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How do you game?

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23%
PC
439
40%
Arcade
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4%
Mobile
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Anything and Everything
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:22 pm

So I just finished Mass Effect: Andromeda and despite its flaws I'd have to say it is my favourite Mass Effect and might be my favourite Sci Fi RPG. I think I could even place it in my Top 5 games. I haven't played ME2 though, and I've heard many say that might be the best Mass Effect so that could change in the future.

And this had me thinking about how generally people seem to really dislike where Bioware is going in terms of direction and generally how they're not the same quality of studio that made stuff like Baldurs Gate and even as late as stuff like Dragon Age: Origins. But damn it I way prefer current Bioware games over there old stuff. Dragon Age: Inquisition is my favourite Fantasy RPG and I way prefer playing that to Origins or Baldurs Gate and Andromeda is an improvement on the Mass Effect 3/Dragon Age: Inquisition base.

I guess I hav egotten use to living on the other side of the tracks from a lot of popular opinion. First with liking Ace Combat: Assault Horizon, then liking Ghost Recon: Future Soldier, then liking Total War: Rome II and disliking Shogun II, and now liking Mass Effect: Andromeda more than any other game.
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Postby Abserdia » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:24 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:I haven't played ME2 though

There's your problem.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:28 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:I haven't played ME2 though

There's your problem.


I did say that my favourite Sci Fi RPG and Mass Effect game could change since I haven't played ME2. But even if it did supplant Andromeda then Andromeda would still be 2nd.

Besides, with how amazing combat is in Andromeda and how it seems to be an evolution from 3 which was an evolution of 2 then it must have some stellar attributes outside the combat.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:32 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Tales from the Borderlands is a much superior game to Telltale Game of Thrones.

Then again, I find Game of Thrones uninteresting and this game seems to have already made it clear that I shouldn't care, because horrible things are gonna happen no matter what.

Like, there was an option that no matter what you did, it lead to death.


I really have to disagree, although that might be because I really don't care about Borderlands or anything to do with the franchise. Looter Shooters of the absurd degree Borderlands was (and how I really dislike loot in games in general) really put me off the whole franchise and all things related. Plus the worldbuilding I found to be trying way too hard.

For me TellTale GoT had me on the edge of my seat. It was like playing a whole extra season of the show.

Worldbuilding in borderlands is just another joke. It's rather basic.

Why should I get attached to the characters when no matter what happens, terrible shit happens, they die or shit? Hell, Mira segment could be cut out entirely and nothing would be changed. Because the shit you tried to do just gets brought down easier then stealing from an infirm grandma with arthritis.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:37 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
I really have to disagree, although that might be because I really don't care about Borderlands or anything to do with the franchise. Looter Shooters of the absurd degree Borderlands was (and how I really dislike loot in games in general) really put me off the whole franchise and all things related. Plus the worldbuilding I found to be trying way too hard.

For me TellTale GoT had me on the edge of my seat. It was like playing a whole extra season of the show.

Worldbuilding in borderlands is just another joke. It's rather basic.

Why should I get attached to the characters when no matter what happens, terrible shit happens, they die or shit? Hell, Mira segment could be cut out entirely and nothing would be changed. Because the shit you tried to do just gets brought down easier then stealing from an infirm grandma with arthritis.


Because it was engaging was why I got attached to the characters. For me GoT TellTale is all about the journey rather than the destination, and I was more than happy to just take that journey.

Besides, the whole GoT themes have a significant "Bad shit happens to good people just as much if not more than bad people." I'm happy to wallow in that for awhile. Besides it makes any comeback so much sweeter than it would've been when you've seen a family be brought to its absolute breaking point and holding on despite it all.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:42 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Worldbuilding in borderlands is just another joke. It's rather basic.

Why should I get attached to the characters when no matter what happens, terrible shit happens, they die or shit? Hell, Mira segment could be cut out entirely and nothing would be changed. Because the shit you tried to do just gets brought down easier then stealing from an infirm grandma with arthritis.


Because it was engaging was why I got attached to the characters. For me GoT TellTale is all about the journey rather than the destination, and I was more than happy to just take that journey.

Besides, the whole GoT themes have a significant "Bad shit happens to good people just as much if not more than bad people." I'm happy to wallow in that for awhile. Besides it makes any comeback so much sweeter than it would've been when you've seen a family be brought to its absolute breaking point and holding on despite it all.

And when the destination is 'rock falls, everyone dies' the journey feels worthless and I feel like I wasted my time for caring enough to try and be 'good'.

Your families castle is destroyed and conquered, your mother is killed, many of your allies are dead, and your character is heavily wounded.

That's not a comeback, that's a spiteful GM trying to be 'dark' and giving his players the middle finger.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:50 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Because it was engaging was why I got attached to the characters. For me GoT TellTale is all about the journey rather than the destination, and I was more than happy to just take that journey.

Besides, the whole GoT themes have a significant "Bad shit happens to good people just as much if not more than bad people." I'm happy to wallow in that for awhile. Besides it makes any comeback so much sweeter than it would've been when you've seen a family be brought to its absolute breaking point and holding on despite it all.

And when the destination is 'rock falls, everyone dies' the journey feels worthless and I feel like I wasted my time for caring enough to try and be 'good'.

Your families castle is destroyed and conquered, your mother is killed, many of your allies are dead, and your character is heavily wounded.

That's not a comeback, that's a spiteful GM trying to be 'dark' and giving his players the middle finger.


Well I can't change how you feel. Just for me their slow descent into annihilation was a story I found incredibly fascinating and felt privileged to take part in, and seeing how these characters (and by extension myself) dealt with circumstances that spiraled ever further beyond their control.

And I never said the end was a comeback. I just said that it makes any comeback sweeter, however minor. Which I imagine is what Season 2 will be focused on.

If you felt the journey was worthless because of the destination that we'll have to agree to disagree. The journey in and of itself is what makes it worthwhile for me.
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Postby Abserdia » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:54 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Abserdia wrote:There's your problem.


I did say that my favourite Sci Fi RPG and Mass Effect game could change since I haven't played ME2. But even if it did supplant Andromeda then Andromeda would still be 2nd.

Besides, with how amazing combat is in Andromeda and how it seems to be an evolution from 3 which was an evolution of 2 then it must have some stellar attributes outside the combat.

You definitely should've played 2 before 3, I think. Skipping it is an absolute travesty and you may have ruined some of the game for yourself by playing 3 first.

I just think 2 is the best game of the series because everything is just...

so freakin good.
The combat is already really great, the characters are fantastic, it probably has the best main story out of the first 3, and the loyalty quests are mostly amazing.
And nobody can forget the Suicide Mission, of course.

Mordin, Tali, and Garrus are the best, by the way.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:57 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:And when the destination is 'rock falls, everyone dies' the journey feels worthless and I feel like I wasted my time for caring enough to try and be 'good'.

Your families castle is destroyed and conquered, your mother is killed, many of your allies are dead, and your character is heavily wounded.

That's not a comeback, that's a spiteful GM trying to be 'dark' and giving his players the middle finger.


Well I can't change how you feel. Just for me their slow descent into annihilation was a story I found incredibly fascinating and felt privileged to take part in, and seeing how these characters (and by extension myself) dealt with circumstances that spiraled ever further beyond there control.

And I never said the end was a comeback. I just said that it makes any comeback sweeter, however minor.

If doesn't help that I also think Game of Thrones and the books are overrated and only watch the battle scenes and ignore everything else.

This is also the first game that has actually pissed me off .
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:08 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
I did say that my favourite Sci Fi RPG and Mass Effect game could change since I haven't played ME2. But even if it did supplant Andromeda then Andromeda would still be 2nd.

Besides, with how amazing combat is in Andromeda and how it seems to be an evolution from 3 which was an evolution of 2 then it must have some stellar attributes outside the combat.

You definitely should've played 2 before 3, I think. Skipping it is an absolute travesty and you may have ruined some of the game for yourself by playing 3 first.

I just think 2 is the best game of the series because everything is just...

so freakin good.
The combat is already really great, the characters are fantastic, it probably has the best main story out of the first 3, and the loyalty quests are mostly amazing.
And nobody can forget the Suicide Mission, of course.

Mordin, Tali, and Garrus are the best, by the way.


I skipped it because I played some 10 hours of Mass Effect 1 and then gave up on it since the combat felt mind numbingly bad, at least for when I played it coming off MGSV so it might not have been fair but it did feel very dated.

And knowing that to get to the end of the trilogy I'd have to probably invest 25 hours minimum on ME2 before hitting ME3. And at the time I just.... really wasn't able to do that so I made the choice to leap frog. Maybe a bad call in hindsight, but the deed is done now.
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Postby Abserdia » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:14 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Abserdia wrote:You definitely should've played 2 before 3, I think. Skipping it is an absolute travesty and you may have ruined some of the game for yourself by playing 3 first.

I just think 2 is the best game of the series because everything is just...

so freakin good.
The combat is already really great, the characters are fantastic, it probably has the best main story out of the first 3, and the loyalty quests are mostly amazing.
And nobody can forget the Suicide Mission, of course.

Mordin, Tali, and Garrus are the best, by the way.


I skipped it because I played some 10 hours of Mass Effect 1 and then gave up on it since the combat felt mind numbingly bad, at least for when I played it coming off MGSV so it might not have been fair but it did feel very dated.

And knowing that to get to the end of the trilogy I'd have to probably invest 25 hours minimum on ME2 before hitting ME3. And at the time I just.... really wasn't able to do that so I made the choice to leap frog. Maybe a bad call in hindsight, but the deed is done now.

Yeah, ME1's combat is very... not good.
Maybe it's because I just played as a boring soldier or whatever. Being an adept is awesome in 2, especially when you realize that you can curve that... energy blast.
Forgot what it's called.

Well, I do think you should still play it.

I should probably replay 1 and 2 as a Renegade some time, too.
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Postby Bralia » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:49 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
I skipped it because I played some 10 hours of Mass Effect 1 and then gave up on it since the combat felt mind numbingly bad, at least for when I played it coming off MGSV so it might not have been fair but it did feel very dated.

And knowing that to get to the end of the trilogy I'd have to probably invest 25 hours minimum on ME2 before hitting ME3. And at the time I just.... really wasn't able to do that so I made the choice to leap frog. Maybe a bad call in hindsight, but the deed is done now.

Yeah, ME1's combat is very... not good.
Maybe it's because I just played as a boring soldier or whatever. Being an adept is awesome in 2, especially when you realize that you can curve that... energy blast.
Forgot what it's called.

Well, I do think you should still play it.

I should probably replay 1 and 2 as a Renegade some time, too.

How can you say that? You've played ME3 haven't you? Surely the awesomeness of the biotic play in 3 trumps what you can do in 2. You can almost easily go for a no-guns playthrough. Even on Insanity difficulty. It's one of the best things about ME3, imo.
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Postby Zanera » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:02 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
I did say that my favourite Sci Fi RPG and Mass Effect game could change since I haven't played ME2. But even if it did supplant Andromeda then Andromeda would still be 2nd.

Besides, with how amazing combat is in Andromeda and how it seems to be an evolution from 3 which was an evolution of 2 then it must have some stellar attributes outside the combat.

You definitely should've played 2 before 3, I think. Skipping it is an absolute travesty and you may have ruined some of the game for yourself by playing 3 first.

I just think 2 is the best game of the series because everything is just...

so freakin good.
The combat is already really great, the characters are fantastic, it probably has the best main story out of the first 3, and the loyalty quests are mostly amazing.
And nobody can forget the Suicide Mission, of course.

Mordin, Tali, and Garrus are the best, by the way.


...Garrus is inherently the best,

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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:57 pm

Warframe is not as entertaining as people said.
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Postby Abserdia » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:36 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Warframe is not as entertaining as people said.

It's definitely not for everybody. If you don't like farming, it's definitely not the game for you.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:44 pm

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Postby Zanera » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:52 pm

Abserdia wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Warframe is not as entertaining as people said.

It's definitely not for everybody. If you don't like farming, it's definitely not the game for you.


As long as I know how to farm for things. DC Universe: Online got confusing for me because I didn't know how to farm for mods or three quarters of the other random bullshit they have implemented that I'll probably never understand. People got obsessed over armor/weapon mods then Feats came and they were witch hunting in every Instance like dayum, fuck off. How could getting fucking achievements possibly affect my stats? Then I looked up what combinations of things would be good for things because I didn't want to be too n00b and I got a buncha displayed stats jargon.

I don't play that shit no mo'.

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Postby Dylar » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:03 am

I just ordered Jak X for my PS2...now I gotta wait about a week for it to get here...I want my childhood game NOW!
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So I opened up my email, and got an alert from Orwell (a game), but their system treats you as an agent since you had to sign up. So it was a nice little surprise to find that in my email a few minutes ago about how the system the game uses intercepted a propaganda video. Turns out said video was a trailer for season two, but by far that was the cleverest advertising I have ever seen.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:09 am

So.... whats the weirder game?

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Postby Czechanada » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:35 pm

Video Games May Affect The Brain Differently, Depending On What You Play

NPR wrote:The way that each type of video game is designed could play a role, West says.

"In the majority of action video games, there's an onscreen GPS overlaid on the screen," West says. "There's also wayfinding markers overlaid over the environment, and we know from past studies that when people are encouraged to navigate using these cues, really, they're not using their hippocampal memory system to navigate."

Instead, they're using the caudate nucleus, which is part of the brain's reward system.

"It's kind of like your brain's autopilot, you could think of it that way," West says.

"It could be the case that these action video games are encouraging people to favor this reward system over their hippocampal memory system. And then it's become the use-it-or-lose-it type scenario."


Huh, scientific evidence that quest markers inhibit neurological development.

I'd imagine that the mechanic of fast travel also plays a role in the shrinking of one's hippocampus; Being able to teleport everywhere prevents players from being forced to exercise the memory capacities of their hippocampus by not having to remember how to return to locations.
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Postby Zanera » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:41 pm

I'd shrink my hippocampus to the size of an ant if it meant not spending tens of minutes just getting from point A to point B in a video game.

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When i find out there is a game on steam where i control a cult and i can sacrifice people:

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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:37 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:When i find out there is a game on steam where i control a cult and i can sacrifice people:


What game?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:39 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:When i find out there is a game on steam where i control a cult and i can sacrifice people:


What game?

Shrouded isle, brother told me about it being on steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/50132 ... uded_Isle/
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