Thread for Gamers VIII: Revenge of the Sh**

[Cisairse]

Does anyone consider mobile?

Seriously though I am not sure about that. In that instance Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem are no longer exclusive either.

Mobile FTL is great. You can respond to things more quickly and it just flows so well. Unfortunately you lose your hard earned ships if you delete the app.

My laptop has a touch screen and a Nvidia 840M. Far better experience than mobile could ever provide.

Mobile FTL is great. You can respond to things more quickly and it just flows so well. Unfortunately you lose your hard earned ships if you delete the app.

Some mobile games are fun as hell. But in my opinion the platform is not primarily designed for gaming. And I feel as if for most users playing on mobile is just something to tide you over until you get back to your XBox One or PC.

I don't think anyone really chooses mobile as their 'platform of choice'.

One thing mobile does shine on that I'm starting to use it for quite a bit is DS emulation. Nothing like an actual roughly-DS-sized touch screen to nail the feel of an actual DS.
Also most decent DS games are better than most actual native mobile games these days.

Some mobile games are fun as hell. But in my opinion the platform is not primarily designed for gaming. And I feel as if for most users playing on mobile is just something to tide you over until you get back to your XBox One or PC.

I don't think anyone really chooses mobile as their 'platform of choice'.

That's true. With school and a new job mobile gaming is about all I have time for now.

Of course dedicated portable consoles also fill that role.

Instead of getting a meme console like the Ouya, you could just build a small PC. It'll be slightly larger and slightly more expensive, but with several orders of magnitude more capability.

Or just save up a spend a lot on a really high-quality "desktop replacement" laptop, which can serve as both a gaming machine and a portable workstation, such as the higher-end Dell XPS laptops which have GTX 1050s and quad-core i7 processors. That model, which is currently selling for around $1500, is easily more powerful than any of the current-generation consoles while also being portable and functional as a work computer.

Some mobile games are fun as hell. But in my opinion the platform is not primarily designed for gaming. And I feel as if for most users playing on mobile is just something to tide you over until you get back to your XBox One or PC.

I don't think anyone really chooses mobile as their 'platform of choice'.

Mobile is a great cash cow. But personally, the mobile part of the equation has to add something to the game. Ingress (or Pokemon Go) for example. I really hope that the RL world gets included more into mobile gaming.

I really like what Fallout 4 tried with mobile (not Shelter, I mean the companion app). Unfortunately it needed a pretty large screen to work correctly and the tablet I had at the time was hella unstable so I couldn't utilize it to the fullest extent.

But really, mobile is great for emulation, especially now that most phones have processors faster than the PS2.

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

Nah that's just some marketing buzz. Most Xbox 'exclusives' that have made their way to PC have been pretty underwhelming, especially compared to PC-designed games of similar purpose.

Compare Forza Motorsport 6: Apex to Assetto Corsa and you'll see what I mean.

[The first Galactic Republic]

My laptop has a touch screen and a Nvidia 840M. Far better experience than mobile could ever provide.

I actually have a touch screen laptop but maybe I don't want fingerprints on the thing?

Instead of getting a meme console like the Ouya, you could just build a small PC. It'll be slightly larger and slightly more expensive, but with several orders of magnitude more capability?

"Instead of enjoying portable things, why don't you just spend more money on a non-portable thing?"

That's really not convenient.

[Cisairse]

My laptop has a touch screen and a Nvidia 840M. Far better experience than mobile could ever provide.

I actually have a touch screen laptop but maybe I don't want fingerprints on the thing?

That's inane. Why would you purchase a touch-capable laptop if you don't want to use the touch capability?

"Instead of enjoying portable things, why don't you just spend more money on a non-portable thing?"

That's really not convenient.

A mini-ITX PC is just as portable as an Ouya. I also feel that you missed my point, based on how you removed the remainder of my statement.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I actually have a touch screen laptop but maybe I don't want fingerprints on the thing?

That's inane. Why would you purchase a touch-capable laptop if you don't want to use the touch capability?

"Instead of enjoying portable things, why don't you just spend more money on a non-portable thing?"

That's really not convenient.

A mini-ITX PC is just as portable as an Ouya. I also feel that you missed my point, based on how you removed the remainder of my statement.

For the laptop it was the specs and performance that got me. The touch screen was just there and I didn't mind it. This isn't a small laptop by the way.

The remainder of your statement kind of describes the laptop I already have, but it doesn't compare to an iPad or a 3DS. It's big. It needs a plug because battery life isn't amazing. I need space for a mouse. The fact that it can run games my mobile devices can't run is ruined in regards to the touch screen because those games aren't made for touch screen.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Doesn't matter how you cut it, ME:A is really bad

I'm pretty sure even ME 1 had better animations.


You're only wasting your time and money on a subpar game

I don't think it counts as wasting my money if I thoroughly enjoyed myself and spent dozens upon dozens of hours with it?

Here's the objective gaming Tier list.

1. Games I like
2. Games you don't like
3. Games I don't like
4. Spore
5. Games you like

[Cisairse]

I don't think it counts as wasting my money if I thoroughly enjoyed myself and spent dozens upon dozens of hours with it?

Here's the objective gaming Tier list.

1. Games I like
2. Games you don't like
3. Games I don't like
4. Spore
5. Games you like

I enjoyed Spore.

[Dylar]

I don't think it counts as wasting my money if I thoroughly enjoyed myself and spent dozens upon dozens of hours with it?

Here's the objective gaming Tier list.

1. Games I like
2. Games you don't like
3. Games I don't like
4. Spore
5. Games you like

Pretty accurate.
1.Republic Commando, StarCraft
2. ME:A
3. The Sims
4.Spore
5. ME
That's my objective game tier llist.

[Cadonica]

Here's the objective gaming Tier list.

1. Games I like
2. Games you don't like
3. Games I don't like
4. Spore
5. Games you like

I enjoyed Spore.

Same here. Sure it got old relatively quickly and it has aged terribly but it was great while it lasted. It's one of those things I occasionally play for the nostalgia value

[Onekawa-Nukanor]

I enjoyed Spore.

Same here. Sure it got old relatively quickly and it has aged terribly but it was great while it lasted. It's one of those things I occasionally play for the nostalgia value

Spore to me always progresss like this

Cell Stage: Oh this is neat. Get me some electric sacks and buzz the shit outta some other micro-organisms.

Creature Stage: Wow this is awesome! Go hunt other animals, go wild with the creature designener. Next thing you know your a four legged flying tyrannosaurus absolutely dominating the ecosystem.

Tribal Stage: This is... alright. I can roll with an RTS lite for a change of pace. The tribal clothes are neat.

Civilisation Stage: Now you haven't improved the RTS, you've just weighed it down with bigger scale, it's still too basic. Also, why are all the remaining designers so dull compared to the creature designer? Why is everything I design so ugly and why do I have to design all of the buildings? Fuck it I'll use a template and give it a new pattern, have no time for all this shit.

Galactic Stage: One ship? I have to carve out a galactic empire with a single ship and whatever my allies can scrounge together? And I have to do trading, colonisation, defence and diplomacy? What happened to all that RTS bullshit earlier! Now would be perfect for that and instead you have me doing all this fucking busy work. Oh the Grox are in the centre of the galaxy? Well who gives a fuck.

I still like spore, since I think the creature stage is great (and I like it more than Maxis' other simulator, the Sims) and carries it. I just wish the latter stages were better.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Having a lot of fun with Andromeda so far, especially after i got past the parts i played in the trial.

Also Drack is awesome.

[Corrian]

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

I always thought that was weird. The Microsoft thing. Microsoft pretty much eliminated the reason for me to even get an Xbox, which I was barely interested in in the first place. But now I can simply play them on my PC? So bye the need for an Xbox ever.

[Corrian]

On mobile games, I'd probably buy them. I know, the heresy. But there are some really good ones if you actively search for them (Flappy Birds and Angry Birds do not count, though I don't think Angry Birds is that bad)

[Liriena]

Playing some Portal 2.

Gosh, GLaDOS is so mean.

[Corrian]

Playing some Portal 2.

Gosh, GLaDOS is so mean.

Portal 2 is amazing.

[Dylar]

On mobile games, I'd probably buy them. I know, the heresy. But there are some really good ones if you actively search for them (Flappy Birds and Angry Birds do not count, though I don't think Angry Birds is that bad)

Stupid iPad being slow...

[Dylar]

On mobile games, I'd probably buy them. I know, the heresy. But there are some really good ones if you actively search for them (Flappy Birds and Angry Birds do not count, though I don't think Angry Birds is that bad)

[The Rebel Alliances]

Was the triple post necessary?

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

I always thought that was weird. The Microsoft thing. Microsoft pretty much eliminated the reason for me to even get an Xbox, which I was barely interested in in the first place. But now I can simply play them on my PC? So bye the need for an Xbox ever.

From what I can tell Micrososft is steering to leave the traditional console format. Integrating their XBox and PC players into a more unified community, honestly their is some appeal I can see in that. Lets say two friends want to play together but ones uses the XBox One and the other plays on PC. Normally that would not be possible but now it seems they can play Halo Wars 2 together without one of them buying the opposite platform.

It just takes away from the XBox in the way of 'exclusives' in the traditional Console Wars perspective.

And who knows how the Scorpio will change things for Microsoft. We just need to wait and see.

So, is anyone here interested in the Switch? With the latest Nintendo console out now does anyone have any thoughts or predictions for it? Honestly it seems the internet is filled with either doom and gloom decrees or praise for this being the savior of the company.

I personally don't see how this can perform worse commercially than the Wii U(Which I love). Nintendo is obviously trying to appeal to as large of a market as possible without offending anyone with the Switch and I believe it will work out for them. Do you want a fairly capable Nintendo home console to play your Legend of Zelda and Mario? Got you covered. Want to play those same console experiences on the go along with indie and 3rd party titles? Got that too. Did you enjoy motion controls like Wii Sports Resort, Red Steel 2 or Conduit? Check. So basically Nintendo hopes to capture their loyal fans, core gamers, handheld fans and casuals all with one machine.

It's basically innovation vs improvement at this point for the big N.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

I always thought that was weird. The Microsoft thing. Microsoft pretty much eliminated the reason for me to even get an Xbox, which I was barely interested in in the first place. But now I can simply play them on my PC? So bye the need for an Xbox ever.

Not all Xbox games I don't think.

[Husseinarti]

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

come on show us you playing skyrim on it

its soooo good then why don't they keep shoving skyrim on our faces?

[The Rebel Alliances]

I always thought that was weird. The Microsoft thing. Microsoft pretty much eliminated the reason for me to even get an Xbox, which I was barely interested in in the first place. But now I can simply play them on my PC? So bye the need for an Xbox ever.

Not all Xbox games I don't think.

Seems to be some of the more major titles. Such as Gears and Halo Wars.

I just watched a video on youtube comparing the Nintendo Switch to the XBox One S and PS4 Pro. I think we need to slow down just a bit here. I know we console gamers love our console war comparisons but the Switch has been out less than a month. It's competition has had essentially three years to pick up steam. As a Switch owner myself I think we should give the new Nintendo Combatant until the holiday season of this year before we start throwing it in the ring at least.

And a random thought on the exclusive discussion, doesn't Microsoft's cross play essentially remove the point from 'XBox exclusives'? If it works the way I understand it then I feel like we essentially have Microsoft players now rather than XBox. With the cross platform play, Project Scorpio and all on the horizon.

come on show us you playing skyrim on it

its soooo good then why don't they keep shoving skyrim on our faces?

Maybe I will, ya know...once it gets released to the Switch.

I must be one of the total of six people to never play that game.

[Federated Kingdom of Prussia]

Question about Space Engineers. Last time I played it sometime last year, it had gotten an update that made it almost impossible to play on my computer. Extremely slow FPS, the response time to control inputs was almost a second, which made me really sad because it is a fun game.

At first I thought it was because my computer isn't good enough. But that doesn't make sense, because it ran the game just fine before that update - I really can't remember which update it was but I think it was the one which introduced DirectX 11. I have a Toshiba Satellite Radius P55W - an i7 processor, 8GB of RAM, and a full 1 terabyte hard drive. It's not quite a clunker, I run War Thunder and Skyrim without any major issues. So I'm starting to think it may have been an optimization issues with Space Engineers, given that the game is still in beta.

So now I get to my question: Is the game likely to improve in performance for computers that aren't quite in the upper echelon in terms of performance? For those that have the game, has the optimization improved?

[Industrial Republics]

Not all Xbox games I don't think.

Seems to be some of the more major titles. Such as Gears and Halo Wars.

Key point to that is both of those games are being developed by studios owned by Microsoft.

[Gurori]

Playing some Portal 2.

Gosh, GLaDOS is so mean.

We laughed and laughed.

Except I wasn't laughing.

[Barboneia]

Apparently they're making a fucking Assassin's Creed TV series. What the fuck. Who asked for this?

[The Rebel Alliances]

Apparently they're making a fucking Assassin's Creed TV series. What the fuck. Who asked for this?

Well, was the movie successful?

Random question, when you play games do you play just one at a time or multiple games at once?

I normally bounce between a few games at once. Right now I am playing Breath of the Wild on Switch, Bayonetta and Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U and Sonic Unleashed on Wii.