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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:25 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:It's okay, we can just blow up the collection agency.

But sir....we are an collection agency.

What're you doing, Dave?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:41 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:It's okay, we can just blow up the collection agency.

But sir....we are an collection agency.

Which just means that we're taking out the competition at the same time.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:27 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Much less spreadsheets. :P

Its massively community driven. And the Horizons DLC adds planetary landings, rovers, fighter craft NPC pilots you can hire and soon the ability to get out and walk around your ship, the stations, and EVA. Theyre also planning an update where plays can join on person's ship as a copilot or whatnot.

Planetary landings, I feel the need to point out, are currently limited to planets without an atmosphere. Atmospheric landing (and I think space legs) are coming in a future paid expansion.

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And it isn't a boring as fuck Microsoft Excel simulator IN SPAAAAACE.

PEW PEW MOTHERFUCKERS

EAT RAILGUN


Atmospheric will be in Horizons as well.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:41 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Planetary landings, I feel the need to point out, are currently limited to planets without an atmosphere. Atmospheric landing (and I think space legs) are coming in a future paid expansion.


PEW PEW MOTHERFUCKERS

EAT RAILGUN


Atmospheric will be in Horizons as well.


Honestly, Elite needs to step it's shit up.

Space Engineers and... The other one (Space Pilots?) have been positively thrashing them on certain aspects.

It has the budget to push depth and it has the basics down perfect, so I don't know what they're waiting for to make the game really marketable. Shit, it's already marketable. It doesn't have all the bullshit EVE has like an economy that is always flying by the seat of it's pants because playing the game is like having a second job and it's totally player-driven so that if nobody is playing the economy's dead.

I'd really like to see character customization, building your own colonies, large capital ships full of players, faction planets and whatnot.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:29 pm

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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:53 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Atmospheric will be in Horizons as well.


Honestly, Elite needs to step it's shit up.

Space Engineers and... The other one (Space Pilots?) have been positively thrashing them on certain aspects.

It has the budget to push depth and it has the basics down perfect, so I don't know what they're waiting for to make the game really marketable. Shit, it's already marketable. It doesn't have all the bullshit EVE has like an economy that is always flying by the seat of it's pants because playing the game is like having a second job and it's totally player-driven so that if nobody is playing the economy's dead.

I'd really like to see character customization, building your own colonies, large capital ships full of players, faction planets and whatnot.


Some of that is also coming in Horizons. Space Engineers is ehh. For one, the two games are for two entirely different genres. Secondly, SE is bad about being unoptimised at times, and I say that with over 300 hours in that game. :P

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:48 pm

So did the tutorials for Elite dangerous, well.. mostly, died a lot in the advanced combat one but got the hang of it in the end.

Then when i left my first space station in the main game i spent about 10 minutes outside fiddling with the controls, then spent about 4 minutes trying to find the damn fucking landing pad to get back in and forgot you had to request permission to dock then almost killed myself on the landing pad.

Galaxy fear me.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:49 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So did the tutorials for Elite dangerous, well.. mostly, died a lot in the advanced combat one but got the hang of it in the end.

Then when i left my first space station in the main game i spent about 10 minutes outside fiddling with the controls, then spent about 4 minutes trying to find the damn fucking landing pad to get back in and forgot you had to request permission to dock then almost killed myself on the landing pad.

Galaxy fear me.


The galaxy is afeared.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:08 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So did the tutorials for Elite dangerous, well.. mostly, died a lot in the advanced combat one but got the hang of it in the end.

Then when i left my first space station in the main game i spent about 10 minutes outside fiddling with the controls, then spent about 4 minutes trying to find the damn fucking landing pad to get back in and forgot you had to request permission to dock then almost killed myself on the landing pad.

Galaxy fear me.


It is afraid, but not for the reasons you'd like.

*Gives a Cease and Desist Order on the Operation of Spatial Vehicles*

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:09 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So did the tutorials for Elite dangerous, well.. mostly, died a lot in the advanced combat one but got the hang of it in the end.

Then when i left my first space station in the main game i spent about 10 minutes outside fiddling with the controls, then spent about 4 minutes trying to find the damn fucking landing pad to get back in and forgot you had to request permission to dock then almost killed myself on the landing pad.

Galaxy fear me.


The galaxy is afeared.
"We is afeared master witcher, ther is a mad mans loose in the stars with a rocket ship, an he dont know what he is doing you see"

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So did the tutorials for Elite dangerous, well.. mostly, died a lot in the advanced combat one but got the hang of it in the end.

Then when i left my first space station in the main game i spent about 10 minutes outside fiddling with the controls, then spent about 4 minutes trying to find the damn fucking landing pad to get back in and forgot you had to request permission to dock then almost killed myself on the landing pad.

Galaxy fear me.


It is afraid, but not for the reasons you'd like.

*Gives a Cease and Desist Order on the Operation of Spatial Vehicles*

But i have to fly! To fight the Empire and save the Rebellion! Save the Dream!

To take the dream!
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:13 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The galaxy is afeared.
"We is afeared master witcher, ther is a mad mans loose in the stars with a rocket ship, an he dont know what he is doing you see"

Lady Scylla wrote:
It is afraid, but not for the reasons you'd like.

*Gives a Cease and Desist Order on the Operation of Spatial Vehicles*

But i have to fly! To fight the Empire and save the Rebellion! Save the Dream!

To take the dream!


But I'm from the Empire. :meh:

Dirty Federation-scum

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:16 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"We is afeared master witcher, ther is a mad mans loose in the stars with a rocket ship, an he dont know what he is doing you see"


But i have to fly! To fight the Empire and save the Rebellion! Save the Dream!

To take the dream!


But I'm from the Empire. :meh:

Dirty Federation-scum

Browncoat for life yo.

Wait.. is there an alliance super power in this game?
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Postby Kaedshi » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:19 pm

Does NS count as PC gaming? Lol
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:20 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
But I'm from the Empire. :meh:

Dirty Federation-scum

Browncoat for life yo.

Wait.. is there an alliance super power in this game?


There's the Federation, the Alliance, and the Empire. Then you've got all the independent states.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:26 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Browncoat for life yo.

Wait.. is there an alliance super power in this game?


There's the Federation, the Alliance, and the Empire. Then you've got all the independent states.

Is it worth it to join one of the big factions early on, or should i go about doing my own thing for a bit, i was thinking of going down the road of a bounty hunter or something.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:31 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
There's the Federation, the Alliance, and the Empire. Then you've got all the independent states.

Is it worth it to join one of the big factions early on, or should i go about doing my own thing for a bit, i was thinking of going down the road of a bounty hunter or something.


It's entirely up to you. Personally, Id recommend doing legal trading just to get some income. Read the galnet for current news, and learn about the game. You could join a faction though, you get a weekly bonus for your pledge. But you do you. There is no right way to play the game.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:50 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Is it worth it to join one of the big factions early on, or should i go about doing my own thing for a bit, i was thinking of going down the road of a bounty hunter or something.


It's entirely up to you. Personally, Id recommend doing legal trading just to get some income. Read the galnet for current news, and learn about the game. You could join a faction though, you get a weekly bonus for your pledge. But you do you. There is no right way to play the game.

Okay, thanks.
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Postby Kaedshi » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:52 pm

On the thread of alliances, I'm playing Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin for the first time. I've already killed the Giant and the Dragonrider bosses (giant guy with a halberd.) Any advice for covenants to join, for a first time player?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:55 pm

Kaedshi wrote:On the thread of alliances, I'm playing Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin for the first time. I've already killed the Giant and the Dragonrider bosses (giant guy with a halberd.) Any advice for covenants to join, for a first time player?

There is a Covenant you can find later in the game that might help you with player invasions.
Relatively far through, much further than Blue Cathedral where you are, is the Royal Rat King. You find him in/after the Doors of Pharros?? Been a long time since I played 2, but basically if you wear his ring, then when you are invaded, you'll sometimes both be summoned to Doors of Pharros and the NPCs should help you?

I think that was the gist of it, but I managed to get halfway through NG+ and still haven't been invaded.
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Postby Kaedshi » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:59 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Kaedshi wrote:On the thread of alliances, I'm playing Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin for the first time. I've already killed the Giant and the Dragonrider bosses (giant guy with a halberd.) Any advice for covenants to join, for a first time player?

There is a Covenant you can find later in the game that might help you with player invasions.
Relatively far through, much further than Blue Cathedral where you are, is the Royal Rat King. You find him in/after the Doors of Pharros?? Been a long time since I played 2, but basically if you wear his ring, then when you are invaded, you'll sometimes both be summoned to Doors of Pharros and the NPCs should help you?

I think that was the gist of it, but I managed to get halfway through NG+ and still haven't been invaded.

I'm playing offline. Are Covenants mostly reserved for online play?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:02 pm

Kaedshi wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There is a Covenant you can find later in the game that might help you with player invasions.
Relatively far through, much further than Blue Cathedral where you are, is the Royal Rat King. You find him in/after the Doors of Pharros?? Been a long time since I played 2, but basically if you wear his ring, then when you are invaded, you'll sometimes both be summoned to Doors of Pharros and the NPCs should help you?

I think that was the gist of it, but I managed to get halfway through NG+ and still haven't been invaded.

I'm playing offline. Are Covenants mostly reserved for online play?

I'd tentatively say "mostly". A couple of NPCs who give you Covenants sometimes want you to join their Covenant before they'll ask you to do something else, but it's definitely an "online thing". They're functionally clans.
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Postby Kaedshi » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:06 pm

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Kaedshi wrote:I'm playing offline. Are Covenants mostly reserved for online play?

I'd tentatively say "mostly". A couple of NPCs who give you Covenants sometimes want you to join their Covenant before they'll ask you to do something else, but it's definitely an "online thing". They're functionally clans.

Oooooooooooooooh. Ok.
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Postby Ardavia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:13 pm

Kaedshi wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There is a Covenant you can find later in the game that might help you with player invasions.
Relatively far through, much further than Blue Cathedral where you are, is the Royal Rat King. You find him in/after the Doors of Pharros?? Been a long time since I played 2, but basically if you wear his ring, then when you are invaded, you'll sometimes both be summoned to Doors of Pharros and the NPCs should help you?

I think that was the gist of it, but I managed to get halfway through NG+ and still haven't been invaded.

I'm playing offline. Are Covenants mostly reserved for online play?


if you're offline there's not much of a point to covenants

all but two of them are pretty much only for online play (there are two coop ones, three invading PvP ones, and two summoned pvp ones)

and of those two PvE covenants

one of them really isn't for first time players (Company of Champions, which basically raises the difficulty to NG+ levels: enemies, including bosses, deal roughly 50% more damage, have varying HP increases, and gain roughly 20% damage resistance). obviously you can go for it if you want a fun time, you can find the covenant at the victor's stone in Majula: take the path to the right near the doorway to Heide's Tower and you should find it

the other is endgame content
the covenant is the Pilgrims of Dark. you can access it once you reach Drangleic Castle and talk to Grandahl for the third time: he also appears in Black Gulch and Shaded Ruins and you need to talk to him in all these places to access the covenant. it just unlocks some optional PvE content (some dungeons called Dark Chasms of Old and a boss known as the Darklurker) if you want to challenge yourself.
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Postby Kaedshi » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:16 pm

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Kaedshi wrote:I'm playing offline. Are Covenants mostly reserved for online play?


if you're offline there's not much of a point to covenants

all but two of them are pretty much only for online play (there are two coop ones, three invading PvP ones, and two summoned pvp ones)

and of those two PvE covenants

one of them really isn't for first time players (Company of Champions, which basically raises the difficulty to NG+ levels: enemies, including bosses, deal roughly 50% more damage, have varying HP increases, and gain roughly 20% damage resistance). obviously you can go for it if you want a fun time, you can find the covenant at the victor's stone in Majula: take the path to the right near the doorway to Heide's Tower and you should find it

the other is endgame content
the covenant is the Pilgrims of Dark. you can access it once you reach Drangleic Castle and talk to Grandahl for the third time: he also appears in Black Gulch and Shaded Ruins and you need to talk to him in all these places to access the covenant. it just unlocks some optional PvE content (some dungeons called Dark Chasms of Old and a boss known as the Darklurker) if you want to challenge yourself.

Ah. Appreciate the explanation. Read into the Company of Champions, and that's a nope. As for the Pilgrims, I think when I reach them I'll join them.
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Postby New Naephak » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:33 pm

Kaedshi wrote:On the thread of alliances, I'm playing Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin for the first time. I've already killed the Giant and the Dragonrider bosses (giant guy with a halberd.) Any advice for covenants to join, for a first time player?

I always take the Way of the Blue on every new character, if just for the Blue Seal that boosts your max HP. It might be a small amount, but every hit point is helpful, and it pairs well with the Life Ring.

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