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[Gurori]

Sonic Boom is kid friendly my ass.

[Licana]

>post-Bohemia Operation Flashpoint

why?

[Veceria]

Is that the one where you start with a SCAR-L?

I don't know, I started using a Marksman weapon as soon as I could.

Is it the one with four classes and you have to unlock equipment? The one with "let the bodies hit the floor"?

[Imperializt Russia]

I wasn't talking about Arma I'd just started playing Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising again..
I probably should've specified...

Is that the one where you start with a SCAR-L?

Only a couple levels have SCAR-L I think. You spend most of the game with an M16A4 probably.

[The Lendol Archipelago]

I don't know, I started using a Marksman weapon as soon as I could.

Is it the one with four classes and you have to unlock equipment? The one with "let the bodies hit the floor"?

There are classes, but (on singleplayer @ least) you can't choose which one you go as and you don't get to decide your loadout (you can pick guns up in the mission, that's pretty exciting).

[Imperializt Russia]

Is it the one with four classes and you have to unlock equipment? The one with "let the bodies hit the floor"?

There are classes, but (on singleplayer @ least) you can't choose which one you go as and you don't get to decide your loadout (you can pick guns up in the mission, that's pretty exciting).

I think in Red River you can pick a class, and just assign different ones to the squad.

[Veceria]

Is it the one with four classes and you have to unlock equipment? The one with "let the bodies hit the floor"?

There are classes, but (on singleplayer @ least) you can't choose which one you go as and you don't get to decide your loadout (you can pick guns up in the mission, that's pretty exciting).

Just looked it up on wikipedia, it's the one with the SCAR.
The one I uninstalled pretty soon because it was pretty buggy after release.

[Gauthier]

Sonic Boom is kid friendly my ass.

Unused voice clips.

[Licana]

the most atmospheric survival horror game of our generation - IGN

[Imperializt Russia]

the most atmospheric survival horror game of our generation - IGN

I was in actual hysterics, watching his actual hysterics.

[New Grestin]

Man, the Sombra ARG is crazy.

And all of this for a character that's probably going to be disappointing anyway.

Maybe Blizzard will just fucking give up and make us unlock Sombra with Loot-Boxes.

At least people've finally stopped jerking them off after this whole "Summer Games" bullshit.

I'm not sure it's even known if it will be the same characters. Might be different people in the same world. Which might be best to be honest.

And yeah, the characters are supposed to be realistic and "grey", and Joel is definitely not a goody two shoes guy.

I know, and like you said, it's probably for the best.

That said, I still would've liked to have had an option in dooming the entire human species.

[Zeinbrad]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

[Licana]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

but all of that shit just makes me super hard

i guess i missed my life's tru calling as a muhrine

[Wisconsin9]

the most atmospheric survival horror game of our generation - IGN

No, no, wrong Alien game. You're thinking of their review of Colonial Marines.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

I've only played Cold War, but the game still asks me to be this Rambo protagonist that's supposed to do everything himself so I'm not sure I buy that message.

[Licana]

I've only played Cold War, but the game still asks me to be this Rambo protagonist that's supposed to do everything himself so I'm not sure I buy that message.

>Cold War

that's probably because the AI was 1000% trash

[Zeinbrad]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

I've only played Cold War, but the game still asks me to be this Rambo protagonist that's supposed to do everything himself so I'm not sure I buy that message.

You play as multiple people in Cold War and you can still die pretty quickly. It takes one or two shots to kill you.

Also, that like....2001? I'm talking about ARMA 2 and 3. You know, the one's people care about?

[New Grestin]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

I think this is what you're looking for.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I've only played Cold War, but the game still asks me to be this Rambo protagonist that's supposed to do everything himself so I'm not sure I buy that message.

You play as multiple people in Cold War and you can still die pretty quickly. It takes one or two shots to kill you.

Also, that like....2001? I'm talking about ARMA 2 and 3. You know, the one's people care about?

Cold War was a classic. The only one that's not a dicking around simulator.

Not that that's bad.

Also you're pushing on a Moving the Goalposts.

[Zeinbrad]

You play as multiple people in Cold War and you can still die pretty quickly. It takes one or two shots to kill you.

Also, that like....2001? I'm talking about ARMA 2 and 3. You know, the one's people care about?

Cold War was a classic. The only one that's not a dicking around simulator.

Not that that's bad.

Also you're pushing on a Moving the Goalposts.

Hmm? I don't think you know what moving the goalposts mean.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Cold War was a classic. The only one that's not a dicking around simulator.

Not that that's bad.

Also you're pushing on a Moving the Goalposts.

Hmm? I don't think you know what moving the goalposts mean.

Without specifying which ARMA you're talking about, you can't dismiss my claim about Cold War being a kink in your theory.

Unless you're just blurting out things.

[Zeinbrad]

Hmm? I don't think you know what moving the goalposts mean.

Without specifying which ARMA you're talking about, you can't dismiss my claim about Cold War being a kink in your theory.

Unless you're just blurting out things.

I have 88 hours in Operation Flashpoint Cold War. It used to be the game I played every day. Just to note.


Also, how is specifying which ARMA I'm talking about dismissing my theory? Cold War wasn't even a ARMA game, the first ARMA game was This. It's only called ARMA now because it was made by Bohemia before they split.

Hell this guy explains it better then me- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-228auScq1g

[The first Galactic Republic]

Without specifying which ARMA you're talking about, you can't dismiss my claim about Cold War being a kink in your theory.

Unless you're just blurting out things.

I have 88 hours in Operation Flashpoint Cold War. It used to be the game I played every day. Just to note.


Also, how is specifying which ARMA I'm talking about dismissing my theory? Cold War wasn't even a ARMA game, the first ARMA game was This. It's only called ARMA now because it was made by Bohemia before they split.

Hell this guy explains it better then me- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-228auScq1g

It's still considered to be ARMA though. It's not just a spiritual successor to Cold War when it was originally released. It was at first, but now it's an example of canon welding. Err, series welding at least.

Dismissing your theory? You made the defensive comment about Cold War. I'm not dismissing the theory, I just don't see it from Cold War specifically.

[Husseinarti]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

"Hey are we being engaged?"

"I don't know those snaps might be ours...?"

"Ughhh hey *other guys* are you engaged right now?"

"I thought you were shooting."

[Imperializt Russia]

I once saw a video (Forget who it was) that said ARMA was a more effective anti-war game then any actual 'anti-war' games.

The reason was that it's the closest thing to 'real' war (glitches and such notwithstanding), so while anti-war games tend to pound in the message with cynicism and grit by forcing you to do stuff, ARMA shows the random nature of war, the confusion and breakdown of communication, not knowing were your getting shot at and by who. Thus making it more effective at being 'anti-war'. It shows how war sucks and is mostly waiting for someone to start at you and being in a firefight that lasts a few minutes.

I disagree (having not played an Arma title). Partly because glitches are a whole reason why the illusion of immersion is suspended.
Also because Arma seems to have relatively little in the way of atmosphere, compared to something like Red Orchestra, which actively tries to get across the horrors of war (which I also have not played).