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The Intergalactic Universe Corporation
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Postby The Intergalactic Universe Corporation » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:38 am

Mattopilos wrote:
The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:When socialists say that they want zero income inequality, and they cannot answer when asked if a person would be bothered to work hard if they get paid regardless of effort.


I can answer that: they wouldn't be paid without effort. You are using some kind of misconception of socialism as a basis for your views. You also assume monetary wealth is the only driving force for work.

Sorry, it is communism that pays everyone equally regardless of effort, sorry about that...
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Postby Mattopilos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:38 am

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:When communists say that communism works and capitalism is an inherent failure


Few communists say that. We say capitalism is corrupt and we are against the unbalanced greed inherent in the system, and want a system that allows maximum greed for all. At least, that is what anarcho-communists say.
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Postby Esparmuran » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:39 am

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Postby Mattopilos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:40 am

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
I can answer that: they wouldn't be paid without effort. You are using some kind of misconception of socialism as a basis for your views. You also assume monetary wealth is the only driving force for work.

Sorry, it is communism that pays everyone equally regardless of effort, sorry about that...


Kinda... certain schools of communism do, some don't.
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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:43 am

Like 80% of the posts in General.
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Postby The Intergalactic Universe Corporation » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:43 am

Mattopilos wrote:
The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:Sorry, it is communism that pays everyone equally regardless of effort, sorry about that...


Kinda... certain schools of communism do, some don't.

Most do right? Can you name me some that don't?
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Postby Mattopilos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:44 am

Free Outer Eugenia wrote:Like 80% of the posts in General.


Not wrong.
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Postby Mattopilos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:44 am

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
Kinda... certain schools of communism do, some don't.

Most do right? Can you name me some that don't?


Anarcho-collectivism is communistic in all but name - it uses wages.
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Postby The Intergalactic Universe Corporation » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:45 am

Mattopilos wrote:
The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:When communists say that communism works and capitalism is an inherent failure


Few communists say that. We say capitalism is corrupt and we are against the unbalanced greed inherent in the system, and want a system that allows maximum greed for all. At least, that is what anarcho-communists say.

Yeah, anarcho-communism is the only communist school of thought that I am neutral with
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Postby Faschist Deutsch Reich » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:47 am

What also makes me cringe is when people bicker about petty matters, rather than keeping their discussions relevant to the topic at hand. Last time I checked, this thread wasn't about ideology.
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Postby Streonian Urdaria » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:47 am

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Postby The Intergalactic Universe Corporation » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:48 am

I dislike people who get upset over some simple joke made about them.
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Postby Veceria » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:52 am

People using the word "cringe" unironically.
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Postby The Intergalactic Universe Corporation » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:53 am

The Democratic Party (USA),

The Labour Party (UK),

The Green Party (UK),

The Green Party (USA),

The Social Democratic Party (Germany),

The Socialist Party (France)
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:55 am

NSG.
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I'm going to the libary.
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Postby Faschist Deutsch Reich » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:59 am

Veceria wrote:People using the word "cringe" unironically.

"Cringe" is undoubtedly one of the most overused word in recent times. "Cancer" wouldn't be too far behind either. As much as I hate to admit it, I'm guilty of overusing both these words.

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May I know the reason?
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Postby Mattopilos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:04 am

The Boras wrote:Looking in the mirror.


At least you have Kanade on your flag - something to be proud of.
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Postby Blakullar » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:05 am

There's a piece of dialogue in an RP I wrote up once that makes me wonder what the fuck I was smoking when I wrote it every time I have the misfortune of seeing it. I believe it was in the order of "relax buddy, I just broke him in, that's all".

Fortunately, the character who spoke it has been greatly refined since that dark day, and you will not find her saying such a thing again!

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Bloody hell, what doesn't make you cringe?!
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