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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:42 pm

We all probably have Movies and TV shows that are disliked widely that we can't get enough of or just don't understand the hate or indifference for. Here we list some of them. Feel free to post whichever ones come up and why you like them.
Please feel free to comment on other's choices. It makes it more interesting.

To start of with the ones I can Remember right now

9

Sort of a stretch because it isn't disliked. It's just not as recognized as it should. Everyone whines about there being "no good adult animated movies these days".
Well what was wrong with this one? It was creative, It was tearjerking, it had actually pretty intriguing symbolism and legitimately subtle themes (All the Rag dolls, if you examine the film, are reflections of the scientists different qualities. And reflect his interaction with his ego and the State's)

I don't know. It's actually one of my favorite movies. It's such a shame it wasn't recognized like it deserved to be.

Dune (David Lynch adaptation)
Pretty widely seen as bad. I don't get why. It has that slow, contemplative atmospheric edge some would call "boring". But I like it though.

It was as good a film adaptation of Dune you could probably pull off.

The Weirding Modules were bullshit though. You could have given those to a class of third graders and the result would be the same.

China, IL
Sort of obscure one on Adult Swim. But everyone I talk to thinks it's stupid mindless garbage. I think it's actually pretty damn funny. Baby Cakes alone is the best thing ever. Maybe I just get Brad Neely's humor. I dunno.

Bleach (EARLY ARCS)
I'm not denying the whole series is mostly shit. But the first 50 or so episodes, handled correctly, could have been a great series on their own.

It's legitimately made for teens on the cusp of adulthood without trying to be overly edgy or juvenile. Not deep literature. But emotionally and mentally stimulating stuff. The Fights are creative, The Characters original interactions are great.

Yeah, yeah. Shit taste. But whatever. The first episodes were solid.

RV
Suffered from the usual dumb gross family comedy ass shit. But Robin Williams was particularly funny in it. And the jokes worked pretty well all through it. Should be considered better.

A Series of Unfortunate Events
Blinded by Nostalgia? Eh. Maybe. But it was a pretty good YA adaptation. The acting was great. The set design is lots of fun to look at. And how often do you get Black Comedy for kids? Jim Carrey was great in it. I don't care what people say.

Mirrormask
Love the artwork (CG actually used appropriately. Wow!), The Characters were great. Delightfully weird one liners everywhere. A pretty unique and ballsy bildungsroman.

The Story, I understand is pretty clunky. With pretty simplistic and out of touch analysis of youth. Some bad acting from the main character. A lot. Sometimes. But nothing deserving to have the film seen as a bad one, I don't think.


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Postby Alanis Star » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:52 pm

Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Yeah, probably the weakest of the four movies. It's a little corny, and the fridge to survive the nuclear explosion was a tad over the top, but hey, I have fun watching it.


Scooby-Doo: The Movie
Again, a well-intended fun. The CGI for SD was a tad disappointing though. One of my favorite parts is Fred getting face-punched by Scooby himself, though the latter doesn't resort to violence in the original show, so that's something that fans don't really like. Actors are a tad too old to portray the characters.


That's the two movies I could think of so far.

Why "9" though? I mean, why is it rather disliked? I actually love the movie, especially the setting. It's terrifying that
the whole world got its back handed by killer robots.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:04 pm

Alanis Star wrote:Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Yeah, probably the weakest of the four movies. It's a little corny, and the fridge to survive the nuclear explosion was a tad over the top, but hey, I have fun watching it.


Scooby-Doo: The Movie
Again, a well-intended fun. The CGI for SD was a tad disappointing though. One of my favorite parts is Fred getting face-punched by Scooby himself, though the latter doesn't resort to violence in the original show, so that's something that fans don't really like. Actors are a tad too old to portray the characters.


That's the two movies I could think of so far.

Why "9" though? I mean, why is it rather disliked? I actually love the movie, especially the setting. It's terrifying that
the whole world got its back handed by killer robots.

Eh. Crystal Skull was pretty bad, I think. Ancient Aliens does not mix with Indiana Jones.

But I agree on the Scooby Doo movie. That really takes me back to late elementary School.

9 has a not too good score on Rotten Tomatoes. And most people who also watched it that I talk to think that it was mediocre at best.
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Postby Narland » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:23 pm

Alanis Star wrote:Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Yeah, probably the weakest of the four movies. It's a little corny, and the fridge to survive the nuclear explosion was a tad over the top, but hey, I have fun watching it.


Scooby-Doo: The Movie
Again, a well-intended fun. The CGI for SD was a tad disappointing though. One of my favorite parts is Fred getting face-punched by Scooby himself, though the latter doesn't resort to violence in the original show, so that's something that fans don't really like. Actors are a tad too old to portray the characters.


That's the two movies I could think of so far.

Why "9" though? I mean, why is it rather disliked? I actually love the movie, especially the setting. It's terrifying that
the whole world got its back handed by killer robots.


Re: Crystal Skull--
I didn't have a problem with the aliens since some pulp fiction had them, as well as mystically powered crystal items popularized by the likes of Edgar Cayce and other popular mystics in the 1st half of the 20th Century--yes, America had them in droves and most are thankfully long forgotten. At one time there was a strong black market in forging fake artifacts like crystal skulls--so it is period appropriate. I am surprised that this wasn't common knowledge for the average Indiana Jones fan.
Re: Scooby Doo--
I was disappointed that they used older actors and did not take the time to storyboard a coherent story line. It was as if they were deciding on the story line in the middle of post-production. Other than that it was okay for a discount matinee.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:27 pm

Alanis Star wrote:Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Yeah, probably the weakest of the four movies. It's a little corny, and the fridge to survive the nuclear explosion was a tad over the top, but hey, I have fun watching it.


Scooby-Doo: The Movie
Again, a well-intended fun. The CGI for SD was a tad disappointing though. One of my favorite parts is Fred getting face-punched by Scooby himself, though the latter doesn't resort to violence in the original show, so that's something that fans don't really like. Actors are a tad too old to portray the characters.


That's the two movies I could think of so far.

Why "9" though? I mean, why is it rather disliked? I actually love the movie, especially the setting. It's terrifying that
the whole world got its back handed by killer robots.

People think that 9 is a rather standard/mediocre movie, with the only good part being the graphics.

I personally haven't seen it, but I think it looks rather interesting. I wish the US would make more teen/adult animated movies, but oh well, I guess I must continue finding this in Japan...
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:19 pm

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RE: For the Indiana Jones Trilogy, err... Four-ology (I don't know the word for 4).

1st: The Lost Crusade. The tank chase was quite fun to watch, and it's amusing to see
Henry managing to burn the carpet. Though I don't get that part: If you let go of the lighter, isn't it supposed to stop burning?


2nd: Raiders of the Lost Ark. Total classic. The snake pit was quite amusing and heartpounding. The ending was a little... anticlimatic?
All of them died quickly in one fell swoop from opening the Ark.


3rd: Temple of Doom. A little too dark for an Indiana Jones movie. It's just too sinister. Willie is too weak of a character and I can count the number of times she helped out, with one hand.

4th: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Like it, but don't really love it.
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Postby East Gondwana » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:01 am

Star Wars Prequel Trilogy
I actually think these are really good films. They're not carbon-copies of the OT, but I thik that's part of their strength; they tell the story from an alternative perspective. They add great depth and somewhat unconventional traits to the character of Anakin Skywalker, they gave us Padme, and the special effects are really great (AOTC had some weaker effects, but overall I thought it was pretty good - TPM is the most visually stunning of the 7 films imo). The costume design was incredible, the political background and story really gave a whole added dimension to the Star Wars universe, and we got some epic action scenes. Yes the romance was badly-written, yes some aliens were obscene racial stereotypes, yes George Lucas's direction restricted Hayden Christensen to a sometimes stilted performance, but nothing is perfect, and they really weren't anywhere near as bad as everyone makes them out to be.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:27 am

For me Alien 3, ive always liked it even though most people seem to hate it.

I liked the setting, the characters and going back to a single alien, also it was a new design as well.
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East Gondwana wrote:Star Wars Prequel Trilogy
I actually think these are really good films. They're not carbon-copies of the OT, but I thik that's part of their strength; they tell the story from an alternative perspective. They add great depth and somewhat unconventional traits to the character of Anakin Skywalker, they gave us Padme, and the special effects are really great (AOTC had some weaker effects, but overall I thought it was pretty good - TPM is the most visually stunning of the 7 films imo). The costume design was incredible, the political background and story really gave a whole added dimension to the Star Wars universe, and we got some epic action scenes. Yes the romance was badly-written, yes some aliens were obscene racial stereotypes, yes George Lucas's direction restricted Hayden Christensen to a sometimes stilted performance, but nothing is perfect, and they really weren't anywhere near as bad as everyone makes them out to be.


I agree about TPM. Some people just had unreasonable expectations or got upset when it wasn't what they were expecting. It is definitely more juvenile than the original trilogy, but as a kids movie, it works fine.

I didn't like the other prequels. I felt like the emotionally flat acting really got in the way of the story, and the romance was boring.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:57 pm

Revenge of the Sith and I don't mind The Phantom Menace either.

I also like Shark Tale but critics seem to hate it for some reason (35% from Rotten Tomatoes and 48% from Metacritic).

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The Hulk (2003)
It gets lots of hate for its CGI, but come on, it was 2003. It looked pretty good then, but of course it's gonna look trash now. It's outdated. I also liked the story and the fact they actually portrayed the hulk as getting bigger and his muscles growing the angrier he gets.
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Postby Dushan » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:23 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:We all probably have Movies and TV shows that are disliked widely that we can't get enough of or just don't understand the hate or indifference for. Here we list some of them. Feel free to post whichever ones come up and why you like them.
Please feel free to comment on other's choices. It makes it more interesting.

To start of with the ones I can Remember right now

9

Sort of a stretch because it isn't disliked. It's just not as recognized as it should. Everyone whines about there being "no good adult animated movies these days".
Well what was wrong with this one? It was creative, It was tearjerking, it had actually pretty intriguing symbolism and legitimately subtle themes (All the Rag dolls, if you examine the film, are reflections of the scientists different qualities. And reflect his interaction with his ego and the State's)

I don't know. It's actually one of my favorite movies. It's such a shame it wasn't recognized like it deserved to be.

Dune (David Lynch adaptation)
Pretty widely seen as bad. I don't get why. It has that slow, contemplative atmospheric edge some would call "boring". But I like it though.

It was as good a film adaptation of Dune you could probably pull off.

The Weirding Modules were bullshit though. You could have given those to a class of third graders and the result would be the same.

China, IL
Sort of obscure one on Adult Swim. But everyone I talk to thinks it's stupid mindless garbage. I think it's actually pretty damn funny. Baby Cakes alone is the best thing ever. Maybe I just get Brad Neely's humor. I dunno.

Bleach (EARLY ARCS)
I'm not denying the whole series is mostly shit. But the first 50 or so episodes, handled correctly, could have been a great series on their own.

It's legitimately made for teens on the cusp of adulthood without trying to be overly edgy or juvenile. Not deep literature. But emotionally and mentally stimulating stuff. The Fights are creative, The Characters original interactions are great.

Yeah, yeah. Shit taste. But whatever. The first episodes were solid.

RV
Suffered from the usual dumb gross family comedy ass shit. But Robin Williams was particularly funny in it. And the jokes worked pretty well all through it. Should be considered better.

A Series of Unfortunate Events
Blinded by Nostalgia? Eh. Maybe. But it was a pretty good YA adaptation. The acting was great. The set design is lots of fun to look at. And how often do you get Black Comedy for kids? Jim Carrey was great in it. I don't care what people say.

Mirrormask
Love the artwork (CG actually used appropriately. Wow!), The Characters were great. Delightfully weird one liners everywhere. A pretty unique and ballsy bildungsroman.

The Story, I understand is pretty clunky. With pretty simplistic and out of touch analysis of youth. Some bad acting from the main character. A lot. Sometimes. But nothing deserving to have the film seen as a bad one, I don't think.


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Oh David Lynch's Dune is definetively one of my favorite Movies that is often being panned, disliked by many others. I find it genius, despite I can understand why so many People would be confused or even repulsed by it. I've recently started getting into the Books and they're extremly interesting as well. Mirrormask I haven't seen yet but it is on my to watch list.

Some random Movies/Shows that come to mind:

- Star Trek: The Motion Picture from 1979 Widely disliked and panned. I found it pretty good.

- Flash Gordon Even the same producer as Dune, though very different kind of movie.

- 1941 Early Comedy Movie from Steven Spielberg about a crazy Pilot, a japanese Submarine and general chaos in Los Angeles in the aftermath of Pearl Habour

- Equilibrium Follow up of Matrix often criticized, but I still find its a good movie. Also with an early Christian Blade.

- Barry Lyndon Sometimes considered one of Kubricks weaker Movies. I do completly disagree.

- Neon Genesis Evangelion Hated by many, loved by others. Few between that.

Honorable mentions:

- Baron Munchhausen (by Terry Gilliam 1989) I kinda liked that one, despite few others do afaik. Havent seen it in ages though. The same goes for some other Terry Gilliam movies while we are at.

- Babylon 5 The dislike for this one is great, and granted: from Today's perspective it comes across as cheesy 90s scifi show with CGI effects that are below today's video games. But it is not if you give it some chance and has some very stringent Storyline and some thought food too.

Theres much more though...
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:27 pm

I really like Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
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Postby Jordkloden » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:55 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:I really like Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Oh, same here. I saw it with one of my friends, and I'm super excited for the rest of the DC movies.
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I like Stealth. CGI and fight scenes were good.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:14 pm

Anollasia wrote:Revenge of the Sith and I don't mind The Phantom Menace either.

I also like Shark Tale but critics seem to hate it for some reason (35% from Rotten Tomatoes and 48% from Metacritic).

Revenge of The Sith was actually pretty decent I thought.

A lot of really outstanding moments alongside a sort of on and off again plot.

like this scene. Probably the most legitimately emotional the Prequels got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_YozYt8l-g

The Romance was still pretty awful though.
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Postby Bilanda » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:28 pm

Osmosis Jones. I mention the movie and people either really love it or really hate it; never encountered someone who saw it and had a neutral opinion.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:32 pm

Plenty of movies. I'll come back with more.

The Transformers movies. I only really like the first one and the fourth one. The others are popcorn films but still entertaining.

Superhero Movies: Green Hornet, Sky High, Iron Man 2, Hulk (2003), Spider-Man 3, the X-Men Trilogy and X-men Origins: Wolverine.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:49 pm

Bilanda wrote:Osmosis Jones. I mention the movie and people either really love it or really hate it; never encountered someone who saw it and had a neutral opinion.

I kinda like it too. It was actually pretty funny and creative.
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