Pokemon Discussion Thread: Generation II

[Mundeo]

I updated my team:

Hippowdon (F) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Gastrodon-East (M) @ Quick Claw
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Sludge Bomb

Golurk @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
- Drain Punch

Torterra (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Synthesis
- Stealth Rock
- Wood Hammer
- Stone Edge

Excadrill (M) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor

Claydol @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Rapid Spin
- Shadow Ball
- Psyshock

[Frenline Delpha]

Would you all mind if I switched my Trevenant out for a Wash Rotom, considering it comes from Rotom, which is half ghost?

Or maybe an Aegislash.

[The united states of Saints]

Would you all mind if I switched my Trevenant out for a Wash Rotom, considering it comes from Rotom, which is half ghost?

Or maybe an Aegislash.

It loses its ghost typing when it becomes Wash Rotom so yes I would mind, but if its normal rotom then you're fine. Aegislash would be fine as well.

[Frenline Delpha]

Alright, updated my team:

Decidueye @ Ghostium Z
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Roost
- U-turn
- Leaf Blade

Mimikyu @ Leftovers
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leech Life
- Play Rough
- Shadow Sneak

Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brick Break
- Double-Edge
- Shadow Bone

Drifblim @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Destiny Bond
- Defog
- Knock Off

Chandelure @ Absorb Bulb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 8 SpD / 248 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Dark Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Hex

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- King's Shield
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Sacred Sword

Also, could the leaders also make a separate team specifically for challenging other leaders and the Elite Four, much like how the gym leaders in platinum use different teams outside of the gyms than they do inside? Actually, scratch that.

[The united states of Saints]

I updated my team:

Hippowdon (F) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Gastrodon-East (M) @ Quick Claw
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Sludge Bomb

Golurk @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
- Drain Punch

Torterra (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Synthesis
- Stealth Rock
- Wood Hammer
- Stone Edge

Excadrill (M) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor

Claydol @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Rapid Spin
- Shadow Ball
- Psyshock

Get rid of the smooth rock on hippowdon and replace it with leftovers, also slack off is one of the main reasons hippowdon is good as a mixed/physical wall/tank so you should either remove stone edge, stealth rock or toxic.

[Osnil Returns]

I'll have my Team up tomorrow.

[Osnil Returns]

I am the night. I am. . . the Dark Gym Leader.
NS League Leader App

NS Name: Osnil Returns
Showdown Name: Osnil Returns
Type: Dark
Badge:
Night Badge
Team:
Alolan Persian-Fake Out, U-turn, Parting Shot, Foul Play
Item: Darkanium Z
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Fur Coat

Umbreon-Wish, Protect, Foul Play, Dark Pulse
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Synchronize

Mightyena-Play Rough, Sucker Punch, Iron Tain, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Nature: Impish

Sableye-Will-o-wisp, Fake Out, Protect, Recover
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hasty
Nature: Calm

Sharpedo-Protect, Dark Pulse, Ice Fang, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Adament

Shiny Liepard-Knock Off, Encore, Thunder Wave, Play Rough
Item: Black Glasses
Ability: Limber
Nature: Jolly

[The united states of Saints]

I am the night. I am. . . the Dark Gym Leader.
NS League Leader App

NS Name: Osnil Returns
Showdown Name: Osnil Returns
Type: Dark
Badge:
Night Badge
Team:
Alolan Persian-Fake Out, U-turn, Parting Shot, Foul Play
Item: Darkanium Z
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Fur Coat

Umbreon-Wish, Protect, Foul Play, Dark Pulse
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Synchronize

Mightyena-Play Rough, Sucker Punch, Iron Tain, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Nature: Impish

Sableye-Will-o-wisp, Fake Out, Protect, Recover
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hasty
Nature: Calm

Sharpedo-Protect, Dark Pulse, Ice Fang, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Adament

Shiny Liepard-Knock Off, Encore, Thunder Wave, Play Rough
Item: Black Glasses
Ability: Limber
Nature: Jolly

What are the effort values for each?

[Osnil Returns]

I am the night. I am. . . the Dark Gym Leader.
NS League Leader App

NS Name: Osnil Returns
Showdown Name: Osnil Returns
Type: Dark
Badge:
Night Badge
Team:
Alolan Persian-Fake Out, U-turn, Parting Shot, Foul Play
Item: Darkanium Z
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Fur Coat

Umbreon-Wish, Protect, Foul Play, Dark Pulse
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Synchronize

Mightyena-Play Rough, Sucker Punch, Iron Tain, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Nature: Impish

Sableye-Will-o-wisp, Fake Out, Protect, Recover
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hasty
Nature: Calm

Sharpedo-Protect, Dark Pulse, Ice Fang, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Adament

Shiny Liepard-Knock Off, Encore, Thunder Wave, Play Rough
Item: Black Glasses
Ability: Limber
Nature: Jolly

What are the effort values for each?

Persian:
HP: 220
Sp Def: 36
Speed: 252
I'm going to grab breakfast, then I'll get the rest.

[Mundeo]

I updated my team:

Hippowdon (F) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Gastrodon-East (M) @ Quick Claw
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Sludge Bomb

Golurk @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
- Drain Punch

Torterra (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Synthesis
- Stealth Rock
- Wood Hammer
- Stone Edge

Excadrill (M) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor

Claydol @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Rapid Spin
- Shadow Ball
- Psyshock

Get rid of the smooth rock on hippowdon and replace it with leftovers, also slack off is one of the main reasons hippowdon is good as a mixed/physical wall/tank so you should either remove stone edge, stealth rock or toxic.

I didn't want to make it too much like my Torterra, which has leftovers, stealth rock, and synthesis. I want to have that smooth rock so that Sandstorm lasts longer, but i can replace something with slack off. Should I just replace Torterra, then?

[Frenline Delpha]

Could we have a poll about which alolan line/pokemon is our favorite?

[Osnil Returns]

Could we have a poll about which alolan line/pokemon is our favorite?

Persian hands down.

[Frenline Delpha]

Could we have a poll about which alolan line/pokemon is our favorite?

Persian hands down.

Raichu will take you on any day... and lose horribly due to it's typing.

[The united states of Saints]

Get rid of the smooth rock on hippowdon and replace it with leftovers, also slack off is one of the main reasons hippowdon is good as a mixed/physical wall/tank so you should either remove stone edge, stealth rock or toxic.

I didn't want to make it too much like my Torterra, which has leftovers, stealth rock, and synthesis. I want to have that smooth rock so that Sandstorm lasts longer, but i can replace something with slack off. Should I just replace Torterra, then?

If torterra has stealth rock then replace hippowdon's stealth rock with slack off. I think torterra gives you some coverage so I would keep it. I haven't used torterra so I don't know what its usual role on a team is.

[The united states of Saints]

Persian hands down.

Raichu will take you on any day... and lose horribly due to it's typing.

I think raichu could win because it can know focus blast even though its only slightly slower. Alola Persian has only 60 base attack which is awful even with foul play because alola raichu is a special attacker not physical. That makes persian's fur coat ability useless against raichu as well. On top of this raichu has better defenses than persian. Of course persian still has a chance if it has the technician ability and knows faint attack or any dark type move with a power of 60. Would it kill raichu? Maybe it would certainly be close. Having effort values in attack helps with that.

Persian does know fake out as well and if that is boosted by technician then I would say persian clearly wins.

[Mundeo]

Could we have a poll about which alolan line/pokemon is our favorite?

In terms of appearance, Alolan Vulpix/Ninetales is my favorite, but alas, its typing is absolutely terrible

I like Alolan Raichu and Marowak, too.

I didn't want to make it too much like my Torterra, which has leftovers, stealth rock, and synthesis. I want to have that smooth rock so that Sandstorm lasts longer, but i can replace something with slack off. Should I just replace Torterra, then?

If torterra has stealth rock then replace hippowdon's stealth rock with slack off. I think torterra gives you some coverage so I would keep it. I haven't used torterra so I don't know what its usual role on a team is.

Torterra is mostly there for the same reason Gastrodon is: its just one of my favorite pokémon. The one I used in Platinum (and Moon through Pokebank) had pokérus, so it outsped a lot of pokemon. A speedy tank is certainly a force to be reckoned with

[The united states of Saints]

Could we have a poll about which alolan line/pokemon is our favorite?

In terms of appearance, Alolan Vulpix/Ninetales is my favorite, but alas, its typing is absolutely terrible

I like Alolan Raichu and Marowak, too.

If torterra has stealth rock then replace hippowdon's stealth rock with slack off. I think torterra gives you some coverage so I would keep it. I haven't used torterra so I don't know what its usual role on a team is.

Torterra is mostly there for the same reason Gastrodon is: its just one of my favorite pokémon. The one I used in Platinum (and Moon through Pokebank) had pokérus, so it outsped a lot of pokemon. A speedy tank is certainly a force to be reckoned with

They lose a lot of tankiness when they get speed though. Torterra isn't actually fast (its an overgrown tortoise with rocks and trees growing out of its shell for pete's sake) its base speed is 56. Same thing with gastrodon it isn't fast at all

[Mundeo]

In terms of appearance, Alolan Vulpix/Ninetales is my favorite, but alas, its typing is absolutely terrible

I like Alolan Raichu and Marowak, too.


Torterra is mostly there for the same reason Gastrodon is: its just one of my favorite pokémon. The one I used in Platinum (and Moon through Pokebank) had pokérus, so it outsped a lot of pokemon. A speedy tank is certainly a force to be reckoned with

They lose a lot of tankiness when they get speed though. Torterra isn't actually fast (its an overgrown tortoise with rocks and trees growing out of its shell for pete's sake) its base speed is 56. Same thing with gastrodon it isn't fast at all

I know, but just from the stat boost that it got from Pokérus made it faster than a lot of pokémon it faced. It was still an absolute tank. The one I'm using for this league, unfortunately, will not have that speed boost. I also got rid of the quick claw on Gastrodon for a Rindo Berry.

[Osnil Returns]

They lose a lot of tankiness when they get speed though. Torterra isn't actually fast (its an overgrown tortoise with rocks and trees growing out of its shell for pete's sake) its base speed is 56. Same thing with gastrodon it isn't fast at all

I know, but just from the stat boost that it got from Pokérus made it faster than a lot of pokémon it faced. It was still an absolute tank. The one I'm using for this league, unfortunately, will not have that speed boost. I also got rid of the quick claw on Gastrodon for a Rindo Berry.

Wehn is the tournament?

[Mundeo]

I know, but just from the stat boost that it got from Pokérus made it faster than a lot of pokémon it faced. It was still an absolute tank. The one I'm using for this league, unfortunately, will not have that speed boost. I also got rid of the quick claw on Gastrodon for a Rindo Berry.

Wehn is the tournament?

Wons we goht enuf pepulz.

Including you, we have four gym leaders right now. We could just make us four the Elite Four and any future applications gym leaders, then we can start off the tournament to decide the champion later today.

[The States of Balloon]

Wehn is the tournament?

Wons we goht enuf pepulz.

Including you, we have four gym leaders right now. We could just make us four the Elite Four and any future applications gym leaders, then we can start off the tournament to decide the champion later today.

Quesshun: is one of those people me because I never got an official a-Okay on my team

[Frenline Delpha]

Although I must say I have a soft spot for Marowak since it gains ghost typing, which is my favorite type. (If that wasn't already obvious)

[Osnil Returns]

Wehn is the tournament?

Wons we goht enuf pepulz.

Including you, we have four gym leaders right now. We could just make us four the Elite Four and any future applications gym leaders, then we can start off the tournament to decide the champion later today.

I accidentally spelled one word wrong. Sadly, I've got stuff tonight/tomorrow morning. Tomorrow Afternoon I'm free.

[Mundeo]

Wons we goht enuf pepulz.

Including you, we have four gym leaders right now. We could just make us four the Elite Four and any future applications gym leaders, then we can start off the tournament to decide the champion later today.

Quesshun: is one of those people me because I never got an official a-Okay on my team

Every app is being accepted until we have a maximum of 12 (E4 and 8 leaders)

Wons we goht enuf pepulz.

Including you, we have four gym leaders right now. We could just make us four the Elite Four and any future applications gym leaders, then we can start off the tournament to decide the champion later today.

I accidentally spelled one word wrong. Sadly, I've got stuff tonight/tomorrow morning. Tomorrow Afternoon I'm free.

Sorry. I definitely got a bit carried away there

If we do start the tourney today, we can always postpone your battles for when you're available.
But I'm still thinking: should we use our gym teams or our own custom teams for the tourney?

[Frenline Delpha]

I am the night. I am. . . the Dark Gym Leader.
NS League Leader App

NS Name: Osnil Returns
Showdown Name: Osnil Returns
Type: Dark
Badge:
Night Badge
Team:
Alolan Persian-Fake Out, U-turn, Parting Shot, Foul Play
Item: Darkanium Z
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Fur Coat

Umbreon-Wish, Protect, Foul Play, Dark Pulse
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Synchronize

Mightyena-Play Rough, Sucker Punch, Iron Tain, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Nature: Impish

Sableye-Will-o-wisp, Fake Out, Protect, Recover
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hasty
Nature: Calm

Sharpedo-Protect, Dark Pulse, Ice Fang, Crunch
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Adament

Shiny Liepard-Knock Off, Encore, Thunder Wave, Play Rough
Item: Black Glasses
Ability: Limber
Nature: Jolly

That Sharpedo will fuck me, considering my one special attacker is a fire/ghost type, literally the opposite type to water/dark.