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Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:22 am**

Cosumar wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
I like things that sound beautiful.

Sorry if that offends you.

You're not truly metal until you hear the beauty in tortured, dying screams
(But seriously, there's a certain majesty to the harsh vocals of bands like Dissection or Agalloch.)

Better yet, ease yourself into it by listening to bands like Scar Symmetry that have both "beautiful" vocals and growls side-by-side

I 100% recommend Agalloch to people who think beautiful music can't have growls.

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:31 am**

Sunstruck wrote:
Cosumar wrote:You're not truly metal until you hear the beauty in tortured, dying screams
(But seriously, there's a certain majesty to the harsh vocals of bands like Dissection or Agalloch.)

Better yet, ease yourself into it by listening to bands like Scar Symmetry that have both "beautiful" vocals and growls side-by-side

I 100% recommend Agalloch to people who think beautiful music can't have growls.

Moonsorrow

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:43 am**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Sunstruck wrote:I 100% recommend Agalloch to people who think beautiful music can't have growls.

Moonsorrow

Silent Stream of Godless Elegy

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:47 pm**

I'm not entirely against growling. Like, if it's the backup vocalist growling I can sometimes tolerate that depending on what they sound like and what the main vocalist sounds like. I enjoy Brothers of Metal and Amaranthe, the former of which has a backup vocalist who growls while the latter has three vocalists - two clean, one unclean. Both have beautiful female vocals.

Speaking of beautiful, this most certainly is. (unrelated)

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:30 pm**

Spotify:

Me: *favorites Sabaton's entire discography*
Spotify: "We see you like power metal; here are 50 more power metal songs from big names in the genre."

Also Spotify:

Me: *favorites literally one Korpiklaani song
Spotify: "We see you like folk metal; here's 7,000 folk metal songs most of which aren't in English and were made by bands you've never heard of."

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:46 pm**

The Imperial Reach wrote:Spotify:

Me: *favorites Sabaton's entire discography*
Spotify: "We see you like power metal; here are 50 more power metal songs from big names in the genre."

Also Spotify:

Me: *favorites literally one Korpiklaani song
Spotify: "We see you like folk metal; here's 7,000 folk metal songs most of which aren't in English and were made by bands you've never heard of."

Good.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:36 pm**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:Spotify:

Me: *favorites Sabaton's entire discography*
Spotify: "We see you like power metal; here are 50 more power metal songs from big names in the genre."

Also Spotify:

Me: *favorites literally one Korpiklaani song
Spotify: "We see you like folk metal; here's 7,000 folk metal songs most of which aren't in English and were made by bands you've never heard of."

Good.

That's a funny way of spelling "Wack".

Tbh, most of the folk metal I heard today was pretty 'Meh'. I even had to skip one song - a Korpiklaani song, no less - because it was so boring I was actually yawning. Biggest highlight was with Alestorm (if you count them as folk metal) and Tyr; both of which I'm already familiar with. Only other names I recognized were Alkonost, Eluveitie, and one other band that I can't remember the name of right now. Their songs were better than the others, so they're not in the 'Meh' category.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:53 am**

Metal with folk elements is great but most things described up-front as "folk metal" tend to be knuckle-dragging hymns to drinking or try-hard cringey LARP.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:18 am**

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Metal with folk elements is great but most things described up-front as "folk metal" tend to be knuckle-dragging hymns to drinking or try-hard cringey LARP.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:18 pm**

Heavy metal is mostly anti-religious levayan satanic music that obsesses over gore, horror, rape, death, killing, Satan and evil.

This is my attitude, prejudiced? Stereotyping? You betcha.

Change my mind. Prove me wrong.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:41 pm**

Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia wrote:Heavy metal is mostly anti-religious levayan satanic music that obsesses over gore, horror, rape, death, killing, Satan and evil.

This is my attitude, prejudiced? Stereotyping? You betcha.

Change my mind. Prove me wrong.

Song about a beard.
Song about getting wasted.
Whatever Starchaser is about. I just love that solo.
Song about Bon Scott.
Another song about getting wasted.

Boom. Proven wrong.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:54 pm**

Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia wrote:Heavy metal is mostly anti-religious levayan satanic music that obsesses over gore, horror, rape, death, killing, Satan and evil.

This is my attitude, prejudiced? Stereotyping? You betcha.

Change my mind. Prove me wrong.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:28 pm**

Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia wrote:Heavy metal is mostly anti-religious levayan satanic music that obsesses over gore, horror, rape, death, killing, Satan and evil.

This is my attitude, prejudiced? Stereotyping? You betcha.

Change my mind. Prove me wrong.

How does Eluveitie, a Swiss Celtic Metal band that largely sings songs about ancient Gaul and its mythology, factor into this blanket statement? You're already proven wrong and that is just one example.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:57 pm**

...G.G. Allin, is that you? How the eff did he go from this to...well, G.G.? Kind of a drastic shift when you look at it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:42 pm**

So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:44 pm**

Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA8YcyMLJQk

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:46 pm**

Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

Sabaton is power metal. If you like them, I imagine you'd dig bands like Enforcer, Iron Savior and Skiltron.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:50 pm**

Ameriganastan wrote:
Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

Sabaton is power metal. If you like them, I imagine you'd dig bands like Enforcer, Iron Savior and Skiltron.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA8YcyMLJQk

Thanks! I'm going to check these guys out.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:02 pm**

Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce in the mid 2000s, all because of Guitar Hero. Now I find myself playing some older stuff like Metaliica or Skid Row every so often. Wait, is Skid Row even metal, or do they just count as hard rock?

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:05 pm**

Aaaaaa wrote:Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce in the mid 2000s, all because of Guitar Hero. Now I find myself playing some older stuff like Metaliica or Skid Row every so often. Wait, is Skid Row even metal, or do they just count as hard rock?

Opinion varies. I say they just squeak in as metal, mostly based on Slave To The Grind.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:44 pm**

Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

Alestorm is great, if you don't mind their silliness.

Gloryhammer is awesome too; I highly recommend Helloween as well.

Also Amaranthe (be warned they do have some unclean vocals at times), DragonForce, Metallica, Blind Guardian, Manowar, Tyr, Korpiklaani (it's all in Finnish though), Brothers of Metal (also some unclean vocals at times), Judas Priest, Powerwolf, Dio, Rhapsody of Fire, Ghost (though they've been getting awfully "poppy" lately), Lacuna Coil, and Nightwish.

Not all those are like Sabaton, but most of them are similar at least in sound and style. You're actually starting off great with Sabaton, though I might be totally biased in that regard because they're my favorite band. :lol:

Aaaaaa wrote:Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce

Why are you embarrassed? DragonForce is fucking awesome. Don't be embarrassed about liking DragonForce.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:03 pm**

Ameriganastan wrote:
Aaaaaa wrote:Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce in the mid 2000s, all because of Guitar Hero. Now I find myself playing some older stuff like Metaliica or Skid Row every so often. Wait, is Skid Row even metal, or do they just count as hard rock?

Opinion varies. I say they just squeak in as metal, mostly based on Slave To The Grind.

Oh yeah that's definitely more than hard rock.

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Aaaaaa wrote:Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce

Why are you embarrassed? DragonForce is fucking awesome. Don't be embarrassed about liking DragonForce.

Maybe "embarrassed" wasn't the best word. They're more a guilty pleasure than anything. I certainly don't hate them, but nowadays if I'm going to listen to them it'll be more for the meme than anything else.

Posted: **Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:20 pm**

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Andsed wrote:So I have never been a major metal sort of dude. But recently I have been really enjoying Sabaton music and I want to take a deeper dive into the metal genre. You guys got any recommendations?

Alestorm is great, if you don't mind their silliness.

Gloryhammer is awesome too; I highly recommend Helloween as well.

Also Amaranthe (be warned they do have some unclean vocals at times), DragonForce, Metallica, Blind Guardian, Manowar, Tyr, Korpiklaani (it's all in Finnish though), Brothers of Metal (also some unclean vocals at times), Judas Priest, Powerwolf, Dio, Rhapsody of Fire, Ghost (though they've been getting awfully "poppy" lately), Lacuna Coil, and Nightwish.

Not all those are like Sabaton, but most of them are similar at least in sound and style. You're actually starting off great with Sabaton, though I might be totally biased in that regard because they're my favorite band.

Aaaaaa wrote:Hmm... my first taste of metal was rather embarrassingly DragonForce

Why are you embarrassed? DragonForce is fucking awesome. Don't be embarrassed about liking DragonForce.

Wow thanks for all the suggestions dude. Also nice to see another Sabaton fan (though I have heard they are rather popular these days.)

Posted: **Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:52 am**

Aaaaaa wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Opinion varies. I say they just squeak in as metal, mostly based on Slave To The Grind.

Oh yeah that's definitely more than hard rock.

The Imperial Reach wrote:Why are you embarrassed? DragonForce is fucking awesome. Don't be embarrassed about liking DragonForce.

Maybe "embarrassed" wasn't the best word. They're more a guilty pleasure than anything. I certainly don't hate them, but nowadays if I'm going to listen to them it'll be more for the meme than anything else.

Dragonforce did an outstanding cover of one Death metal's oldest and most iconic songs so...

A song made by my favorite band no less. Even if it is their most overrated.

Posted: **Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:22 am**

The Imperial Reach wrote:Korpiklaani (it's all in Finnish though)

None of this is in Finnish.

Their first two albums were all in English with one song in Finnish. Third album was 50/50, fourth, fifth and sixth albums had two songs in English. Only the last four albums have been all in Finnish, but one of them has an all English version.

Just a little correction

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