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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:15 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote: Also the mecha design is good.

If you're blind, maybe. But I'm not. Those things are completely retarded looking.

I was meh at first but they've grown on me after seeing them in motion. They're reminiscent of Diesbuster.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:19 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:FranXX has none of that, what you talkin bout?

Stupid mech designs.
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Obnoxious characters.
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Over-reliance on fanservice.
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It's garbage.

>Says claim
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What did he mean by this?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:23 am

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Ameriganastan wrote:If you're blind, maybe. But I'm not. Those things are completely retarded looking.

I was meh at first but they've grown on me after seeing them in motion. They're reminiscent of Diesbuster.

They. Look. STUPID. I mean, cripes. They have FACES.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:25 am

To be fair, most mech designs are stupid. Maybe excepting the tachikoma, the exo-suits in FLAG, or the construction things in Patlabor.
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Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:FranXX has none of that, what you talkin bout?

Stupid mech designs.
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Obnoxious characters.
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Over-reliance on fanservice.
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It's garbage.

Mech designs are meh, characters I haven’t seen, fanservice is...yeahhhhhh...
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:31 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>Says claim
>Cites evidence that refutes claim
What did he mean by this?

...So you're just in denial. Gotcha.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:35 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I was meh at first but they've grown on me after seeing them in motion. They're reminiscent of Diesbuster.

They. Look. STUPID. I mean, cripes. They have FACES.

And? A face does not preclude good mecha design. I'm curious as to what you consider good mecha design.

Las Palmeras wrote:To be fair, most mech designs are stupid. Maybe excepting the tachikoma, the exo-suits in FLAG, or the construction things in Patlabor.
...I'll go crawl back inside Rumi's Pershing tank and shut up now...

The AV-98 Ingram is one of the best designs out there. Probably my second favorite after Kazutaka Miyatake's design for Starship Trooper's power armor.
FLAG's design didn't do much for me if you're talking about this FLAG. Like the rest of the show I found the mechanical design utterly mediocre. Pity because the concept was good.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:36 am

The Corparation wrote:And? A face does not preclude good mecha design. I'm curious as to what you consider good mecha design.

Something that actually LOOKS LIKE A MECH. Not a giant crime against good design.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:39 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:And? A face does not preclude good mecha design. I'm curious as to what you consider good mecha design.

Something that actually LOOKS LIKE A MECH. Not a giant crime against good design.

But they look like mecha....
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:46 am

The Corparation wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Something that actually LOOKS LIKE A MECH. Not a giant crime against good design.

But they look like mecha....

No, they don't. Especially the pink one. They look like weird, giant people things.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Las Palmeras » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:49 am

The Corparation wrote:The AV-98 Ingram is one of the best designs out there. Probably my second favorite after Kazutaka Miyatake's design for Starship Trooper's power armor.
FLAG's design didn't do much for me if you're talking about this FLAG. Like the rest of the show I found the mechanical design utterly mediocre. Pity because the concept was good.


Yeah, I meant that FLAG. Which at least seemed a bit better than...giant swords and oversized shoulder pads.
As for Patlabor; it's pretty hard saying no to something with riot gear. Or a Vulcan...though IIRC, the one with the rotating cannon was the JGSDF mech, not the Ingram, correct me if I'm wrong. That one actually reminded me a bit of the destroids in Macross/Robotech.
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Postby Lubyak » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:51 am

Fun fact! All of these things brought up (mech design looks retarded, etc.) are *drum roll* subjective! There is no objectively true or false answer to whether a mech design is 'retarded' as there is no objective way to measure that!

So, fair enough Ameri doesn't like an anime. What else is new? Though it is Trigger, so give him a few years, and he'll eventually watch it and begrudgingly admit it was good. just like Kill la Kill. So tsun.

In all seriousness though, the show is still in its very early stages. It's a 2 cour show, so I'm more than willing to give a bit more to really stretch its legs and show me what it's actually trying to be about. As much as its very fanservicey and its definitely going for a more super robot kinda deal than a more grounded 'realistic' setting, there are some things about the show that are intriguing me. I would love if this show goes on to say something about sexuality and differences, and it seems like it could well be laying the groundwork for that. Maybe it'll be shit, but I want to see this ride through to the end.

Also 02 is hot as fuck and tickles all my likes.

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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:52 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:But they look like mecha....

No, they don't. Especially the pink one. They look like weird, giant people things.

Amd some mecha look like giant people things. The designs in Franxx are not unprecedented. E.g. Diebuster.
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Postby Lubyak » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:52 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:But they look like mecha....

No, they don't. Especially the pink one. They look like weird, giant people things.


I'm pretty sure I've heard that same argument levelled at every show that has ever had a mech ever. Thankfully it's as 100% subjective argument, so shouting about it accomplishes nothing but making the thread more toxic! Yay!
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:55 am

Ameriganastan wrote:Gotcha.

Classic "I'll just take my ball and go home" response. Like pottery.
Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:But they look like mecha....

No, they don't. Especially the pink one. They look like weird, giant people things.

Half of mecha look like giant people things. The other half look like giant animal things and giant geometric things.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:56 am

Ameriganastan wrote:They look like weird, giant people things.


Isn't that very definition of mech?
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:57 am

Las Palmeras wrote:
The Corparation wrote:The AV-98 Ingram is one of the best designs out there. Probably my second favorite after Kazutaka Miyatake's design for Starship Trooper's power armor.
FLAG's design didn't do much for me if you're talking about this FLAG. Like the rest of the show I found the mechanical design utterly mediocre. Pity because the concept was good.


Yeah, I meant that FLAG. Which at least seemed a bit better than...giant swords and oversized shoulder pads.
As for Patlabor; it's pretty hard saying no to something with riot gear. Or a Vulcan...though IIRC, the one with the rotating cannon was the JGSDF mech, not the Ingram, correct me if I'm wrong. That one actually reminded me a bit of the destroids in Macross/Robotech.


The jsdg one was the helldiver, which is literally just a tacticool Ingram
The destroid was also designed by Miyatake. The guy is a God tier designer and probably one of the more influential people in the field.
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Lubyak wrote:Also 02 is hot as fuck and tickles all my likes.

Even your taste for dying after three fucks missions?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:01 am

Lubyak wrote:Fun fact! All of these things brought up (mech design looks retarded, etc.) are *drum roll* subjective! There is no objectively true or false answer to whether a mech design is 'retarded' as there is no objective way to measure that!

Says you.

Lubyak wrote:So, fair enough Ameri doesn't like an anime. What else is new? Though it is Trigger, so give him a few years, and he'll eventually watch it and begrudgingly admit it was good. just like Kill la Kill. So tsun.

Yeah, about that. I'm ready to call Trigger a one-hit wonder. They got it right with KLK. Everything else (Inferno Cop, Kiznaiver, LWA, Franxx) has been schlock.

Lubyak wrote:In all seriousness though, the show is still in its very early stages. It's a 2 cour show,

This dreck is seriously getting 2 cours? There really is no standards anymore.


Lubyak wrote:Also 02 is hot as fuck and tickles all my likes.

Cause what's not attractive about some generic "I'm so edgy" character...

The Corparation wrote:Amd some mecha look like giant people things. The designs in Franxx are not unprecedented. E.g. Diebuster.

Calling something "Unprecedented" doesn't make it look any less stupid.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:06 am

Ameriganastan wrote:[
The Corparation wrote:Amd some mecha look like giant people things. The designs in Franxx are not unprecedented. E.g. Diebuster.

Calling something "Unprecedented" doesn't make it look any less stupid.

FranXX look like mecha from previous works. Therefore you complaint of them not looking like mecha OS ridiculous.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:11 am

The Corparation wrote:FranXX look like mecha from previews works. Therefore you complaint of them not looking like mecha OS ridiculous.

This is a mech.
This is a mech.
This is a mech.
These are mechs.

Those things in Franxx are just giant results of a fever dream the artist clearly had.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:19 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:FranXX look like mecha from previews works. Therefore you complaint of them not looking like mecha OS ridiculous.

This is a mech.
This is a mech.
This is a mech.
These are mechs.

Those things in Franxx are just giant results of a fever dream the artist clearly had.


Look weird, giant people things to me.
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Postby Lubyak » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:21 am

Ameri is just one of those infuriating people who conflate their opinion with facts. This is a core reason why I try not to engage with him.

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Postby Cabana » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:27 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Stupid mech designs.
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Obnoxious characters.
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Over-reliance on fanservice.
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It's garbage.

>Says claim
>Cites evidence that refutes claim
What did he mean by this?
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Nobody said it will save anime tbh

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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:30 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Corparation wrote:FranXX look like mecha from previews works. Therefore you complaint of them not looking like mecha OS ridiculous.

This is a mech.
This is a mech.
This is a mech.
These are mechs.

Those things in Franxx are just giant results of a fever dream the artist clearly had.

So is this (Ignore the caption on this one. I don't have an image of it sans caption)
and this
And this
And this
and this.
And this
Just because they do not fit your idea of what a mecha should look like does not mean they do not look like mecha.
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