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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:23 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.

If you look up Kings Game if your looking to waste hours into your life. Seriously that death game anime was so bad, it puts bad anime to shame.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:28 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.


Battle Royale, you say? Out of the entire franchise, Hitoshi Tomizawa's manga was the most memorable for me because his really cutsey style is really dissonant with the setting. And because Tomizawa is just really weird on a whole.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:45 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.

If you look up Kings Game if your looking to waste hours into your life. Seriously that death game anime was so bad, it puts bad anime to shame.


That sounds lovely :lol:

Angel Beats especially was just boring though. People die but they don't die?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:14 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:If you look up Kings Game if your looking to waste hours into your life. Seriously that death game anime was so bad, it puts bad anime to shame.


That sounds lovely :lol:

Angel Beats especially was just boring though. People die but they don't die?

I mean I've seen Angel Beats. It is definitely boring, but it was nowhere as painful as seeing Kings Game. Like I can tolerate wasting my time on Angel Beats, but Ill always be pissed that I wasted my time on Kings Game.

Its indescribable how predictable and tropey kings game is. I'm confident that their was absolutely no character development. Just anime characters, made to die, without any real incentive to care. I guess thats the norm in the death game anime genre, but to me its like it was cranked up to x10. Honestly should be made a example of what not to do. The plot was also laughable, heres a spoiler tag for those who dont want to be spoiled, but theres nothing their to gleam from the show.

Apparently the game is a virus, that started in a village back in edo japan, and then it spreaded to the internet. Because viruses can do that. Im not making this shit up. Thats how braindead bad it is. And apparently the plague is like some 400 iq entity that has ambitions to end all humanity.
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Watched End of Evangelion. It actually makes me appreciate the original ending a little bit more, as I think both are part of the same creative vision. The original ending being a hopeful conclusion to Shinji's arc, and End reframing his arc as a tragic downward spiral.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:33 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Watched End of Evangelion. It actually makes me appreciate the original ending a little bit more, as I think both are part of the same creative vision. The original ending being a hopeful conclusion to Shinji's arc, and End reframing his arc as a tragic downward spiral.


I used to think the finale was symbolically about about Jungian death or something like that. But I generally quit trying to comprehend what the Third Impact was.
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Postby Fedel » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:19 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Watched End of Evangelion. It actually makes me appreciate the original ending a little bit more, as I think both are part of the same creative vision. The original ending being a hopeful conclusion to Shinji's arc, and End reframing his arc as a tragic downward spiral.


The last two episodes of the original series was supposed to represent the metaphysical portion of Instrumentality ( Shinji coming to terms with his personal trauma in End of Evangelion and choosing to live as an individual and re-assume physical form ). The ending of EoE is actually meant to be hopeful, at least imo.

Shinji initially wants to recede back into his old self and does so by choking Asuka since, due to Instrumentality, she knows everything he did including what he did over her while she was in a coma ( thus the "how disgusting" line ). The line itself however is delivered without any actual malice and she actually strokes his face comfortingly while saying it. All human beings who have chosen to rise above the collective sea of human consciousness and re-assume their individuality still experienced Instrumentality and, as a result, completely understood all other beings at the time. With this understanding comes a lack of judgement.

Shinji's decision to choke her before letting go is symbolic of the fact that, as human beings, we will continue to struggle and at times fail, but that we can choose to get back up afterwards and move forward. That's how I've always chosen to interpret that scene anyways. Don't know if anybody shares that view.
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Postby Fedel » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:26 pm

Just to preempt Ameri: "Lol, what a stupid fanfic theory for a garbage show."
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:35 pm

Baltenstein wrote:Can anyone recommend a good WW1 or WW2 anime? Most anime series on the matter I've seen seem to have a parallel universe setting rather than taking place in our Real World timeline.

Tombstone for Fireflies,The Glass Rabbit,Animentari Ketsudan :p
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Postby Fedel » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:50 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:Can anyone recommend a good WW1 or WW2 anime? Most anime series on the matter I've seen seem to have a parallel universe setting rather than taking place in our Real World timeline.

Tombstone for Fireflies


Just to clarify, are you referring to Grave of the Fireflies? If so, I second that recommendation.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:51 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.

How is it a death game? Also, from what I remember of it (watched it a while ago), it's about coming to terms with your faults as a human being and moving on.

That's the purpose of that school purgatory-like plane of existence, after all. All our characters died young, and thus missed out in one way or another, and they have to come to terms with the life that they had.

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Postby Britanania » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:51 pm

Fedel wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Tombstone for Fireflies


Just to clarify, are you referring to Grave of the Fireflies? If so, I second that recommendation.

It's the 2008 live action version of Hotaru no haka
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Postby Fedel » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:53 pm

Britanania wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Just to clarify, are you referring to Grave of the Fireflies? If so, I second that recommendation.

It's the 2008 live action version of Hotaru no haka


Interesting. I had no idea such a thing existed. I'll definitely give it a look.

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:04 pm

Britanania wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Just to clarify, are you referring to Grave of the Fireflies? If so, I second that recommendation.

It's the 2008 live action version of Hotaru no haka

I mean Grave of the Fireflies.火垂るの墓(Hotaru no haka) Is the English name of animation and live version different?
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:18 pm

Fedel wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Watched End of Evangelion. It actually makes me appreciate the original ending a little bit more, as I think both are part of the same creative vision. The original ending being a hopeful conclusion to Shinji's arc, and End reframing his arc as a tragic downward spiral.


The last two episodes of the original series was supposed to represent the metaphysical portion of Instrumentality ( Shinji coming to terms with his personal trauma in End of Evangelion and choosing to live as an individual and re-assume physical form ). The ending of EoE is actually meant to be hopeful, at least imo.

Shinji initially wants to recede back into his old self and does so by choking Asuka since, due to Instrumentality, she knows everything he did including what he did over her while she was in a coma ( thus the "how disgusting" line ). The line itself however is delivered without any actual malice and she actually strokes his face comfortingly while saying it. All human beings who have chosen to rise above the collective sea of human consciousness and re-assume their individuality still experienced Instrumentality and, as a result, completely understood all other beings at the time. With this understanding comes a lack of judgement.

Shinji's decision to choke her before letting go is symbolic of the fact that, as human beings, we will continue to struggle and at times fail, but that we can choose to get back up afterwards and move forward. That's how I've always chosen to interpret that scene anyways. Don't know if anybody shares that view.

You know, as I watched some essays about Evangelion, what struck me was the variety of interpretations regarding the connection between the original ending and EoE.
Some people consider EoE to be expanding on the same arc as in the show, and taking place in the same timeline, as you said. Some considered them to be two sides of a coin - a bad ending and a good one, as I said. One YouTuber considered EoE to be a condemnation of otaku culture, and particularly a response to the fan reaction to the original ending, with Shinji being a stand-in for the audience's worst impulses.

I can understand the rationale for all of those interpretations, though at the very least, I found the overall tone of the two endings hard to reconcile.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:18 pm

Fedel wrote:Just to preempt Ameri: "Lol, what a stupid fanfic theory for a garbage show."

I wasn't gonna say that.
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Postby Britanania » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:21 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Britanania wrote:It's the 2008 live action version of Hotaru no haka

I mean Grave of the Fireflies.火垂るの墓(Hotaru no haka) Is the English name of animation and live version different?

The English confusingly translates the animated film as "Grave of the Fireflies" and the 2008 live-action as "Tombstone of the Fireflies." I'm not entirely sure why
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Postby Fedel » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:29 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Fedel wrote:Just to preempt Ameri: "Lol, what a stupid fanfic theory for a garbage show."

I wasn't gonna say that.


Honestly, I appreciate that Ameri.

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Postby Tethys 13 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:11 am

Duvniask wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.

How is it a death game? Also, from what I remember of it (watched it a while ago), it's about coming to terms with your faults as a human being and moving on.

That's the purpose of that school purgatory-like plane of existence, after all. All our characters died young, and thus missed out in one way or another, and they have to come to terms with the life that they had.


I very much enjoyed Angel Beats, but that ending was another one that made me cry almost as much as a One Piece character backstory.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:02 am

Duvniask wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Angel Beats is a weird-ass pointless show, really just another in the long line of death game animes that are trendy but don't have much substance to them, a la Battle Royale. Nowadays the trendy genre is Isekai, and very briefly... The MMO anime. Ugh.

How is it a death game? Also, from what I remember of it (watched it a while ago), it's about coming to terms with your faults as a human being and moving on.

That's the purpose of that school purgatory-like plane of existence, after all. All our characters died young, and thus missed out in one way or another, and they have to come to terms with the life that they had.


I thought it was about accepting death and about reincarnation so... Yeah. The show's message isn't exactly forthcoming.

Also, it's about a bunch of one-note teenagers "surviving" a bunch of obstacles put down by their judge and arbiter, who is an angel who is not an angel, trying to return to their past lives taken too soon from them and solving the mystery of what happened to them to begin with.
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Postby Nevertopia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:26 am

wtf even is the Neon Genesis Evangelion REbuild series?! Is Shinji gay?! Why is that Angel a boy?! Why is he helping humanity and gay with Shinji?! Why did Asuka stop aging? Why didnt they just tell Shinji wtf happened instead of dragging it out for the entire movie?! Who the hell entrusts the fate of the world to a 14yr old kid with severe depression and crippling anxiety?!
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Postby Fedel » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:51 am

Never watched the Rebuilds.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:56 am

Nevertopia wrote:1. wtf even is the Neon Genesis Evangelion REbuild series?! 2. Is Shinji gay?! 3. Why is that Angel a boy?! 4. Why is he helping humanity and gay with Shinji?! 5. Why did Asuka stop aging? 6. Why didnt they just tell Shinji wtf happened instead of dragging it out for the entire movie?! 7. Who the hell entrusts the fate of the world to a 14yr old kid with severe depression and crippling anxiety?!

1. Anno remaking Eva to be more update and in line with what he originally wanted without budget constraints or depression.
2. No, not at all. Hell, in the Netflix redub execs from Khara actually went out of their way to make sure Shinji and Kaworu had a case of the Not Gays.
3. Kaworu's always been #17.
4. Refer to point 2
5. LCL in the rebuilds apparently stops aging.
6. Because they're not that well written.
7. I mean, that happens a lot in mech shows anyway.
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