God of the New World?

[Infected Mushroom]

Let us discuss the following hypothetical.

Death Note is real. The notebook of death is real. If you write someone's name in the notebook, they will die of a heart attack (or in any other way specified by the writer). A student calling himself "Kira" has this notebook; he is using this notebook to execute violent criminals on a daily basis. Years have passed and many criminals have died. The police are trying to catch him. "Kira" has gained a cult following and many see him as a god of justice in the new world. Ever since Kira's activities have begun, wars have stopped and crime has gone down by over 70 percent.

The world has become divided between those voices that support Kira (some seeing him as a god of justice who has created a safer world and will eradicate crime) and those who oppose him, believing he is a threat to the rule of law and democracy.

In such a world, politically, would you support or oppose Kira?

Please explain.

The results speak for themselves (crime has gone down) so clearly, its working. And since God himself seems to have no problems with a world where violent crimes exist, I am perfectly okay with replacing him with a new god. I would have no problem declaring Kira the god of the new world.

[Neanderthaland]

Shit. I'm always dropping that thing.

[San Marlindo]

Kira must be stopped, captured, put on trial for murder, and the notebook destroyed. No man has the right to this sort of power over the lives of billions of other people. Especially when he uses it for extrajudicial killings.

He has broken the law, and killed people.

Whether or not this was for the greater good is irrelevant. He must answer for his crimes.

[European Guilds]

Well, atleast it's not a thread about banning dogs....

[Gurori]

I wouldn't support Kira, that bastard's killing innocents.

Thank goodness the Shinigami that gave Kira his death note will end up killing Kira.

[Community Values]

Kill him, eventually he will start killing people based off of whether or not they are "capable of committing crime".

[San Marlindo]

Well, atleast it's not a thread about banning dogs....

Or suits.

[Auristania]

OP specifies that Kira only kills the guilty, therefore I support him.
If 1% of Kira's victims are innocent, I might let it slide.
If 30% are innocent, I oppose.

Obviously I want the Book for myself. But as long as Kyra hangs the people I want to hang....

[Danceria]

The ability to enforce justice is tied to Human Free Will. If an entity or group of entities is obstructing that because of Human choices or lack thereof, that group must be stopped.

[Infected Mushroom]

Kill him, eventually he will start killing people based off of whether or not they are "capable of committing crime".

not necessarily

why would you think that?

[Mushet]

Kira didn't just kill violent criminals, and yes I'd be opposed to some maniac extrajudicially mass murdering for perceived wrongs.

[Galloism]

Is Kira both omniscient and omnibenevolent?

[The Two Jerseys]

If Harry Callahan disapproves of vigilantism, then you definitely know it's not a good thing.

[Community Values]

Kill him, eventually he will start killing people based off of whether or not they are "capable of committing crime".

not necessarily

why would you think that?

If you were God, and you could decide:

Kill person A, which has not committed a crime yet, but looks like he may in the future, or let Persons B and C, which will be killed if Person A commits the crime.

Add extremely self-righteous and arrogant to the God and I think you got a utilitarian society led by Kira.

[Genivaria]

Kill him, eventually he will start killing people based off of whether or not they are "capable of committing crime".

not necessarily

why would you think that?

Yes necessarily.
When you have a really big hammer and noone to answer to then everyone looks like a nail.

[Shamhnan Insir]

Where does Kira get his information from? At some point it could become bias, or misinformed.

[Genivaria]

Is Kira both omniscient and omnibenevolent?

No and no.

[Gauthier]

I take comfort knowing I do not exist in such a Mary Sue Munchkin world.

[Infected Mushroom]

not necessarily

why would you think that?

Yes necessarily.
When you have a really big hammer and noone to answer to then everyone looks like a nail.

I don't think so. Why would you assume that?

[Infected Mushroom]

I take comfort knowing I do not exist in such a Mary Sue Munchkin world.

then in my view your priorities are misplaced

[The Two Jerseys]

Yes necessarily.
When you have a really big hammer and noone to answer to then everyone looks like a nail.

I don't think so. Why would you assume that?

Because power corrupts.

[Infected Mushroom]

I don't think so. Why would you assume that?

Because power corrupts.

It depends on the person.

Sounds like an assumption.

[Jordkloden]

Considering, I recently finished watching Death Note, here's my take. At first, when I began watching the show several years ago, I fuckin' loved Kira. Kira was cool because he was an intelligent guy with no real friends who wanted to make the world a better place......At first anyway. Eventually, he became a total douchenozzle and started killing innocents and this and that. When I began to dislike Kira, I also acquired the opinion of being against the death penalty (most of the time) and against vigilante "justice" as well. Ultimately, I would be against Kira. He's a power-hungry megalomaniac and needs to be in stripes. Or

Lying down on a a stair case in a pool of his own blood.

[Dakini]

"Kira" is usually a woman's name...

Are you trying and failing to generalize something about a fictional story to avoid having this thread punted over to F7 or something?

[Gauthier]

"Kira" is usually a woman's name...

It's the phonetization of "killer".

Are you trying and failing to generalize something about a fictional story to avoid having this thread punted over to F7 or something?

Whoops, too late. Someone wrote this thread's name in the Arts and Fiction Note.