Thread for Gamers VIII: Revenge of the Sh**

[Zeinbrad]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

[Imperializt Russia]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

I think, from what I've seen, it was way overhyped and very much EA standard output. Just had a moderately interesting veneer over it.

The AI is characteristically thick as pigshit and I smell a whiff of recycled game engine and mechanics, just some nice and shiny new art assets over the Battlefront engine.

[Libertas Regionem]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

The multiplayer is the shit
I don't really care about singleplayer

[The Huskar Social Union]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

MP is really fun, SP surprisingly good, though wish it was longer and the AI is a bit stupid.

[Czechanada]

Eh, I'm rather disappointed with the way Battlefield 1 turned out. In its mechanical essence, it's the exact same game that Battlefield 1942 was, with even the same server sizes of sixty-four players.

I always wish for games that actually push the threshold of FPS conventions, with new ways of playing the game and interacting with the battlefield. Battlefield 1942 was popular back in the day because it did these things; The notion of control-point based mulltplayer gameplay with sixty-four players was unheard of at the time.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Eh, I'm rather disappointed with the way Battlefield 1 turned out. In its mechanical essence, it's the exact same game that Battlefield 1942 was, with even the same server sizes of sixty-four players.

I always wish for games that actually push the threshold of FPS conventions, with new ways of playing the game and interacting with the battlefield. Battlefield 1942 was popular back in the day because it did these things; The notion of control-point based mulltplayer gameplay with sixty-four players was unheard of at the time.

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

[Germanic Templars]

Eh, I'm rather disappointed with the way Battlefield 1 turned out. In its mechanical essence, it's the exact same game that Battlefield 1942 was, with even the same server sizes of sixty-four players.

I always wish for games that actually push the threshold of FPS conventions, with new ways of playing the game and interacting with the battlefield. Battlefield 1942 was popular back in the day because it did these things; The notion of control-point based mulltplayer gameplay with sixty-four players was unheard of at the time.

Speaking of 64 players, I wish a MAG 2 would be created some time in the next year or so. That game was the cat's meow.

[Husseinarti]

Eh, I'm rather disappointed with the way Battlefield 1 turned out. In its mechanical essence, it's the exact same game that Battlefield 1942 was, with even the same server sizes of sixty-four players.

I always wish for games that actually push the threshold of FPS conventions, with new ways of playing the game and interacting with the battlefield. Battlefield 1942 was popular back in the day because it did these things; The notion of control-point based mulltplayer gameplay with sixty-four players was unheard of at the time.

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

more fronts would be cooler than the standard USA/Brit/Russian vs German/Italian/Jap

If anything, a game about say, the Polish Invasion or French Invasion would be cool. Maybe some Aussie fighting in their theaters of operations in the Pacific? Maybe be a Greek and stomp on the Italians all day.

There was a great mod for CoD 2 which took place in the Spanish Civil War that was fucking awesome, but its a niche front that people don't really know allot.

Maybe a game in which you are the Germans? And your game ends with fighting at Castle Itter or something like that. Maybe one that has you start as a Japanese soldier at Kalkin Gol and ends with a hypothetical US invasion of Japan?

Also, a game like CoD 2 was awesome. You didn't feel like the one man army against the entire world. You didn't see the allied AI as just fodder, they were slightly competent and knew what they were doing. That would be great instead of say "OH MY GOD YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING NONE OF US CAN HURT THE ENEMY AGH PLOT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Licana]

>CoD 2

2/10 can't even defend Burger Town

[Husseinarti]

>CoD 2

2/10 can't even defend Burger Town

:<<<

git out

[The first Galactic Republic]

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

more fronts would be cooler than the standard USA/Brit/Russian vs German/Italian/Jap

If anything, a game about say, the Polish Invasion or French Invasion would be cool. Maybe some Aussie fighting in their theaters of operations in the Pacific? Maybe be a Greek and stomp on the Italians all day.

There was a great mod for CoD 2 which took place in the Spanish Civil War that was fucking awesome, but its a niche front that people don't really know allot.

Maybe a game in which you are the Germans? And your game ends with fighting at Castle Itter or something like that. Maybe one that has you start as a Japanese soldier at Kalkin Gol and ends with a hypothetical US invasion of Japan?

Also, a game like CoD 2 was awesome. You didn't feel like the one man army against the entire world. You didn't see the allied AI as just fodder, they were slightly competent and knew what they were doing. That would be great instead of say "OH MY GOD YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING NONE OF US CAN HURT THE ENEMY AGH PLOT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Call of Duty's original selling point was that you had AI allies, whereas comparable games often had you by yourself. Despite that the original game often had you by yourself, like that horrible dam mission. Call of Duty 2 was where that actually became true.

Personally I find the Spanish Civil War very interesting.

[Husseinarti]

Yeah I mean the MoH games were centered around literally that, the concept of "Hey you, yeah you! Have fun being the only guy in the entire Allies who can shoot that tank with his MG 200000000000 times and blow it up."

I know like Pacific Assault attempted to give you a squad dynamic, however it seems a tad clunky.

Then again any kind of squad dynamic in a non-MP game can get clunky.

[Imperializt Russia]

Eh, I'm rather disappointed with the way Battlefield 1 turned out. In its mechanical essence, it's the exact same game that Battlefield 1942 was, with even the same server sizes of sixty-four players.

I always wish for games that actually push the threshold of FPS conventions, with new ways of playing the game and interacting with the battlefield. Battlefield 1942 was popular back in the day because it did these things; The notion of control-point based mulltplayer gameplay with sixty-four players was unheard of at the time.

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

It's not the fan's fault, it's publishers and/or unimaginative devs. A cheap engine recycle of a big franchise is great for publishers. Hence why CoD is a fucking titan and why BF1 is a Battlefront reskin with identical mechanics.

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

more fronts would be cooler than the standard USA/Brit/Russian vs German/Italian/Jap

If anything, a game about say, the Polish Invasion or French Invasion would be cool. Maybe some Aussie fighting in their theaters of operations in the Pacific? Maybe be a Greek and stomp on the Italians all day.

There was a great mod for CoD 2 which took place in the Spanish Civil War that was fucking awesome, but its a niche front that people don't really know allot.

Maybe a game in which you are the Germans? And your game ends with fighting at Castle Itter or something like that. Maybe one that has you start as a Japanese soldier at Kalkin Gol and ends with a hypothetical US invasion of Japan?

Also, a game like CoD 2 was awesome. You didn't feel like the one man army against the entire world. You didn't see the allied AI as just fodder, they were slightly competent and knew what they were doing. That would be great instead of say "OH MY GOD YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING NONE OF US CAN HURT THE ENEMY AGH PLOT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

How the hell is Italian standard?

[Husseinarti]

Yeah in hindsight Italian is hard to find too.

[The first Galactic Republic]

FPS inovation would great, but I feel it's partially the fan's fault that games aren't changing much. They're fine with it.

I mean I feel like a minority when I disagree with all the people wanting more WWII games again, especially since when they describe what they want they basically just seem like they want the same games they played as kids again.

It's not the fan's fault, it's publishers and/or unimaginative devs. A cheap engine recycle of a big franchise is great for publishers. Hence why CoD is a fucking titan and why BF1 is a Battlefront reskin with identical mechanics.

more fronts would be cooler than the standard USA/Brit/Russian vs German/Italian/Jap

If anything, a game about say, the Polish Invasion or French Invasion would be cool. Maybe some Aussie fighting in their theaters of operations in the Pacific? Maybe be a Greek and stomp on the Italians all day.

There was a great mod for CoD 2 which took place in the Spanish Civil War that was fucking awesome, but its a niche front that people don't really know allot.

Maybe a game in which you are the Germans? And your game ends with fighting at Castle Itter or something like that. Maybe one that has you start as a Japanese soldier at Kalkin Gol and ends with a hypothetical US invasion of Japan?

Also, a game like CoD 2 was awesome. You didn't feel like the one man army against the entire world. You didn't see the allied AI as just fodder, they were slightly competent and knew what they were doing. That would be great instead of say "OH MY GOD YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING NONE OF US CAN HURT THE ENEMY AGH PLOT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

How the hell is Italian standard?

Fans aren't blameless. If modern FPS games flopped, the devs would change things. Instead people ate up the BF1 hype and assumed it'd be different just because it was a WWI game, even though common sense would tell us it'd be like most other Battlefield games.

[Husseinarti]

Had hardline not been a battlefield title it may have been more popular. It just came out so suddenly and weird and the hype behind it wasn't anything much.

Honestly Battlefield 1 plays nice. The combat is allot, like allot more hectic and chaotic than 3/4. The smoke and gas drop visibility to zero and with all the gun fire, mortars, grenades and other shit just always going on closing in becomes a huge fun clusterfuck.

Tanks are OP to an extent, but thats good tbh.

[Imperializt Russia]

I was honestly interested, in concept, by BF Hardline. I like spinoffs.

Unsurprisingly, it didn't turn out much different than "Battlefield without tanks". The guns were basically the same, the play was basically the same, you could find RPG-7 launchers on the map and in cop cars. It was a reskin.

If DICE and Visceral had had much imagination to spare - or not been locked down under EA, take yer pick - there could have been asymmetry to the sides beyond the adversarial game modes themselves.

[Imperializt Russia]

In lighter news for Xbox Live Games with Gold users (X360 titles);

I Am Alive is currently free until October 31st; from November 1st to November 15th it will be Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition (which I'm kind of looking forward to) and from November 16th it will be Far Cry 3's Blood Dragon expansion. When Blood Dragon was last on sale, it was as a standalone XBLA game.

[New Naephak]

Urgh, owners of Dark Souls III Deluxe Edition aren't able to download the DLC that dropped a half hour ago even though it comes with the season pass...
Meanwhile, anyone who bought the DLC or even the season pass separately are getting access...

[Imperializt Russia]

Urgh, owners of Dark Souls III Deluxe Edition aren't able to download the DLC that dropped a half hour ago even though it comes with the season pass...
Meanwhile, anyone who bought the DLC or even the season pass separately are getting access...

It's almost as though preorders are bullshit.

[Abserdia]

In lighter news for Xbox Live Games with Gold users (X360 titles);

I Am Alive is currently free until October 31st; from November 1st to November 15th it will be Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition (which I'm kind of looking forward to) and from November 16th it will be Far Cry 3's Blood Dragon expansion. When Blood Dragon was last on sale, it was as a standalone XBLA game.

Next month seems okay. May get Monkey Island, but I don't have any interest in any other titles, especially since I already have Blood Dragon on my PS3, which I should probably finish sometime.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

Not enough historical accuracy.

[Husseinarti]

So is Battlefield 1 actually good?

Not enough historical accuracy.

who cares?

Go play Verdun if you want a fairly accurate game.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Not enough historical accuracy.

who cares?

Go play Verdun if you want a fairly accurate game.

Never.

[Zeinbrad]

It seems in Battlefield 1 SP they give you a bunch of guns...but no ammo for them.