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Is Milo Moire's Performance Art Pornography or Free Speech?

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Is Milo Moire's Performance Art Pornography or Free Speech?

Postby New Jerzylvania » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:47 pm

Is Milo Moire's performance art pornography or is it a political statement or both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZf8ZZrwjQ

The video is 41 seconds long and is not sexually graphic. However, you will get the idea.

She was arrested in London for her performance art, but was not in Dusseldorf or Amsterdam.

Milo Moiré is a Swiss conceptual and performance artist, painter, and psychologist.

Please weigh in with your opinions NS!
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Postby USS Trumptanic » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:59 pm

Its the real reason England left the EU. Europe is just way too sexy for their skirts. They can't "handle it." :o

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Postby Meryuma » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:47 pm

Is "pornography" really the word you're looking for? Pornography is defended as free speech in many countries and has been for a while.

Anyways, I think it's pretty cool. Kinda punk.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:30 pm

Meryuma wrote:Is "pornography" really the word you're looking for? Pornography is defended as free speech in many countries and has been for a while.

Anyways, I think it's pretty cool. Kinda punk.


Pornography is only the issue as she is selling videos of the fondling actions inside the mirror box for 8 Euros a pop. Some sexually repressed people are calling that porn.
Sure is a helluva better way to express one's inner feelings than shooting dozens of innocent people at a public venue. She is quite cool and I'd love to meet her. I hope she comes and performs in NYC perhaps on Wall Street or in DC, like in front of the United States Supreme Court Building. Then we'd see some really interesting reactions and commentary. I wouldn't blame her though if she stayed in Europe.
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Postby Talo Imperium » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:45 pm

Her stuff is weird as fuckall. But she appears to be making a point in the video that people ought to be able to decide how they want to be touched.
And by the gods, this isn't porn. There isn't even money involved!
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Meryuma wrote:Is "pornography" really the word you're looking for? Pornography is defended as free speech in many countries and has been for a while.

Anyways, I think it's pretty cool. Kinda punk.


Pornography is only the issue as she is selling videos of the fondling actions inside the mirror box for 8 Euros a pop. Some sexually repressed people are calling that porn.
Sure is a helluva better way to express one's inner feelings than shooting dozens of innocent people at a public venue. She is quite cool and I'd love to meet her. I hope she comes and performs in NYC perhaps on Wall Street or in DC, like in front of the United States Supreme Court Building. Then we'd see some really interesting reactions and commentary. I wouldn't blame her though if she stayed in Europe.

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Why I think this thread should be put in general instead
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:49 pm

The Federation of Kendor wrote:Why I think this thread should be put in general instead


Why is that? Please explain.
Don't you think the Mods would be more insightful in determining that? Plus that isn't really the question.
Anyhow, Moire is an artist. If the Mods moved it to General, that would be their decision and I'd be cool with it. However it's not anywhere near what the discussion is about.

Maybe someone, perhaps you my friend, can tell us whether you think sexually repressed people are fearful of her?
Some may be more comfortable with her if she pulled out a Lugar sling-shot and began shooting men in the crotch and called that art instead.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:00 pm

Why not both?
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Postby Adytus » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:02 pm

This is just like that issue you get!

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:11 pm

Adytus wrote:This is just like that issue you get!

Porn is expression, everything is expression.


Not everything is considered obscene though.

Uiiop wrote:Why not both?



Duplication.
However, a completely different angle on this subject could be pursued there.
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... Both?
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New haven america wrote:... Both?

Yes.

Why not?
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:44 pm

Benuty wrote:
New haven america wrote:... Both?

Yes.

Why not?


How about a man that went out with Milo and did the exact same thing? That is allowing people a 30 second fondling of his genitalia inside a mirror box which he wears. Would that be different than what Milo is doing and why?
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Postby Devon Teyson » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:45 pm

It gets me off...
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Postby Adytus » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:52 pm

Devon Teyson wrote:It gets me off...

Does that make it obscene?
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:04 pm

Adytus wrote:
Devon Teyson wrote:It gets me off...

Does that make it obscene?


Depends on where that occurs and also who if anyone is there. If no one sees it, how could it be obscene?
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Postby Frank Gallagher » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:32 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Adytus wrote:Does that make it obscene?


Depends on where that occurs and also who if anyone is there. If no one sees it, how could it be obscene?


if a penis is out in the forest does it become obscenity if no one's there to see it? :p

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Postby Dagashi Shojo » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:30 pm

Are pornography and art mutually exclusive?

Granted, this doesn't seem like either.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:45 pm

Dagashi Shojo wrote:Are pornography and art mutually exclusive?

Granted, this doesn't seem like either.


To you. It's certainly a personal observation and it's very subjective, so it depends on the individual whom you've asked. That's what makes this whole subject so damned interesting.

Well, that and the obvious titillation factor. 8)
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