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Favourite Starter Pokemon (Fire)?

Charmander
68
22%
Cyndaquil
59
19%
Torchic
43
14%
Chimchar
20
7%
Tepig
7
2%
Fennekin
28
9%
Litten
20
7%
Never start with fire
38
12%
Pikachu. Always Pikachu
24
8%
 
Total votes : 307

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 03, 2018 1:01 pm

Olthar wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:a little bit insulted.....but its true. :lol2:

I'm talking about children, not manchildren (even if that is appropriate, too). The primary demographic for Pokémon has and will always be kids. We may still like it, but we are not the audience they care about.

Unfortunately for us.
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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 1:07 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Olthar wrote:I'm talking about children, not manchildren (even if that is appropriate, too). The primary demographic for Pokémon has and will always be kids. We may still like it, but we are not the audience they care about.

Unfortunately for us.

I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Thu May 03, 2018 1:07 pm

Olthar wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:a little bit insulted.....but its true. :lol2:

I'm talking about children, not manchildren (even if that is appropriate, too). The primary demographic for Pokémon has and will always be kids. We may still like it, but we are not the audience they care about.

it probably best to....because I would literally throw myself off a bridge if there was a scene between misty and ash.
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Postby Mundeo » Thu May 03, 2018 1:22 pm

Olthar wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Unfortunately for us.

I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.

Origins and Generations is probably the farthest pokémon has ever strayed from its usual juvenile tone recently animation-wise. We all know just how contrasting the manga is compared to the anime. And gen 5 and 7 delved into some slightly less sunshine-and-rainbows themes, too, especially surrounding N and Lillie.
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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 1:26 pm

Mundeo wrote:
Olthar wrote:I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.

Origins and Generations is probably the farthest pokémon has ever strayed from its usual juvenile tone recently animation-wise. We all know just how contrasting the manga is compared to the anime. And gen 5 and 7 delved into some slightly less sunshine-and-rainbows themes, too, especially surrounding N and Lillie.

And I appreciate that. I like it when it does serious stuff without losing its charm.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 03, 2018 1:56 pm

Mundeo wrote:
Olthar wrote:I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.

Origins and Generations is probably the farthest pokémon has ever strayed from its usual juvenile tone recently animation-wise. We all know just how contrasting the manga is compared to the anime. And gen 5 and 7 delved into some slightly less sunshine-and-rainbows themes, too, especially surrounding N and Lillie.

Yeah, I actually prefer the manga over the anime. Scratch the older audience idea. That would probably be terrible.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 03, 2018 1:59 pm

Mundeo wrote:
Olthar wrote:I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.

Origins and Generations is probably the farthest pokémon has ever strayed from its usual juvenile tone recently animation-wise. We all know just how contrasting the manga is compared to the anime. And gen 5 and 7 delved into some slightly less sunshine-and-rainbows themes, too, especially surrounding N and Lillie.

I haven't actually played the original BW, but BW2 implies a cult-like structure in Team Plasma, which is also a more mature theme.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 03, 2018 2:00 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mundeo wrote:Origins and Generations is probably the farthest pokémon has ever strayed from its usual juvenile tone recently animation-wise. We all know just how contrasting the manga is compared to the anime. And gen 5 and 7 delved into some slightly less sunshine-and-rainbows themes, too, especially surrounding N and Lillie.

I haven't actually played the original BW, but BW2 implies a cult-like structure in Team Plasma, which is also a more mature theme.

That's sort of what the BW manga potrayed. I haven't played anything newer than Gen 3 though, so I could be wrong.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 03, 2018 2:02 pm

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Postby New haven america » Thu May 03, 2018 2:34 pm

Olthar wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Unfortunately for us.

I think its fine. One thing I like about Pokémon is the light-hearted and simple morality. Brooding anti-heroes and grim, morally ambiguous worlds are fine and all, but I like to have a break now and then. I'm sure any Pokémon game or show aimed at adults would suck. The charm lies in its immaturity.

Pokemon can delve into darker things and still be good though. Legend of Thunder for example, which while keeping the good v. bad idea, really delves into how bad Team Rocket can be (Pokemon abuse, not being phased by murder/attempted murder, etc...).
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Postby New haven america » Thu May 03, 2018 2:35 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Olthar wrote:I'm talking about children, not manchildren (even if that is appropriate, too). The primary demographic for Pokémon has and will always be kids. We may still like it, but we are not the audience they care about.

it probably best to....because I would literally throw myself off a bridge if there was a scene between misty and ash.
Anyone who has seen any adult version of a kids show on HBO knows it can turn graphic fast... :? :?

Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 03, 2018 3:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:it probably best to....because I would literally throw myself off a bridge if there was a scene between misty and ash.
Anyone who has seen any adult version of a kids show on HBO knows it can turn graphic fast... :? :?

Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...

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Postby New haven america » Thu May 03, 2018 3:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...

?

¿
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 03, 2018 3:40 pm

New haven america wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:?

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Oh, I understand now. Thanks!
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Postby New haven america » Thu May 03, 2018 3:54 pm

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New haven america wrote:¿

Oh, I understand now. Thanks!

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 03, 2018 7:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:it probably best to....because I would literally throw myself off a bridge if there was a scene between misty and ash.
Anyone who has seen any adult version of a kids show on HBO knows it can turn graphic fast... :? :?

Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...

There's an adult version of everything these days.
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat May 05, 2018 3:43 am

New haven america wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:it probably best to....because I would literally throw myself off a bridge if there was a scene between misty and ash.
Anyone who has seen any adult version of a kids show on HBO knows it can turn graphic fast... :? :?

Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...

It gets even worse. "Pokeporn" is a thing. >:( >:( >:(

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat May 05, 2018 5:15 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well, they already made and adult version of Pokemon though...

It gets even worse. "Pokeporn" is a thing. >:( >:( >:(

That doesn't surprise me.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:40 am

USUM did almost everything better than SUMO aside from the Aether plotline. Way to make Gladion make no sense. It's like the Pokemon Company saw all the edgy tumblr headcanons and decided to make a crappy alternative that's edgy for no reason.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:53 pm

So I got a Mimikyu and want it on my team, which Pokémon should I replace?


Current team is Decidueye, Blaziken, Greninja, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Day form), and Wishiwashi (With school form). I was thinking Ribombee since they're both Fairies, but other's input would be nice.
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New haven america wrote:So I got a Mimikyu and want it on my team, which Pokémon should I replace?


Current team is Decidueye, Blaziken, Greninja, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Day form), and Wishiwashi (With school form). I was thinking Ribombee since they're both Fairies, but other's input would be nice.


But at the same time both Mimikyu and Decidueye are Ghost. Personally I'd replace Ribombee because the types it's STABs are strong against will then be covered by the rest of the team's STABs. But then personally I'd look at removing one of Greninja or Wishiwashi (and probably the latter) because unless Geninja has Protean that's half your team with a weakness to Grass.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:07 pm

The Blazing Aura wrote:
New haven america wrote:So I got a Mimikyu and want it on my team, which Pokémon should I replace?


Current team is Decidueye, Blaziken, Greninja, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Day form), and Wishiwashi (With school form). I was thinking Ribombee since they're both Fairies, but other's input would be nice.


But at the same time both Mimikyu and Decidueye are Ghost. Personally I'd replace Ribombee because the types it's STABs are strong against will then be covered by the rest of the team's STABs. But then personally I'd look at removing one of Greninja or Wishiwashi (and probably the latter) because unless Geninja has Protean that's half your team with a weakness to Grass.

Of course it has Protean, what would be the point in having one without it?
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:14 am

New haven america wrote:So I got a Mimikyu and want it on my team, which Pokémon should I replace?


Current team is Decidueye, Blaziken, Greninja, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Day form), and Wishiwashi (With school form). I was thinking Ribombee since they're both Fairies, but other's input would be nice.

I feel old now. I don't know any of these Pokèmon.
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Postby Olthar » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:39 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
New haven america wrote:So I got a Mimikyu and want it on my team, which Pokémon should I replace?


Current team is Decidueye, Blaziken, Greninja, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Day form), and Wishiwashi (With school form). I was thinking Ribombee since they're both Fairies, but other's input would be nice.

I feel old now. I don't know any of these Pokèmon.

Not even Blaziken? That's only Gen 3.
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