Which Anime are you watching or have watched recently IV?

[Nevertopia]

That's not an anime. Also, over here.

How is THIS not anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo3jIcAgnT0

RIGHT?!

[Tethys 13]

That's not an anime. Also, over here.

How is THIS not anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo3jIcAgnT0

'Anime' is a subset of the animation medium which can loosely be said to share a certain aesthetic but with many exceptions, and is often simply categorised as having originated in Japan. It is not a genre. It is not defined by the drama of its battles, for it does not have to contain battles at all.
That being said, I added Avatar: The Last Airbender to my persomal anime ranking on a whim, so I do not care that much about it. I also find My Little Pony mostly entertaining, but I would advise you follow the link provided if you want to discuss it further.

[Nevertopia]

How is THIS not anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo3jIcAgnT0

'Anime' is a subset of the animation medium which can loosely be said to share a certain aesthetic but with many exceptions, and is often simply categorised as having originated in Japan. It is not a genre. It is not defined by the drama of its battles, for it does not have to contain battles at all.
That being said, I added Avatar: The Last Airbender to my persomal anime ranking on a whim, so I do not care that much about it. I also find My Little Pony mostly entertaining, but I would advise you follow the link provided if you want to discuss it further.

i disagree, anime is a genre.

[Tethys 13]

i disagree, anime is a genre.

On what basis? Would you consider 'Live-Action Television' a genre? I find it difficult to think of Berserk and Haikyuu or K-on being the same genre. However, we may be using different definitions in this case - genre as a word can refer to any type of communication with socially agreed-upon conventions (and, now that I think about it, this conversation began as disagreeing about those conventions). However, it began as a way of classifying literature into comedy, tragedy etcetera, and that was my meaning when I used the word. Anime has many such genres of its own (shoujo, shounen, seinen etcetera, though they simply refer to the target audience) but in my eyes it is very much a medium, not a genre. I would be interested to hear your take on it, however.

[Nevertopia]

i disagree, anime is a genre.

On what basis? Would you consider 'Live-Action Television' a genre? I find it difficult to think of Berserk and Haikyuu or K-on being the same genre. However, we may be using different definitions in this case - genre as a word can refer to any type of communication with socially agreed-upon conventions (and, now that I think about it, this conversation began as disagreeing about those conventions). However, it began as a way of classifying literature into comedy, tragedy etcetera, and that was my meaning when I used the word. Anime has many such genres of its own (shoujo, shounen, seinen etcetera, though they simply refer to the target audience) but in my eyes it is very much a medium, not a genre. I would be interested to hear your take on it, however.

anime isnt just a medium, its a specific artstyle with a distinct theme and tropes. Shoujo, shounen, seinen etc are subgenres in the anime genre much like there are many subgenres in the superhero genre in current popculture. Theres a difference between Capt America and James bond movies despite them at their core being spygames films.

[Tethys 13]

On what basis? Would you consider 'Live-Action Television' a genre? I find it difficult to think of Berserk and Haikyuu or K-on being the same genre. However, we may be using different definitions in this case - genre as a word can refer to any type of communication with socially agreed-upon conventions (and, now that I think about it, this conversation began as disagreeing about those conventions). However, it began as a way of classifying literature into comedy, tragedy etcetera, and that was my meaning when I used the word. Anime has many such genres of its own (shoujo, shounen, seinen etcetera, though they simply refer to the target audience) but in my eyes it is very much a medium, not a genre. I would be interested to hear your take on it, however.

anime isnt just a medium, its a specific artstyle with a distinct theme and tropes. Shoujo, shounen, seinen etc are subgenres in the anime genre much like there are many subgenres in the superhero genre in current popculture. Theres a difference between Capt America and James bond movies despite them at their core being spygames films.

But while Golgo 13 would be an anime of the spy genre, Nichijou is not. The two have almost nothing in common, thematically or in art style, with their only link being that they are both of the anime medium. Even taking the same genres - for example, Occult Adventure Fantasy Horror - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hellsing Ultimate are still different in art style. If you put characters from Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku, Soul Eater, Ascendance of a Bookworm, Drifters, Lucky Star, Afro Samurai, No Game No Life and Gurren Lagann in an image together, you would clearly be able to see that they are all from different things, even just in their faces. On the matter of tropes, while it is wrong to tar them all with the same brush, it is natural to see similar themes in the works of a particular culture, and easier to see them from the outside - think of all of the tropes that apply to American or British creations. I am sure that some people from other countries would look at them and be tempted to unite them under a single genre.
I think my problem with calling anime a genre primarily stems from how some people speak of it. Saying things like 'that is very anime' or 'anime is awful' works as an opinion of a genre (if a blinkered one) but does not work as an opinion of a medium. When I challenge people on their dislike of anime as a whole, they say things like 'the art style' though anime has no one defining art style, or 'the stupid plots' though some anime are genius journeys in intrigue, or 'because it is for kids' though that is just blatant nonsense given the number of anime series completely unsuitable for children, such as Berserk.
Perhaps it is just a personal quibble of mine, but I hope I have explained my point of view clearly at least.

[Las Palmeras]

Uhhh....nice discussion.

Also. It's half an hour to 3:00 AM and I'm watching Dennou Coil, which I dropped ages ago but just now remembered.

[Tethys 13]

I started three new series a few weeks ago - King of High School and Monster Girl Doctor, which I stopped following after two episodes, and Misfit of Demon Academy, which is brilliant so far.
King of High School certainly has spectacular visuals and quirky characters, but did not really grip me. I think I will go back and watch it properly at some point, likely after it has finished its run (assuming that it is a standard 12 to 24 episode show).
I had very much hoped that Monster Girl Doctor would be similar to the superb Interviews with Monster Girls, but instead sadly it seemed highly derivative of Daily Life With Monster Girls, a series I have been shown scenes from that I accept are good character writing (the drinks scene in particular) but do not like simply because I have never liked smut.
Misfit of Demon Academy is excellent. I recently saw the youtube channel 'Mother's Basement' release a video about it, and I agree with what they said - it is not up to the level of One Punch Man yet, but it is hilarious, satisfying and surprisingly deep. Plus, it has yet to be overly perverted, which earns it a gold star!

[Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley]

I've been watching the World God Only Knows, which I had sadly never heard of before about a week ago. While the show, as a whole, is pretty good, the main protagonist easily gets a 9.5/10 in my book.

[Nevertopia]

anime isnt just a medium, its a specific artstyle with a distinct theme and tropes. Shoujo, shounen, seinen etc are subgenres in the anime genre much like there are many subgenres in the superhero genre in current popculture. Theres a difference between Capt America and James bond movies despite them at their core being spygames films.

But while Golgo 13 would be an anime of the spy genre, Nichijou is not. The two have almost nothing in common, thematically or in art style, with their only link being that they are both of the anime medium. Even taking the same genres - for example, Occult Adventure Fantasy Horror - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hellsing Ultimate are still different in art style. If you put characters from Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku, Soul Eater, Ascendance of a Bookworm, Drifters, Lucky Star, Afro Samurai, No Game No Life and Gurren Lagann in an image together, you would clearly be able to see that they are all from different things, even just in their faces. On the matter of tropes, while it is wrong to tar them all with the same brush, it is natural to see similar themes in the works of a particular culture, and easier to see them from the outside - think of all of the tropes that apply to American or British creations. I am sure that some people from other countries would look at them and be tempted to unite them under a single genre.
I think my problem with calling anime a genre primarily stems from how some people speak of it. Saying things like 'that is very anime' or 'anime is awful' works as an opinion of a genre (if a blinkered one) but does not work as an opinion of a medium. When I challenge people on their dislike of anime as a whole, they say things like 'the art style' though anime has no one defining art style, or 'the stupid plots' though some anime are genius journeys in intrigue, or 'because it is for kids' though that is just blatant nonsense given the number of anime series completely unsuitable for children, such as Berserk.
Perhaps it is just a personal quibble of mine, but I hope I have explained my point of view clearly at least.

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

Only if "American live-action movies" is a genre.

Just like Star Wars and Home Alone are obviously different genres, so are Nichijou and Psycho-Pass.

[New haven america]

On what basis? Would you consider 'Live-Action Television' a genre? I find it difficult to think of Berserk and Haikyuu or K-on being the same genre. However, we may be using different definitions in this case - genre as a word can refer to any type of communication with socially agreed-upon conventions (and, now that I think about it, this conversation began as disagreeing about those conventions). However, it began as a way of classifying literature into comedy, tragedy etcetera, and that was my meaning when I used the word. Anime has many such genres of its own (shoujo, shounen, seinen etcetera, though they simply refer to the target audience) but in my eyes it is very much a medium, not a genre. I would be interested to hear your take on it, however.

anime isnt just a medium, its a specific artstyle with a distinct theme and tropes. Shoujo, shounen, seinen etc are subgenres in the anime genre much like there are many subgenres in the superhero genre in current popculture. Theres a difference between Capt America and James bond movies despite them at their core being spygames films.

This is a terrible explanation.

[Nevertopia]

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

Only if "American live-action movies" is a genre.

Just like Star Wars and Home Alone are obviously different genres, so are Nichijou and Psycho-Pass.

american live-action movies is a genre on its own. Watch the original versions of The grudge and watch the americanized version of it if you dont believe me.

[Tethys 13]

But while Golgo 13 would be an anime of the spy genre, Nichijou is not. The two have almost nothing in common, thematically or in art style, with their only link being that they are both of the anime medium. Even taking the same genres - for example, Occult Adventure Fantasy Horror - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hellsing Ultimate are still different in art style. If you put characters from Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku, Soul Eater, Ascendance of a Bookworm, Drifters, Lucky Star, Afro Samurai, No Game No Life and Gurren Lagann in an image together, you would clearly be able to see that they are all from different things, even just in their faces. On the matter of tropes, while it is wrong to tar them all with the same brush, it is natural to see similar themes in the works of a particular culture, and easier to see them from the outside - think of all of the tropes that apply to American or British creations. I am sure that some people from other countries would look at them and be tempted to unite them under a single genre.
I think my problem with calling anime a genre primarily stems from how some people speak of it. Saying things like 'that is very anime' or 'anime is awful' works as an opinion of a genre (if a blinkered one) but does not work as an opinion of a medium. When I challenge people on their dislike of anime as a whole, they say things like 'the art style' though anime has no one defining art style, or 'the stupid plots' though some anime are genius journeys in intrigue, or 'because it is for kids' though that is just blatant nonsense given the number of anime series completely unsuitable for children, such as Berserk.
Perhaps it is just a personal quibble of mine, but I hope I have explained my point of view clearly at least.

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

I see that it was naïve for me to hope for an actual discussion. I allowed your previous comment to feed my optimism.

[South Odreria 2]

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

I see that it was naïve for me to hope for an actual discussion. I allowed your previous comment to feed my optimism.

If anime isn’t a genre then why have I only watched dbz and naruto?

[Ameriganastan]

Turns out two things I usually find insufferable (Rumiko Takahashi stuff and Dorohedoro) are much more tolerable in manga form.

[Cadonica]

But while Golgo 13 would be an anime of the spy genre, Nichijou is not. The two have almost nothing in common, thematically or in art style, with their only link being that they are both of the anime medium. Even taking the same genres - for example, Occult Adventure Fantasy Horror - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hellsing Ultimate are still different in art style. If you put characters from Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku, Soul Eater, Ascendance of a Bookworm, Drifters, Lucky Star, Afro Samurai, No Game No Life and Gurren Lagann in an image together, you would clearly be able to see that they are all from different things, even just in their faces. On the matter of tropes, while it is wrong to tar them all with the same brush, it is natural to see similar themes in the works of a particular culture, and easier to see them from the outside - think of all of the tropes that apply to American or British creations. I am sure that some people from other countries would look at them and be tempted to unite them under a single genre.
I think my problem with calling anime a genre primarily stems from how some people speak of it. Saying things like 'that is very anime' or 'anime is awful' works as an opinion of a genre (if a blinkered one) but does not work as an opinion of a medium. When I challenge people on their dislike of anime as a whole, they say things like 'the art style' though anime has no one defining art style, or 'the stupid plots' though some anime are genius journeys in intrigue, or 'because it is for kids' though that is just blatant nonsense given the number of anime series completely unsuitable for children, such as Berserk.
Perhaps it is just a personal quibble of mine, but I hope I have explained my point of view clearly at least.

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

That's so disgustingly weeb thing to say it almost physically hurts.

Anime comes in so many different styles that calling them a genre as a whole makes absolutely no sense. Referring to Japanese animation as anime is perfectly fine.

Furthermore in Japanese if it's animated it's anime. Whether it's 2D, 3D, Japanese, American or German makes no difference. Go tell them anime is a genre, I double dare you. You'll just get "anime is a genre just like live-action". Because geographical location or language doesn't magically change genres.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Uhhh....nice discussion.

Also. It's half an hour to 3:00 AM and I'm watching Dennou Coil, which I dropped ages ago but just now remembered.

Oh good choice. That was a really good series.

[Maichuko]

I've been seeing some clips from Girls Und Panzer Das Finale on youtube and noticed they added a bunch of new schools. I think the Australian school with a Koala commander might be my favorite minor team. Anzio fighting the Poles was really funny.

[Las Palmeras]

Uhhh....nice discussion.

Also. It's half an hour to 3:00 AM and I'm watching Dennou Coil, which I dropped ages ago but just now remembered.

Oh good choice. That was a really good series.

The style is a bit noteworthy too. That's what caught my eye in the first place.

[Nevertopia]

youre wrong, anime IS a genre.

I see that it was naïve for me to hope for an actual discussion. I allowed your previous comment to feed my optimism.

agree to disagree.

[Fedel]

The first 38 seconds of this video sums up my thoughts on the "anime" discussion tbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkdokuY ... .be&end=38

[Sanghyeok]

Not an anime, but playing White Album VN.

[Nevertopia]

The first 38 seconds of this video sums up my thoughts on the "anime" discussion tbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkdokuY ... .be&end=38

what tethys doesnt understand is anime is an art style, an aesthetic and genre rolled into one with branching subthemes.

[Tethys 13]

The first 38 seconds of this video sums up my thoughts on the "anime" discussion tbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkdokuY ... .be&end=38

what tethys doesnt understand is anime is an art style, an aesthetic and genre rolled into one with branching subthemes.

If you are going to completely ignore my points rather than provide counter-arguments, please do not condescend about me in the third person - it is very rude. A solid portion of my previous comment was regarding the matter of art styles.