Thread for Gamers VIII: Revenge of the Sh**

[Conoga]

I don't think any of his games have race as a theme.

I’m pretty sure Detroit does.

Right, I don't have a PlayStation, but I misread. Thought you were saying all his games were about race.

[Barboneia]

I’m pretty sure Detroit does.

Right, I don't have a PlayStation, but I misread. Thought you were saying all his games were about race.

Oh, no. I never noticed any real social commentary in his other games.

[Abserdia]

...Why? I heard good things about Detroit...the game, not the city.

To me it looks like a typical David Cage pseudo-intellectual circlejerk of “we live in a society”. “Hey folks, did you know that, get this... Racism is bad???” Thanks David, glad your video game is the first piece of media to ever establish that.

He’s not a good writer. He straight up lies to the player. See Heavy Rain, a mystery game that gives you only red herrings, leading to the reveal of the Origarmi Killer being unexpected in the worst possible way. There are bad twists, and then there are the worst twists. Heavy Rain features one of the worst twists.

The dialogue is always awful, too. His characters talk like they’re aliens trying to fit in. He has some weird almost-rape fantasy he puts in every game, some pretentious thing in every chapter (Hey guys, the androids stand in the back of the bus behind a glass panel! Isn’t that a clever reference to segregation in America?), and in the case of Beyond Two Souls, THE WORST PACING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A VIDEO GAME

[Conoga]

Right, I don't have a PlayStation, but I misread. Thought you were saying all his games were about race.

Oh, no. I never noticed any real social commentary in his other games.

I've enjoyed his last few games because they're adventure games without becoming a Telltale-like, which is getting very boring, like most recent others seem to.

[Ameriganastan]

Oh, no. I never noticed any real social commentary in his other games.

I've enjoyed his last few games because they're adventure games without becoming a Telltale-like, which is getting very boring, like most recent others seem to.

Yeah, the Telltale formula has gotten stale.

[Immoren]

I feel bad that somehow I still mix/confuse Alan Wake and Heavy Rain.

[Imperializt Russia]

To me it looks like a typical David Cage pseudo-intellectual circlejerk of “we live in a society”. “Hey folks, did you know that, get this... Racism is bad???” Thanks David, glad your video game is the first piece of media to ever establish that.

I don't think any of his games have race as a theme.
Oh, I misread that. I wouldn't resd too much into it, I like them because they break from the awful Telltale-like trend that most adventure games are drifting into.

The market dominance of "Telltale-like" may be awful, but Telltale's formula is actually good, I hear.

[Ameriganastan]

I don't think any of his games have race as a theme.
Oh, I misread that. I wouldn't resd too much into it, I like them because they break from the awful Telltale-like trend that most adventure games are drifting into.

The market dominance of "Telltale-like" may be awful, but Telltale's formula is actually good, I hear.

It was until season 3. Which I still haven't bothered to finish cause everyone but Clem is insufferable...

[Immoren]

Searching host of world I’ve invaded in Remastered Dark Souls

Phantom X has been summoned

Phantom Y has been summoned

Phantom Z has been summoned

[The first Galactic Republic]

I don't think any of his games have race as a theme.
Oh, I misread that. I wouldn't resd too much into it, I like them because they break from the awful Telltale-like trend that most adventure games are drifting into.

The market dominance of "Telltale-like" may be awful, but Telltale's formula is actually good, I hear.

Eh... hit and miss.

[The Albali Republic]

The market dominance of "Telltale-like" may be awful, but Telltale's formula is actually good, I hear.

It was until season 3. Which I still haven't bothered to finish cause everyone but Clem is insufferable...

I agree. I don't mean to skirt the bounds of a spoiler warning, but you know that stupid fucking teenager that is your nephew (I think)? He becomes much worse. I mean, worst character in the entire series. He's just total garbage.

[Ameriganastan]

It was until season 3. Which I still haven't bothered to finish cause everyone but Clem is insufferable...

I agree. I don't mean to skirt the bounds of a spoiler warning, but you know that stupid fucking teenager that is your nephew (I think)? He becomes much worse. I mean, worst character in the entire series. He's just total garbage.

Gabe. Yes, I'm aware how insufferable that hormonal little fucker is.

[Ifreann]

If Detroit: Become Human sells more copies than NieR: Automata, I’m going to die of sadness.

How could a game about being human possibly outsell a game about what happens when you make anime real?

[Abserdia]

If Detroit: Become Human sells more copies than NieR: Automata, I’m going to die of sadness.

How could a game about being human possibly outsell a game about what happens when you make anime real?

NieR: Automata is the best video game about the ”What Measure Is A Non-Human” trope.
The difference between NieR and Detroit is like day and night. The former can actually make you cry, but the latter makes you laugh at a drug addicted father verbally abusing his daughter.

[Ameriganastan]

How could a game about being human possibly outsell a game about what happens when you make anime real?

NieR: Automata is the best video game about the ”What Measure Is A Non-Human” trope.
The difference between NieR and Detroit is like day and night. The former can actually make you cry, but the latter makes you laugh at a drug addicted father verbally abusing his daughter.

Clearly no bias going on here...

[Abserdia]

NieR: Automata is the best video game about the ”What Measure Is A Non-Human” trope.
The difference between NieR and Detroit is like day and night. The former can actually make you cry, but the latter makes you laugh at a drug addicted father verbally abusing his daughter.

Clearly no bias going on here...

That’s hilarious coming from you. You definitely don’t have any bias against anything at all. Nope. No bias. None. Nada. Nil.

[Immoren]

"And if I dooon't haaave a heart
Then whaaaat is broooken?
Bonds of time they cooome apart
We've been awoken at the end
And if I dooon't haaaave a heart
Then why keep hooopiiing?
We were blinded from the start
Forever frooozen my friend"

[Abserdia]

"And if I dooon't haaave a heart
Then whaaaat is broooken?
Bonds of time they cooome apart
We've been awoken at the end
And if I dooon't haaaave a heart
Then why keep hooopiiing?
We were blinded from the start
Forever frooozen my friend"

“Cause we’re gonna shout it loud
Even if our words seem meaningless
It’s like I’m carrying the weight of the world
I wish that someway somehow
That I could save every one of us
But the truth is that I’m only one girl”

[Ameriganastan]

Clearly no bias going on here...

That’s hilarious coming from you. You definitely don’t have any bias against anything at all. Nope. No bias. None. Nada. Nil.

I'm not saying I don't have biases. But I also don't go into frothing fanboy defense mode every time someone says something not gushy about Neir...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I beat the oddcy boss rush and got the crown

[Abserdia]

That’s hilarious coming from you. You definitely don’t have any bias against anything at all. Nope. No bias. None. Nada. Nil.

I'm not saying I don't have biases. But I also don't go into frothing fanboy defense mode every time someone says something not gushy about Neir...

You don’t have to gush about NieR, but I just get mad when people simplify it. Both Gestalt and Automata are more complex than a lot of people think.

[Ameriganastan]

I'm not saying I don't have biases. But I also don't go into frothing fanboy defense mode every time someone says something not gushy about Neir...

You don’t have to gush about NieR, but I just get mad when people simplify it. Both Gestalt and Automata are more complex than a lot of people think.

You mean like how you're simplifying Detroit because you feel it copies Nier?

[Abserdia]

You don’t have to gush about NieR, but I just get mad when people simplify it. Both Gestalt and Automata are more complex than a lot of people think.

You mean like how you're simplifying Detroit because you feel it copies Nier?

I don’t feel it copies NieR. The themes of humanity in robotic beings was not created by Yoko Taro. It’s been done a million times within the past 5 years alone.
However, Detroit just isn’t well written. I don’t think any David Cage game is well-written. Although he can make actually compelling and interesting scenes, they’re a rarity. The man truly tries, and I gotta give him that. But when you’re routinely laughing at a dramatic game about a serial killer who drowns young boys in rainwater and a father who mutilates himself to save the only family he has left, you’ve done something wrong.

[Immoren]

[The Albali Republic]

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Holy shit, androids really are thinking like people!