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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:55 am

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You know, the thing the anime starts as...


Haha.
I meant why assumption is that "source material sucks" instead of "adapters fucked on the way"?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:58 am

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Ameriganastan wrote:You know, the thing the anime starts as...


Haha.
I meant why assumption is that "source material sucks" instead of "adapters fucked on the way"?

I have heard nothing of that from the endless parade of people gushing over it. It's apparently a faithful translation from page to screen. Ipso facto, it'd be just as boring to read as it was to watch.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:35 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Oh my God, why is Magus Bride so BORING!? I think I'm done with it.

That's nice Ameri.
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Postby Nea Videssos » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:37 pm

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Ameriganastan wrote:Oh my God, why is Magus Bride so BORING!? I think I'm done with it.

That's nice Ameri.


Business as usual, it seems.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:06 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You anime fans are so whiny. Just read the manga.

Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

That's a ridiculously silly view. The quality of the source material is usually independent of the quality of the anime adaptation. Its possible for a good work to get a shitty anime adaptation. For example the Chaos;Head VN is a solid psychological thriller. The anime? A horror beyond your wildest nightmare.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:18 pm

Nea Videssos wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's nice Ameri.


Business as usual, it seems.

There must be a mathematical function to estimate the probability he'll like a show.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:53 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

That's a ridiculously silly view. The quality of the source material is usually independent of the quality of the anime adaptation. Its possible for a good work to get a shitty anime adaptation. For example the Chaos;Head VN is a solid psychological thriller. The anime? A horror beyond your wildest nightmare.

I disagree.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:30 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You anime fans are so whiny. Just read the manga.

Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

Oh, how mistaken you are.
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Postby Britanania » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

Oh, how mistaken you are.

See Berserk for your proof of it xD
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:03 pm

Britanania wrote:
New haven america wrote:Oh, how mistaken you are.

See Berserk for your proof of it xD

Or Tokyo Ghoul, or Gantz, or Jojo, or the tons upon tons of shitty OVA's from the 80's and 90's.

Anime has a history of turning good things bad.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

Oh, how mistaken you are.

I fail to see how. It even applies for regular books and such. The Hunger Games books sucked. Ergo, the movies would suck too. So I didn't watch them.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:06 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:Oh, how mistaken you are.

I fail to see how. It even applies for regular books and such. The Hunger Games books sucked. Ergo, the movies would suck too. So I didn't watch them.

Got it, you think Jojo sucks.
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Postby Risen Prussia » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:07 pm

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I fail to see how. It even applies for regular books and such. The Hunger Games books sucked. Ergo, the movies would suck too. So I didn't watch them.

Got it, you think Jojo sucks.

Stardust Crusaders, yeah. That season was hot garbage. Hence I'm not gonna read the manga it came from.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:12 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:Got it, you think Jojo sucks.

Stardust Crusaders, yeah. That season was hot garbage. Hence I'm not gonna read the manga it came from.

No, Jojo had a shitty OVA series released in the 90's and 2000, it sucked, hence by your logic, Jojo's manga and the 2012-2016 adaptation sucks.
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Postby Britanania » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Stardust Crusaders, yeah. That season was hot garbage. Hence I'm not gonna read the manga it came from.

No, Jojo had a shitty OVA series released in the 90's and 2000, it sucked, hence by your logic, Jojo's manga and the 2012-2016 adaptation sucks.

It's not that bad.

Okay, it's pretty bad
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Stardust Crusaders, yeah. That season was hot garbage. Hence I'm not gonna read the manga it came from.

No, Jojo had a shitty OVA series released in the 90's and 2000, it sucked, hence by your logic, Jojo's manga and the 2012-2016 adaptation sucks.

I never saw that OVA. Also never read the manga at all. Nice try with the straw-man fallacy though.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Britanania wrote:
New haven america wrote:No, Jojo had a shitty OVA series released in the 90's and 2000, it sucked, hence by your logic, Jojo's manga and the 2012-2016 adaptation sucks.

It's not that bad.

Okay, it's pretty bad

They didn't even bother to make it in chronological order.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:No, Jojo had a shitty OVA series released in the 90's and 2000, it sucked, hence by your logic, Jojo's manga and the 2012-2016 adaptation sucks.

I never saw that OVA. Also never read the manga at all. Nice try with the straw-man fallacy though.

It's not a strawman (People, please stop misusing those, they're very fragile), I'm using the logic you have presented us with. Jojo, had a crappy adaptation early on, hence the manga and later anime must also suck.

Unless you're saying that your earlier statement wasn't correct...?
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Postby Philjia » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Britanania wrote:See Berserk for your proof of it xD

Or Tokyo Ghoul, or Gantz, or Jojo, or the tons upon tons of shitty OVA's from the 80's and 90's.

Anime has a history of turning good things bad.

Tokyo Ghoul's manga is also bad. It's just not as bad as the anime.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I never saw that OVA. Also never read the manga at all. Nice try with the straw-man fallacy though.

It's not a strawman, I'm using the logic you have presented us with. Jojo, had a crappy adaptation early on, hence the manga and later anime must also suck.

Unless you're saying that your earlier statement wasn't correct...?

That's not what I said. It's real simple, and you're trying to twist it so you seem like you're right. I'll make it even simpler for you.

If I hate a manga, I'm not gonna watch the anime of it.
If I hate an anime, I'm not going back to read the source material.

Not that hard to get.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:30 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:It's not a strawman, I'm using the logic you have presented us with. Jojo, had a crappy adaptation early on, hence the manga and later anime must also suck.

Unless you're saying that your earlier statement wasn't correct...?

1.That's not what I said. It's real simple, and you're trying to twist it so you seem like you're right. I'll make it even simpler for you.

If I hate a manga, I'm not gonna watch the anime of it.
If I hate an anime, I'm not going back to read the source material.

Not that hard to get.

1. That is most definitely what you said:
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You anime fans are so whiny. Just read the manga.

Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:31 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:1.That's not what I said. It's real simple, and you're trying to twist it so you seem like you're right. I'll make it even simpler for you.

If I hate a manga, I'm not gonna watch the anime of it.
If I hate an anime, I'm not going back to read the source material.

Not that hard to get.

1. That is most definitely what you said:
Ameriganastan wrote:Why? If the anime sucks, I doubt the source material would be any better.

...Yeah, that's exactly what I just described. Right there clear as day. What about this is not registering to you?
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:48 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. That is most definitely what you said:

...Yeah, that's exactly what I just described. Right there clear as day. What about this is not registering to you?

No it's not, in that earlier claim you stated that adaptation quality is directly related to source material quality, and when presented with evidence to the contrary, you did the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "I can't here you."

In the second statement you made, you're saying that if you don't like one thing, you most likely won't like the other. That is a different claim, as it is more personal and doesn't try to claim that the quality of one thing is directly related to the quality of another.

How 'bout you take a break, collect your thoughts, and come back. K? Cool.
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