Pokemon Discussion Thread: Generation II

[The first Galactic Republic]

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Your point? You've read the Pokédex, haven't you?

That thing most fans treat as non canon because it's ridiculous? Pokémon as hot as the sun? Pokémon as smart as supercomputers enslaved by ten year olds?

[Olthar]

Your point? You've read the Pokédex, haven't you?

That thing most fans treat as non canon because it's ridiculous? Pokémon as hot as the sun? Pokémon as smart as supercomputers enslaved by ten year olds?

I don't think you understand what the word "canon" means. I'll give you a hint: fans don't have any say in it.

[The first Galactic Republic]

That thing most fans treat as non canon because it's ridiculous? Pokémon as hot as the sun? Pokémon as smart as supercomputers enslaved by ten year olds?

I don't think you understand what the word "canon" means. I'll give you a hint: fans don't have any say in it.

There's something of a dissonance in posting a long fan theory and then making a strict appeal to canon.

Anyways it may be canon but it's also quiet ignorable. It's not connected to anything. It's never cited as a source for other canon. Knowledge of it is never required for gameplay. What's the point in bringing it up anyways? Most people don't point to it as an example of good lore.

[New haven america]

I don't think you understand what the word "canon" means. I'll give you a hint: fans don't have any say in it.

There's something of a dissonance in posting a long fan theory and then making a strict appeal to canon.

Anyways it may be canon but it's also quiet ignorable. It's not connected to anything. It's never cited as a source for other canon. Knowledge of it is never required for gameplay. What's the point in bringing it up anyways? Most people don't point to it as an example of good lore.

Most fans actually do believe Pokedex entries to be canon, and a lot of them are actually pretty interesting.

[Impaled Nazarene]

There's something of a dissonance in posting a long fan theory and then making a strict appeal to canon.

Anyways it may be canon but it's also quiet ignorable. It's not connected to anything. It's never cited as a source for other canon. Knowledge of it is never required for gameplay. What's the point in bringing it up anyways? Most people don't point to it as an example of good lore.

Most fans actually do believe Pokedex entries to be canon, and a lot of them are actually pretty interesting.

Canon for the most part but the science is absurdly questionable. Macargo would be blinding to even glance at. The poxedex entries aren't that consistent across mediums either.

[Olthar]

I don't think you understand what the word "canon" means. I'll give you a hint: fans don't have any say in it.

There's something of a dissonance in posting a long fan theory and then making a strict appeal to canon.

Anyways it may be canon but it's also quiet ignorable. It's not connected to anything. It's never cited as a source for other canon. Knowledge of it is never required for gameplay. What's the point in bringing it up anyways? Most people don't point to it as an example of good lore.

Not at all. A trap too many people fall into is to assume that creating fanon means that canon is no longer important. In fact, it is just the opposite. Good fanon requires an even stricter basis in canon. Good fanon fills in the holes without altering anything. It answers questions without creating contradictions. Most people don't seem to get that, and most people make dumbass fan theories or assume that ignoring things is kosher.

Most fans actually do believe Pokedex entries to be canon, and a lot of them are actually pretty interesting.

Canon for the most part but the science is absurdly questionable. Macargo would be blinding to even glance at. The poxedex entries aren't that consistent across mediums either.

This is a world in which animals conjure magical powers and a handheld device can safely contain the energy of a couple hundred nukes. Science is taken loosely, at best. Also, it being canon doesn't necessarily mean it's factual. The Pokédex clearly references myth and urban legends, so it is inherently unreliable. These facts could be an exaggeration.



Oh, and the most important thing of all: it doesn't even matter if the Pokédex is truthful. My theory was called out as being too dark for Pokémon. I refuted that by referencing something in the games that is much darker. Even if it's all pure lies, it's still in the game. All those entries about kidnapping and murdering children are still there, along with the rest.

[The first Galactic Republic]

There's something of a dissonance in posting a long fan theory and then making a strict appeal to canon.

Anyways it may be canon but it's also quiet ignorable. It's not connected to anything. It's never cited as a source for other canon. Knowledge of it is never required for gameplay. What's the point in bringing it up anyways? Most people don't point to it as an example of good lore.

Most fans actually do believe Pokedex entries to be canon, and a lot of them are actually pretty interesting.

Olthar made this about canon. My point was that it was ignorable. Canon can be ignorable.

It's not like every entry is awful but a lot of fans roll their eyes on some of the more extreme ones. Ever hear the fan theory that the pokedex is actually written by the protagonist and is silly at times because the protagonist is a kid?

[Transoxthraxia]

Most fans actually do believe Pokedex entries to be canon, and a lot of them are actually pretty interesting.

Olthar made this about canon. My point was that it was ignorable. Canon can be ignorable.

It's not like every entry is awful but a lot of fans roll their eyes on some of the more extreme ones. Ever hear the fan theory that the pokedex is actually written by the protagonist and is silly at times because the protagonist is a kid?

This theory brings up a lot of questions that I have about the protagonist in Sun/Moon... Especially about Salazzle.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Olthar made this about canon. My point was that it was ignorable. Canon can be ignorable.

It's not like every entry is awful but a lot of fans roll their eyes on some of the more extreme ones. Ever hear the fan theory that the pokedex is actually written by the protagonist and is silly at times because the protagonist is a kid?

This theory brings up a lot of questions that I have about the protagonist in Sun/Moon... Especially about Salazzle.

Salazzle brings up many questions.

[Transoxthraxia]

This theory brings up a lot of questions that I have about the protagonist in Sun/Moon... Especially about Salazzle.

Salazzle brings up many questions.

Also, for those who haven't already, do not google image search Salazzle.

Edit: TBF Salazzle is one of my top six in Moon. Really handy typing and good move pool.

[Parhe]

Pokemon is also the world with actual psychics who can teleport themselves and witches who can turn people into Pokemon. The Pokedex itself also doesn't make sense and I don't believe that the theory that the protagonists write the entries does a good job of justifying it. There are some things in the Pokedex that would make no sense for a child to know or learn about a Pokemon after just encountering and catching one.

Unless, of course, we assume the protagonists are liars who make things up (they are only about 10 to 15 years old) and reused entries are just stored information made up by previous characters.

[Saint Nathan]

Is Jigglypiff gen III?

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Is Jigglypiff gen III?

Gen 1

[Transoxthraxia]

Just caught a shiny linoone in OR

Cool

[Transoxthraxia]

Does anyone else get a weird, vagule sexual vibe from Magma Admin Courtney?

[New haven america]

Does anyone else get a weird, vagule sexual vibe from Magma Admin Courtney?

You should look her up on Google Images. *Nod*

[Impaled Nazarene]

Does anyone else get a weird, vagule sexual vibe from Magma Admin Courtney?

Well considering she shows autistic traits that makes her waifu by default.

[Frenline Delpha]

So, I'm playing Platinum, and I already have all six of my teammates on this playthrough. I just got my Gallade, my Piloswine is level 27, my Gabite is level 35, my Haunter is level 18, my Crobat is level 34, and my precious little Umbreon is level 35.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Does anyone else get a weird, vagule sexual vibe from Magma Admin Courtney?

More so than the stripperific pirate lady?

Or the pirates who don't wear shirts?

[Dragoria]

I'm breeding up mareeps, dedennes, and larvestas to trade away in my Moon version. Anything under Relatively Superior potential gets released outright. Throw a TG my way if you want one. I'll accept anything, but I'd be thrilled stupid for a deerling or noibat.
I can also breed up R.S./Outstanding totodiles, dratinis, and goomies if anyone wants those. Can't promise any specific IVs though.

[Transoxthraxia]

I'm breeding up mareeps, dedennes, and larvestas to trade away in my Moon version. Anything under Relatively Superior potential gets released outright. Throw a TG my way if you want one. I'll accept anything, but I'd be thrilled stupid for a deerling or noibat.
I can also breed up R.S./Outstanding totodiles, dratinis, and goomies if anyone wants those. Can't promise any specific IVs though.

I'm down to receive a mareep or larvesta, if I'm being frank. I'd be happy to trade away any degree of rare pokemon that I'll be importing into Sun from my OR. I'll telegram you with some examples.

[New haven america]

You know what I miss about Pokémon? Post-game content.

I literally made an entire region, with one of the things I emphasized being post-game content.

I think E, DPP, and B2W2 spoiled me in the regard...

[New haven america]

Yep, new movie's just going to be a remake of the first episode.

I see the Gen I praise train isn't stopping anytime soon.

[Killdash]

Salazzle brings up many questions.

Also, for those who haven't already, do not google image search Salazzle.

Edit: TBF Salazzle is one of my top six in Moon. Really handy typing and good move pool.

This warning could have been bumped up to the top of the thread, saving my shattered mental state in the process.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Yep, new movie's just going to be a remake of the first episode.

I see the Gen I praise train isn't stopping anytime soon.

come on. its the movie for the 20th anniversary this one gets a pass. Unlike SM