprentice to the fucking Archmage in like a week, max.

I didn't say it was perfect, I said it had superior quality to most other factions in the game. It is of course absurd that the player becomes the leader of every faction within a week tops, but that's a problem with every major faction. Even the Civil War factions have the player jumping the ranks after a single battle. It's a bit ridiculous.

Funny enough it makes sense for the civil war factions to promote the player so much so fast

Empire: Led by Not-Julius-Caesar and are trying to win a propaganda war and having the Dragonborn as a high ranking soldier would do wonders for that campaign. Also nepotism is a feature of any empire. The dragonborn has no power when in the army so I don't think that anyone recognizes their authority aside from the grunts who respect them for being a good warrior.

Stormcloaks: Are an army ran by egomaniac with an even worse brute as his second in command. Their equipment is trash, their organization is severely lacking, etc etc. They probably see the Dragonborn killing a handful of imperial soldiers with minimal effort and immediately shat their collective stormcloaks. It also fits with the quest structure: go there kill things report back, and the occasional espionage.

[The first Galactic Republic]

IIRC the plot of Legends is that the Thalmor are trying to sacrifice the Imperial City to the Daedra.

According to a storyteller, who describes him as a rogue.

The Thalmor definitely aren't big on Daedra - they're mostly strongly traditionalist and the Altmer absolutely hate the Daedra and it's one of the things that allowed them to seize power in Summerset.

My theory is that Naarifin was corrupt and working for his own interests. He captured the Imperial City for his superiors, but all the daedric whatnot was part of his own ambition.

Anyway, it’s still funny to me that the Thalmor, famously intolerant of basically all life in Skyrim, weren’t hostile to my vampire lord on sight.