Metal Genre Music Discussion - Vol. 4

[Hurdergaryp]

Venom is one of my all time favorite bands but that's just overblowing it. Were they an influence on those three genres? Sure. Were they singlehandedly responsible for them? Absolutely not.

wrong.. actually Sarcofago is what really started black metal. They took inspiration from Venom, yes, but Sarcofago further developed black metal and in turn, influenced the Scandinavian black metal bands we all know too well today.

Sarcofago? Stating that a Brazilian death/thrash metal band inspired the Scandinavian black metal explosion is a bold statement indeed. It is more commonly accepted that it was Bathory from Sweden who was the infernal instigator of the blackened shockwave.

[Galborea]

Venom's influence has been seriously blown out of proportion. The vast majority of extreme metal's roots are owed to Hellhammer/Celtic Frost, Sarcofago, and Bathory.

[Galborea]

wrong.. actually Sarcofago is what really started black metal. They took inspiration from Venom, yes, but Sarcofago further developed black metal and in turn, influenced the Scandinavian black metal bands we all know too well today.

Sarcofago? Stating that a Brazilian death/thrash metal band inspired the Scandinavian black metal explosion is a bold statement indeed. It is more commonly accepted that it was Bathory from Sweden who was the infernal instigator of the blackened shockwave.

I would disagree with the specific claim of Sarcofago influencing "traditional" black metal but they have absolutely been instrumental in the creation of the noisier styles like war metal and lots of blackened thrash.

[The Imperial Reach]

Soilders of three armies and far from the fame? That is a weird way to spell lifetime of war.

You'll want some real war metal for that. You'll want Bolt Thrower.

>literally every aspect of Sabaton is about war
>somehow isn't "real war metal"

o.kay

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

[Jolthig]

wrong.. actually Sarcofago is what really started black metal. They took inspiration from Venom, yes, but Sarcofago further developed black metal and in turn, influenced the Scandinavian black metal bands we all know too well today.

Sarcofago? Stating that a Brazilian death/thrash metal band inspired the Scandinavian black metal explosion is a bold statement indeed. It is more commonly accepted that it was Bathory from Sweden who was the infernal instigator of the blackened shockwave.

I'm just saying their sound may have indeed influenced the Norwegian black metal scene of some sort. And yes. Sarcofago's first album was black metal.

[Hurdergaryp]

You'll want some real war metal for that. You'll want Bolt Thrower.

>literally every aspect of Sabaton is about war
>somehow isn't "real war metal"

o.kay

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

Wrong forum, anon.

Sarcofago? Stating that a Brazilian death/thrash metal band inspired the Scandinavian black metal explosion is a bold statement indeed. It is more commonly accepted that it was Bathory from Sweden who was the infernal instigator of the blackened shockwave.

I'm just saying their sound may have indeed influenced the Norwegian black metal scene of some sort. And yes. Sarcofago's first album was black metal.

The same goes for Sepultura.

[Impaled Nazarene]

We all know Vorg Vunkerness invented dark metal in a Swedish lake.

[Andsed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP8G-LwWNn0


Soooo yet another Sabaton update. They just released a new song called Fields of Verdun about well you know the battle of Verdun.

It is not my favorite but it still is a great song in my opinion.

TBH I just think death metal is just not my cup of tea. I am sure there is some good stuff out there I just more prefer stuff like power metal.

Do you like Judas Priest?

TBH not a major fan.

[Cosumar]

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

Dem's fighting words, son.


As someone who loves Sabaton's sound too, the whole second half of this song sounds just as epic to me.

Last STAND of Human-ITY! Dun Dun dudduddudunn DUN DUN duddudduddun.....

[Pax Nerdvana]

I've been listening to a little Sabaton recently. They're quite good. I personally like Screaming Eagles partly because of the near continuous drums.

[Andsed]

I've been listening to a little Sabaton recently. They're quite good. I personally like Screaming Eagles partly because of the near continuous drums.

Well if you like Sabaton I got some good news for you my dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP8G-LwWNn0


Soooo yet another Sabaton update. They just released a new song called Fields of Verdun about well you know the battle of Verdun.

It is not my favorite but it still is a great song in my opinion.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I've been listening to a little Sabaton recently. They're quite good. I personally like Screaming Eagles partly because of the near continuous drums.

Well if you like Sabaton I got some good news for you my dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP8G-LwWNn0


Soooo yet another Sabaton update. They just released a new song called Fields of Verdun about well you know the battle of Verdun.

It is not my favorite but it still is a great song in my opinion.

I haven't heard it yet. I did hear the Bismarck one though.

[Impaled Nazarene]

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

Dem's fighting words, son.


As someone who loves Sabaton's sound too, the whole second half of this song sounds just as epic to me.

Last STAND of Human-ITY! Dun Dun dudduddudunn DUN DUN duddudduddun.....

He's a filthy vanilla marine, there's no way he could appreciate the hard hitting riffs of the grim darkness of the far future.

[Cameroi]

i am unclear as to what defines the boundries of this genre.

[The Imperial Reach]

i am unclear as to what defines the boundries of this genre.

There really isn't any tbh. Metal is such a broad and diverse genre I can't help but laugh when people say they don't like metal, because I guarantee you there's some kind of metal - even if it's just one band, or one song even - that they like or will like if they gave it a shot.

Metal is for everyone.

[Andsed]

Well if you like Sabaton I got some good news for you my dude:

I haven't heard it yet. I did hear the Bismarck one though.

I would recommend it as I think it is a great song. It has a pretty badass chorus and the lyrics are also pretty awesome.

[The Imperial Reach]

I haven't heard it yet. I did hear the Bismarck one though.

I would recommend it as I think it is a great song. It has a pretty badass chorus and the lyrics are also pretty awesome.

It's pretty good, yeah. Though Bismarck is far better IMO.

[Jolthig]

>literally every aspect of Sabaton is about war
>somehow isn't "real war metal"

o.kay

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

Wrong forum, anon.

I'm just saying their sound may have indeed influenced the Norwegian black metal scene of some sort. And yes. Sarcofago's first album was black metal.

The same goes for Sepultura.

Yes that's true. Which interestingly enough Wagner was apart of sepultura for a bit

[Impaled Nazarene]

Wrong forum, anon.

The same goes for Sepultura.

Yes that's true. Which interestingly enough Wagner was apart of sepultura for a bit

Relevant

[Jolthig]

Yes that's true. Which interestingly enough Wagner was apart of sepultura for a bit

Relevant

Oh yes where Wagner was talking trash about max and the sepultura breakup

[Impaled Nazarene]

Relevant

Oh yes where Wagner was talking trash about max and the sepultura breakup

Wagner is like the Danzig of extreme metal nobody likes him and everyone wants to punch him.

[Jolthig]

Oh yes where Wagner was talking trash about max and the sepultura breakup

Wagner is like the Danzig of extreme metal nobody likes him and everyone wants to punch him.

Eh, Tommy Lee is up there with him although hes glam lol

[The Imperial Reach]

Oh yes where Wagner was talking trash about max and the sepultura breakup

Wagner is like the Danzig of extreme metal nobody likes him and everyone wants to punch him.

Do we not like Glenn Danzig?

[Cadonica]

New Amon Amarth

[Cosumar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP8G-LwWNn0
Soooo yet another Sabaton update. They just released a new song called Fields of Verdun about well you know the battle of Verdun.

It is not my favorite but it still is a great song in my opinion.

Great lead single, I'm encouraged. Kinda reminds me of "The Last Stand". The chorus is up there with Sabaton's catchiest and the verses have great energy.

At least Sabaton sounds epic; Bolt Thrower is a boring snoozefest (ironic considering they play death metal) with a silly name.

Dem's fighting words, son.


As someone who loves Sabaton's sound too, the whole second half of this song sounds just as epic to me.

Last STAND of Human-ITY! Dun Dun dudduddudunn DUN DUN duddudduddun.....

Hey Reach, did you have a chance to click that link? Curious to see if it changed your mind at all about Bolt Thrower being boring.

Metal is for everyone.

This video never fails to inject some hope and happiness into my veins!

Wagner is like the Danzig of extreme metal nobody likes him and everyone wants to punch him.

Do we not like Glenn Danzig?

He made some good music, but he's also known for being one of the most insufferable jerks in the whole industry

New Amon Amarth

Sadly, this doesn't do much for me. Seems pretty repetitive on first listen, not enough of that aggressive "charging into battle" feeling I look for from AA. Hopefully there will be some songs I like more on the album.