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February is in the books. What is your most anticipated upcoming metal album of 2024?

Alcest - Les Chants De L'Aurore
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DragonForce - Warp Speed Warriors
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High on Fire - Cometh the Storm
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In Vain - Solemn
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Judas Priest - Invincible Shield
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40%
Knocked Loose - You Won’t Go Before You’re Supposed to
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Rotting Christ - Pro Xristoy
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Unleash the Archers - Phantoma
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Wintersun - Time II
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Other (Comment!)
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Total votes : 5

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Postby Kolmya » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:57 am

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None. I never said it did. I was speculating due to information provided by Kolmya, who said in his own words:
Yet I don't see you chastising him about it. I said basically the same thing he did, just with different words. He questioned if it was inherent in the genre and so did I. I never said "lol yeah all metalheads are suicidal" or anything like that. It was pure speculation which you're getting butthurt over on behalf of other people.

I do question Kolmya about that as well.

I was also just speculating as well, but after writing that post I realized it is just silly speculation. There are depressed people across pretty much any division, genre, country, etc. I didn't think I should bother editing my post or anything like that. Sorry about that.

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Postby Galborea » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:33 pm

I apologize for my seeming aggression. But I take assumptions about depressed and/or suicidal people quite seriously from past relations.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:08 pm

God, how was "Just Cos You Got The Power" a frigging B-side. That song needs more love. That guitar is sick.
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Postby Cadonica » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:God, how was "Just Cos You Got The Power" a frigging B-side. That song needs more love. That guitar is sick.

I know right! Easily one of my most listened to songs from that album.
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Postby Nazbol Pudding Club » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:56 pm

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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:00 pm

Video game metal. That's Jørn Lande apparently.
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Force of nature.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Pax Cybertronian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:22 am

What's everyone's opinion on this song? Can someone recommend some more Deathcore songs to me in this genre? I've also been thinking about starting to listen to Black Metal. Is it any good?
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:45 am

Sólstafir keeps on being consistent. The new album, Berdreyminn is around the same level as their previous albums. That being said, it's not amazing or great but passable.
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Postby Nazbol Pudding Club » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:47 am

Cadonica wrote:Sólstafir keeps on being consistent. The new album, Berdreyminn is around the same level as their previous albums. That being said, it's not amazing or great but passable.


Yeah, that fits with what I remember from previous albums. Got all the right ingredients but something's just lacking in the final product to make it something I'd listen to more than a few times through.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:50 am

Nazbol Pudding Club wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Sólstafir keeps on being consistent. The new album, Berdreyminn is around the same level as their previous albums. That being said, it's not amazing or great but passable.


Yeah, that fits with what I remember from previous albums. Got all the right ingredients but something's just lacking in the final product to make it something I'd listen to more than a few times through.

I could also add "consistently inconsistent" because even though there are some songs that I love on Svartir Sandar, there are also some songs on it that I don't like much at all, making it overall just average.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:11 am

Pax Cybertronian wrote:What's everyone's opinion on this song? Can someone recommend some more Deathcore songs to me in this genre? I've also been thinking about starting to listen to Black Metal. Is it any good?

Sounds decent enough. Even though they're technically not deathcore, The Browning, Dying Fetus and Jungle Rot might be to your liking as well.


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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:21 am


You need more grindcore then. This is child levels of weak.
Also get that Nazbol shit out of here.
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Postby Nazbol Pudding Club » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:42 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

You need more grindcore then. This is child levels of weak.
Also get that Nazbol shit out of here.


Such a rude doggo. No biscuit for you!

Facile ideological dickwaving and posturing aside, I'm more into my progressive and atmospheric metal rather than the straight out aggressive stuff, only grind I can really get on with is Anaal Nathrakh, and they're hardly a pure example.
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Postby Nazbol Pudding Club » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:42 pm

On which note, the new Wintersun is a bit of a yawnfest, long sections are boring and overblown. Thought he could get away with padding shit out again and just wanted to get the thing in the can so he could get back in the sauna I guess.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:25 pm

Nazbol Pudding Club wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:You need more grindcore then. This is child levels of weak.
Also get that Nazbol shit out of here.

Such a rude doggo. No biscuit for you!

Facile ideological dickwaving and posturing aside, I'm more into my progressive and atmospheric metal rather than the straight out aggressive stuff, only grind I can really get on with is Anaal Nathrakh, and they're hardly a pure example.

Grindcore, being a further evolution of the harsher side of punk, is not too terribly concerned with things such as purity. Anaal Nathrakh is a admirable example of that, given the way how they manage to combine and perfect elements of old Impaled Nazarene, Emperor and Napalm Death. Organized chaos never sounded so good, blackened death/grind for the win!


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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:45 pm

Napalm Death is progressive grindcore.
Source: Having songs longer than 3 minutes.
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Postby Kolmya » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:49 pm

Been going through some thrash like Sadus and Kreator recently. Disappointed to find out that Flag of Hate isn't making fun of nazis, especially considering they are from Germany and are a left-leaning thrash band (and the cover art looks like some sort of strasserist flag). However, this album is really awesome in terms of what actually matters, definitely 5 stars.
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Postby Cosumar » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:33 pm

Kolmya wrote:Been going through some thrash like Sadus and Kreator recently. Disappointed to find out that Flag of Hate isn't making fun of nazis, especially considering they are from Germany and are a left-leaning thrash band (and the cover art looks like some sort of strasserist flag). However, this album is really awesome in terms of what actually matters, definitely 5 stars.

Stop copying me! :p First we had mirror Iron Maiden phases, now mirror Kreator phases?
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:46 pm

Cosumar wrote:
Kolmya wrote:Been going through some thrash like Sadus and Kreator recently. Disappointed to find out that Flag of Hate isn't making fun of nazis, especially considering they are from Germany and are a left-leaning thrash band (and the cover art looks like some sort of strasserist flag). However, this album is really awesome in terms of what actually matters, definitely 5 stars.

Stop copying me! :p First we had mirror Iron Maiden phases, now mirror Kreator phases?

By the way this Bonehunter. You may commence with the one man mosh.
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Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:51 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Napalm Death is progressive grindcore.
Source: Having songs longer than 3 minutes.

Look, you can't maintain a genre for decades by only releasing albums with hundreds of microsongs. That being said, it's amazing how many good songs need less than a minute to get the point across.


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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:56 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Napalm Death is progressive grindcore.
Source: Having songs longer than 3 minutes.

Look, you can't maintain a genre for decades by only releasing albums with hundreds of microsongs. That being said, it's amazing how many good songs need less than a minute to get the point across.

:p
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Kolmya » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:08 pm

Cosumar wrote:
Kolmya wrote:Been going through some thrash like Sadus and Kreator recently. Disappointed to find out that Flag of Hate isn't making fun of nazis, especially considering they are from Germany and are a left-leaning thrash band (and the cover art looks like some sort of strasserist flag). However, this album is really awesome in terms of what actually matters, definitely 5 stars.

Stop copying me! :p First we had mirror Iron Maiden phases, now mirror Kreator phases?

That's weird, I promise I'll stop "copying" you. I'll listen to something you never would, like Candlemass! :p Earlier I was just listening to some technical thrash like Sadus and Watchtower and was kind of disappointed with how wanky it was, and somehow ended up on Kreator, and really liked it. I've also been going through a Yngwie phase the past week or so, and I can see why he gets a lot of flak. His live performances always just end up being a wank fest, and while his studio stuff can be technical, it's more restrained and musical. Compare this to this. Or this to this.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:02 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Cosumar wrote:Stop copying me! :p First we had mirror Iron Maiden phases, now mirror Kreator phases?

By the way this Bonehunter. You may commence with the one man mosh.

That album was one of the best from 2015. I ordered their new album from this year without listening one single song from it. I have high hopes :p
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:50 pm

I've been on a Metallica binge all day, so I feel curious to ask: Why do people think Lars is a bad drummer? I know he's a total nob personality wise, but I never got the slamming on his drumming. Course I don't know shit about drumming, so I probably don't know good from bad. Still though.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:59 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I've been on a Metallica binge all day, so I feel curious to ask: Why do people think Lars is a bad drummer? I know he's a total nob personality wise, but I never got the slamming on his drumming. Course I don't know shit about drumming, so I probably don't know good from bad. Still though.

I honestly don't know either. Pretty much the only actual instance outside fan memes where I've heard he is a bad drummer is from Dave Mustaine's memoir where he said Lars was more enthusiastic than actually good, but that was in the early eighties and everyone knows how much on drugs Dave was back then.

I don't know shit about playing instruments either so I can't really say who's actually good or bad regardless of instrument, as long as it sounds good to me it's good.
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