Thread for Gamers VIII: Revenge of the Sh**

[Hurdergaryp]

Even when I joke about hype, I'm always cautious about actually getting overly hyped.

Which is a real risk you run, because you're young and willing to experience new entertainment. So any carefully planned titillation campaign in order to make you really, really enthusiast for a coming game may have an impact on your impressionable mind.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Finished the BF1 single player war stories, i really enjoyed them, Mud and Blood and The Runner are probably my two favourites out of all of them. The Italian one was probably my least favourite due to how absurdly overpowered you were in the first mission.

Wish they were longer damn it, i hope they make more of them for expansions or something in the future.

[Imperializt Russia]

I've now come to one or two conclusions.

Either Red Faction is just a despicable port, or it was very badly designed.

Despite wearing an environmental protection suit of power armour, you're vulnerable to fire. Very little health loss, but it destroys armour. And half of an enemy AI subroutine when on fire is to run into you.

The Capek boss is incredibly poorly designed. He fires quite fast homing bolts at you which track and clip through floors and some walls and if they do, will loop around to hit you, and deals significantly over 50 damage, so he kills you in two hits. If you stand next to EOS, a plot-critical NPC who is also firing on him, he will attack her instead, and will kill her in 4 hits. He will otherwise only attack you, unless you run away. He is also flying for added bullshit.

The AI movement is completely fucked. I assume this is a porting problem, because I don't remember them being this bad on PS2. All enemies will, at some point, start zipping back and forth between two points, shooting at you, at about 40mph. Not even joking. Absolutely impossible to hit with a scoped weapon.

There is a Mercenary enemy introduced quite late in the game. They are absolute bullshit.
Very high health, and carries either a fast-firing sniper rifle, a HMG or a Rail Driver, a OHK single-shot weapon that can be fired through walls. Only some walls. The game doesn't tell you which. And the scope HUD that lets you see enemies through walls is obscured by vertical scan lines, which is either a porting issue or a graphics issue on my end. Screenshots on the RF community on Steam don't have this HUD scan lines problem.

There is a section where you have to clear a train station of I think 8 mercenary enemies plus 3-5 more that spawn in (some directly behind you). They spread out and move around like lightning and have ridiculous damage output as a group, so you can't go through the one doorway and fight them.
You can't bottleneck them at the door because their AI is fucked and will lead to them standing outside the door requiring you to trigger it (and it stays open for less than a second if you back off), or cause four of them to pile in.

Their shots clip through each other, but yours don't clip through them (except with certain sniper rifles and the Rail Driver weapon), they tank lol amounts of rockets as well. The Rail Driver doesn't penetrate through doors, nor most of the walls in this area, despite looking like the identical concrete that does in other places.

It's absolute horseshit. I've stolen my mate's mouse so I can actually aim properly and also properly decide to use alt fire modes, and it's still ridiculous. I can clear the first metro station OK - but then I've no health, and you have to take the metro to the next station and then clear that out as well.

Absolute bullshit.

[Communist Xomaniax]

I tried to buy copies of Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2, but the seller wanted $400 for both of them WITHOUT the transfer pak. Ended up finding copies of both with transfer pak for $40. Cue resulting butthurt from seller.

[Hurdergaryp]

I tried to buy copies of Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2, but the seller wanted $400 for both of them WITHOUT the transfer pak. Ended up finding copies of both with transfer pak for $40. Cue resulting butthurt from seller.

Well done. It's a buyer's market, after all.

[Libertas Regionem]

Guess who just got BF1?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Guess who just got BF1?

Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand?

[Libertas Regionem]

Guess who just got BF1?

Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand?

Nice.

I wanna put this in my sig, is that okay?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand?

Nice.

I wanna put this in my sig, is that okay?

Sure, why not i guess

[Imperializt Russia]

Holy fuck.

I think that my Red Faction woes are being caused by excessive FPS.

The AI actually runs on FPS. Holy fuck.

After turning on V-sync in the setup menu, the enemy AI now seems to have slightly less health, is more intelligent, but less aggressive (ie, dealing less damage) and the rate of fire of automatic and semi-automatic weapons seems to have decreased slightly.
I can't quite tell but I think NPC movement is now less erratic and of a more believable pace.

Forgot to check if graphical glitches and wall glitches were still occurring.
This was the result of about 2 mins of testing.

[Husseinarti]

yeah few old school games are FPS driven

running them on modern computers can get fucking bad

[Astrolinium]

yeah few old school games are FPS driven

running them on modern computers can get fucking bad

I remember having to do some considerable acrobatics to get Saints Row 2 working even remotely reasonably on my machine.

[Imperializt Russia]

yeah few old school games are FPS driven

running them on modern computers can get fucking bad

I remember having to do some considerable acrobatics to get Saints Row 2 working even remotely reasonably on my machine.

List of things Saints Row 2 isn't:
all that old
unfun

Saints Row 1 was an Xbox 360 launch title after all.

[Altito Asmoro]

yeah few old school games are FPS driven

running them on modern computers can get fucking bad

I remember having to do some considerable acrobatics to get Saints Row 2 working even remotely reasonably on my machine.

If we look into the Porting Disaster page of PC from Tropes:

Saints Row 2 was so bad that Volition fired the outside company who made the port and essentially washed their hands of it, declaring it hopeless. The on-foot sequences basically worked, but driving was essentially impossible thanks to an internal game clock that did not know how to adapt for CPU speeds other than 3.2 GHz, which is the clockspeed of the Xbox 360 the game was originally developed for. Thankfully the game has a fantastic community that has not only brought the game back to its intended speed and fixed thousands of other bugs, and added plenty of neat content to boot. You can check it out here. With the fan patch, it still isn't perfect, but it's far more playable.

The one thing that can't be fixed is the sound; the company in charge of the PC port didn't have the budget to license the sound middleware, so they used the trial version which downgrades sound to cassette quality and mono sound. Even worse, since the sound files and the interpreter for the middleware are separate files, a patch to fix it would be 10 MB tops, and wouldn't even require re-licensing the music or voice work, since it's not those files being fixed! Luckily, there's a fan-made patch that fixes the radio back to it's intended high quality sound from the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions.

The Steam release of the PC version also displays a bizarre issue where, unless both the client and the game are installed to the C: drive, the game will run, but only show the opening titles and not progress past the loading screen that comes immediately afterwards, which would ordinarily lead to the main menu. Oddly enough, years later the Steam release of Saints Row IV, a vastly superior port, would suffer from the same issue.

[Commonwealth of Prussia]

Guess who just got BF1?

Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand?

Shots fired.

[Commonwealth of Prussia]

I bought Battlefield 1 two days ago. Cannot complain!

[Astrolinium]

I remember having to do some considerable acrobatics to get Saints Row 2 working even remotely reasonably on my machine.

List of things Saints Row 2 isn't:
all that old
unfun

Saints Row 1 was an Xbox 360 launch title after all.

List of things Saints Row 2 is:
a terrible port of a great game
a game that runs on FPS
a game old enough that even my shitty laptop was running it about twice as fast as it could realistically handle

[Imperializt Russia]

I am honestly surprised that a game as "recent" as SR2 would run on FPS.

[Altito Asmoro]

I am honestly surprised that a game as "recent" as SR2 would run on FPS.

Recent, really?

You all should try Paladins, mate. It's a great game.

[Imperializt Russia]

I am honestly surprised that a game as "recent" as SR2 would run on FPS.

Recent, really?

You all should try Paladins, mate. It's a great game.

Well, it was the second game in a series that debuted on the Xbox 360, a console that is still getting new releases.

I'm surprised that Red Faction does, even though it's from 2001.
Though the sheer Half Life vibes it's giving me suggests it's of some even older vintage.

[Eol Sha]

Civ VI looks like so much fun.

[Licana]

>play modded FO4
>make it about 30 minutes before being overcome by the desire to play New Vegas
>start New Vegas
>Windows 10 broke it

Guess I'm not playing any fallout games ever again

edit: for anyone who cares, this was apparently a driver issue, not a Win10 issue. Rolling back to drivers from before the Win10 Anniversary update seems to have fixed it.

[Abserdia]

So I once again got 65 kills as Reaper on the same map as last time in Overwatch. About 41, by the way, were objective kills.

Still lost, though. I don't wanna go ahead and blame my teammates, but I'm totally gonna go ahead and blame my teammates!

[Altito Asmoro]

So I once again got 65 kills as Reaper on the same map as last time in Overwatch. About 41, by the way, were objective kills.

Still lost, though. I don't wanna go ahead and blame my teammates, but I'm totally gonna go ahead and blame my teammates!

Yep, your smile said it all.

[Imperializt Russia]

So I once again got 65 kills as Reaper on the same map as last time in Overwatch. About 41, by the way, were objective kills.

Still lost, though. I don't wanna go ahead and blame my teammates, but I'm totally gonna go ahead and blame my teammates!

There's always the possibility that Reaper is actually OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqM1B_Son2o&t=07m23s