Metal Genre Music Discussion - Vol. 4

[The Imperial Reach]

In a world where Nazism hasn't been relevant since 1945.

I expect a "but some of these aren't Nazis they're other_fash_label." My point still stands.

Getting attention from being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant. Likewise, being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant either.

Get back to me when they start winning federal elections and have a percentage of nationwide support that's higher than a single digit (I doubt it's even that high) - then they'll be relevant. Not to mention Alt-Right aren't Nazis. Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

[Ameriganastan]

METAL. THIS IS A METAL THREAD. TALK ABOUT METAL. NOT POLITICS.

[Hurdergaryp]

METAL. THIS IS A METAL THREAD. TALK ABOUT METAL. NOT POLITICS.

Because metal as a musical genre is a perfectly neutral form of muzak, right?

[Impaled Nazarene]

Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

Right, because that makes it all better. They're not real nazis so who cares that they support genocide, abhorrent gender roles, death camps, world conquest.

[Hurdergaryp]

Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

Right, because that makes it all better. They're not real nazis so who cares that they support genocide, abhorrent gender roles, death camps, world conquest.

Sounds pretty much like regular nazis to me. I'm starting to wonder if TIR is actually an alt-right goon. Those lads often pretend not to be what they are in order to confuse people with misinformation. You know, softening the crowd for future purposes and the like. We've had nazilovers before in this thread, after all.

[Andsed]

You know I never really understood the appeal of black metal. It just seems like a bunch of people screaming. I honestly don´t see why some like it.

[Ameriganastan]

You know I never really understood the appeal of black metal. It just seems like a bunch of people screaming. I honestly don´t see why some like it.

Finally someone who agrees with me.

[Hurdergaryp]

You know I never really understood the appeal of black metal. It just seems like a bunch of people screaming. I honestly don´t see why some like it.

You probably don't like death metal or grindcore either. As someone who has listened to black metal and the genres I mentioned in the previous sentence for a few decades now, I can tell you it's about atmosphere, focused aggression and the darker side of human nature. Also pounding industrial beats and psychedelic drugs.

[Galborea]

Getting attention from being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant. Likewise, being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant either.

Get back to me when they start winning federal elections and have a percentage of nationwide support that's higher than a single digit (I doubt it's even that high) - then they'll be relevant. Not to mention Alt-Right aren't Nazis. Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

Good fucking god you really are a grifter. This is just sad. Alt-right and Neo-Nazis are still fash and should be bashed.

[Impaled Nazarene]

You know I never really understood the appeal of black metal. It just seems like a bunch of people screaming. I honestly don´t see why some like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5_d7cJRr_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRg8Tg-oM_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuOhBbaY3ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCX4fKYf9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ubctz2ywA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggE3OwlPIYc

And here's some more unique sounding BM bands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78Teqr2T6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEmsi2ucDdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snubqu06ZUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosDDDAmE2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYnstGB3rM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayqdMiOv38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaW0rPCV7Xo

[The Imperial Reach]

Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

Right, because that makes it all better. They're not real nazis so who cares that they support genocide, abhorrent gender roles, death camps, world conquest.

I didn't say that but okay.

Getting attention from being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant. Likewise, being loud, obnoxious, and stupid doesn't make you relevant either.

Get back to me when they start winning federal elections and have a percentage of nationwide support that's higher than a single digit (I doubt it's even that high) - then they'll be relevant. Not to mention Alt-Right aren't Nazis. Hell, even Neo-Nazis aren't proper Nazis. These groups just glorify Nazis out of common ignorance.

Good fucking god you really are a grifter. This is just sad. Alt-right and Neo-Nazis are still fash and should be bashed.

Things that aren't relevant don't need bashing; they need to be ignored.

[Cadonica]

It just seems like a bunch of people screaming.

The whole point and main appeal of it. That and Satan

On a more serious note, basically this:

...I can tell you it's about atmosphere, focused aggression and the darker side of human nature. Also pounding industrial beats and psychedelic drugs.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Right, because that makes it all better. They're not real nazis so who cares that they support genocide, abhorrent gender roles, death camps, world conquest.

I didn't say that but okay.

Good fucking god you really are a grifter. This is just sad. Alt-right and Neo-Nazis are still fash and should be bashed.

Things that aren't relevant don't need bashing; they need to be ignored.

They ignored the real nazis in the 20s and 30s went wonderfully for the whole world just ask William Shirer

[Galborea]

Right, because that makes it all better. They're not real nazis so who cares that they support genocide, abhorrent gender roles, death camps, world conquest.

I didn't say that but okay.

Good fucking god you really are a grifter. This is just sad. Alt-right and Neo-Nazis are still fash and should be bashed.

Things that aren't relevant don't need bashing; they need to be ignored.

We just gave you evidence that this IS relevant and your reaction is "nuh-uh!" In the words of L'Homme Orange, SAD.

[The Imperial Reach]

I didn't say that but okay.



Things that aren't relevant don't need bashing; they need to be ignored.

They ignored the real nazis in the 20s and 30s went wonderfully for the whole world just ask William Shirer

TIL that electing people with controversial views to powerful positions of governance is "ignoring" them.

o.kay

I didn't say that but okay.



Things that aren't relevant don't need bashing; they need to be ignored.

We just gave you evidence that this IS relevant and your reaction is "nuh-uh!" In the words of L'Homme Orange, SAD.

Since you apparently weren't listening the first time, I'll say it again:

Giving attention to a bunch of morons with moronic views does not automatically make them relevant; nor does holding said moronic views make them relevant. When they start winning federal elections, basking in high public opinion ratings, and deciding the fate of entire countries without any serious opposition - then and only then will they be relevant again.

Relevance in politics is a matter of how much influence you hold, and these guys hold jack-all. Nazis, Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right, etc. These guys are not influencing shit, they're little more than a nuisance to be ignored. Don't mock them, don't suppress them; just ignore them, and they'll die in obscurity. Deny them the platforms they use to spread their idiotic messages not by violating their rights but by putting the spotlight on someone else. They are a minority, they've always been a minority, and they'll always be a minority. The minute that starts to change is the minute they start becoming relevant again.

If you can't understand this then it's just time to stop the threadjacking and move on.

[Impaled Nazarene]

They ignored the real nazis in the 20s and 30s went wonderfully for the whole world just ask William Shirer

TIL that electing people with controversial views to powerful positions of governance is "ignoring" them.

o.kay

We just gave you evidence that this IS relevant and your reaction is "nuh-uh!" In the words of L'Homme Orange, SAD.

Since you apparently weren't listening the first time, I'll say it again:

Giving attention to a bunch of morons with moronic views does not automatically make them relevant; nor does holding said moronic views make them relevant. When they start winning federal elections, basking in high public opinion ratings, and deciding the fate of entire countries without any serious opposition - then and only then will they be relevant again.

Relevance in politics is a matter of how much influence you hold, and these guys hold jack-all. Nazis, Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right, etc. These guys are not influencing shit, they're little more than a nuisance to be ignored. Don't mock them, don't suppress them; just ignore them, and they'll die in obscurity. Deny them the platforms they use to spread their idiotic messages not by violating their rights but by putting the spotlight on someone else. They are a minority, they've always been a minority, and they'll always be a minority. The minute that starts to change is the minute they start becoming relevant again.

If you can't understand this then it's just time to stop the threadjacking and move on.

Clearly you don't know jackshit about the history of Nazi Germany if you think the Nazis were elected to "powerful positions of governance" Nobody saw them as a threat and they were appointed to cabinet because the idiots that consisted of the actual government thought they could control the nazi party. No one absolutely no one thought they would take over government or set the Reichstag on fire to gain absolute power. If the Communists, Social Democrats, Nationalists, Conservatives etc. showed the slightest bit of backbone the Nazis would have been a footnote in the trainwreck of Weimar.

Your ignorance is astounding. Please consider picking up a book to learn about history.

[Jakker]

This thread is not about nazis, so let's get the topic back on hand. No more threadjacking.

[Cadonica]

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

[Galborea]

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

[Impaled Nazarene]

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

House Of Doom sounds like a modern Judas Priest song too.

[Galborea]

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

House Of Doom sounds like a modern Judas Priest song too.

Exactly

[Cosumar]

You know I never really understood the appeal of black metal. It just seems like a bunch of people screaming. I honestly don´t see why some like it.

What about black metal songs with non-screamed vocals?

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

I was hoping Johan's return would lead to some fresh songwriting, perhaps hearkening back to the Epicus Doomicus days, but instead they just sounded like extras written for Robert Lowe's vocal style.

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

House Of Doom sounds like a modern Judas Priest song too.

Does it? It sounds rather quintessentially Candlemass to me. Perhaps too much so...

At first I was like, "doesn't Candlemass already have a song called House of Doom?" Then I realized I was thinking of "House of 1000 Voices" from Death Magic Doom.

[Cadonica]

I found Candlemass' album kind of disappointing.

I was hoping Johan's return would lead to some fresh songwriting, perhaps hearkening back to the Epicus Doomicus days, but instead they just sounded like extras written for Robert Lowe's vocal style.

Johan doesn't sound like he does in Epicus. At all. But I guess that's to be expected, it's been 33 years after all, and the music itself isn't as dramatic as on Epicus.

Also my favorite song is the least metal one, Bridge of the Blind

[Dumb Ideologies]

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

Early album candidates for me are Lunar Falls by Suldusk, Folie by A Novelist and the self-titled by Wishfield (who my brain continuously wants me to call Fishwield).

[Galborea]

So, four months into 2019 and so far AotY candidate is The Door to Doom by Candlemass and SotY is Die by the Blade by Beast in Black. Both are likely to change.

Pretty pointless to talk about AotY/SotY this early in the year but hey at least it's something

Early album candidates for me are Lunar Falls by Suldusk, Folie by A Novelist and the self-titled by Wishfield (who my brain continuously wants me to call Fishwield).

Suldusk was sweet.