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Postby Free-Don » Sat May 06, 2017 10:09 pm

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Ameriganastan wrote:Not to mention
he's technically 7 decades her senior, and has known her for like a few weeks at most.

To be fair, that's longer than how most romances in fiction start.


I ship them in a platonic or fatherly-daughterly or mentor-mentee kinda way. I think they're cute together and I hope they both make it out alive and still be together.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 06, 2017 10:13 pm

Anyway, screw this episode. Let's focus on that promo. Cause
that's totally The Guardian's arena. Round 2 is here!
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Postby Naval Monte » Sat May 06, 2017 10:15 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Anyway, screw this episode. Let's focus on that promo. Cause
that's totally The Guardian's arena. Round 2 is here!


I was thinking that as well but my question is why does Jack not look like what the portal show the Guardian?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 06, 2017 10:17 pm

Naval Monte wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Anyway, screw this episode. Let's focus on that promo. Cause
that's totally The Guardian's arena. Round 2 is here!


I was thinking that as well but my question is why does Jack not look like what the portal show the Guardian?

Chalk it up to that whole 11 year gap in episodes.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 06, 2017 10:17 pm

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Dragoria wrote:That was unpleasant.
Y'know, I imagine it would probably be pretty cool to have a kick-ass female character in a show who didn't get crammed into a completely unnecessary "love interest" role. But I guess we'll never know, because obviously men and women can never be within twenty feet of each other for more than five minutes without someone coming down with a case of the smoochies. Lazy garbage writing is lazy garbage.

Not to mention
he's technically 7 decades her senior, and has known her for like a few weeks at most.

PLUS she spent most of her life brainwashed into being more of a weapon than a person. She's been an individual capable of making her own choices instead of just following mom's order to kill for less time than she's known Jack. So that's a thing.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 06, 2017 10:19 pm

Dragoria wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Not to mention
he's technically 7 decades her senior, and has known her for like a few weeks at most.

PLUS she spent most of her life brainwashed into being more of a weapon than a person. She's been an individual capable of making her own choices instead of just following mom's order to kill for less time than she's known Jack. So that's a thing.

I forgot I had my volume turned up to 70 (Doctor Who video had low volume). My ears are gonna ring for a week.
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Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 06, 2017 10:27 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Dragoria wrote:
PLUS she spent most of her life brainwashed into being more of a weapon than a person. She's been an individual capable of making her own choices instead of just following mom's order to kill for less time than she's known Jack. So that's a thing.

I forgot I had my volume turned up to 70 (Doctor Who video had low volume). My ears are gonna ring for a week.

Oh, sorry. I keep mine at 2% since I use headphones.
But it's kinda' more accurate your way...
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Postby New haven america » Sat May 06, 2017 11:30 pm

Free-Don wrote:
Bycrest wrote:
To be fair, that's longer than how most romances in fiction start.


I ship them in a platonic or fatherly-daughterly or mentor-mentee kinda way. I think they're cute together and I hope they both make it out alive and still be together.

It's gonna end in tragedy.
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Postby Victoriala II » Sat May 06, 2017 11:58 pm

GENNDY WHAT THE FUCK

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Postby Saiwania » Sun May 07, 2017 9:05 pm

Worst episode ever. Almost nothing happened, so you can skip it if you want. This was purely a romance filler.
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:23 pm

Dragoria wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Not to mention
he's technically 7 decades her senior, and has known her for like a few weeks at most.

PLUS she spent most of her life brainwashed into being more of a weapon than a person. She's been an individual capable of making her own choices instead of just following mom's order to kill for less time than she's known Jack. So that's a thing.

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Saiwania wrote:Worst episode ever. Almost nothing happened, so you can skip it if you want. This was purely a romance filler.


I was personally pleased to see a filler episode. Pretty much everything up until now has been all one linear story, everything that happens is pertinent to the plot and shit.

I don't know. I guess I am just one for the underappreciated art of the filler episode.

As for the topic of the day, I'm not opposed to the love interest thing in concept, but it was waaaay too abrupt. You can't introduce a dynamic and give the payoff all in the same episode! I realize they have a very limited number of episodes to work with here, so they kind of need to speed things along, but if the dynamic isn't going to fit in your time constraints then don't fucking use it. Surely you just have them do some space convict murdering and call it a day, no? Surely.

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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:26 pm

I think I would honestly be okay with it if this was clearly something they had planned since the beginning, and had been like developing it the whole time these two have been together. I mean Jack has been like uber-depressed and also starved for companionship for like 50 years or some shit, I wouldn't blame the guy for getting with some lady he knew for a few weeks, but you gotta have a lead up for this typa thing!

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Postby Britanania » Sun May 07, 2017 11:27 pm

Sinovet wrote:I think I would honestly be okay with it if this was clearly something they had planned since the beginning, and had been like developing it the whole time these two have been together. I mean Jack has been like uber-depressed and also starved for companionship for like 50 years or some shit, I wouldn't blame the guy for getting with some lady he knew for a few weeks, but you gotta have a lead up for this typa thing!

I thought it as pretty obvious once they gave Ashi a name she was going to be a love interest.

Also, who's willing to bet she gets killed? Let's make the trope complete.
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:29 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:I think I would honestly be okay with it if this was clearly something they had planned since the beginning, and had been like developing it the whole time these two have been together. I mean Jack has been like uber-depressed and also starved for companionship for like 50 years or some shit, I wouldn't blame the guy for getting with some lady he knew for a few weeks, but you gotta have a lead up for this typa thing!

I thought it as pretty obvious once they gave Ashi a name she was going to be a love interest.

Also, who's willing to bet she gets killed? Let's make the trope complete.

It'd be funny if he brought her back to the past and introduced her to his parents and she's like "Hi I was raised from childhood to kill your son"

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Postby Britanania » Sun May 07, 2017 11:31 pm

Sinovet wrote:
Britanania wrote:I thought it as pretty obvious once they gave Ashi a name she was going to be a love interest.

Also, who's willing to bet she gets killed? Let's make the trope complete.

It'd be funny if he brought her back to the past and introduced her to his parents and she's like "Hi I was raised from childhood to kill your son"

I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.
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Postby Bycrest » Sun May 07, 2017 11:32 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:It'd be funny if he brought her back to the past and introduced her to his parents and she's like "Hi I was raised from childhood to kill your son"

I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.

But wouldn't they be better of?. All of those years tormented by Aku could be avoid if Jack goes back to kill him.
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Postby Britanania » Sun May 07, 2017 11:33 pm

Bycrest wrote:
Britanania wrote:I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.

But wouldn't they be better of?. All of those years tormented by Aku could be avoid if Jack goes back to kill him.

It is better to exist than to not exist, though.

Still, I don't seem him returning. That means he has to fight Aku twice, which I find unlikely from a narrative perspective.
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:34 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:It'd be funny if he brought her back to the past and introduced her to his parents and she's like "Hi I was raised from childhood to kill your son"

I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.

You know this bothered me since that one scientists episode in season 1
He's in a position where he *could* go to the past, but doing so would sacrifice the scientists to like some Aku bots.

But surely, it doesn't matter? I mean, he would go back, defeat Aku, and all those bots and also probably the scientists would never exist so it wouldn't matter that they had to sacrifice themselves

But also it would be a damn shame if they one thing, the ooooone thing Jack has been trying to do since Episode 2 of the series, doesn't get done by the end of the last season and the whole thing is just like oh well.
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Postby Britanania » Sun May 07, 2017 11:38 pm

Sinovet wrote:
Britanania wrote:I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.

You know this bothered me since that one scientists episode in season 1
He's in a position where he *could* go to the past, but doing so would sacrifice the scientists to like some Aku bots.

But surely, it doesn't matter? I mean, he would go back, defeat Aku, and all those bots and also probably the scientists would never exist so it wouldn't matter that they had to sacrifice themselves

But also it would be a damn shame if they one thing, the ooooone thing Jack has been trying to do since Episode 2 of the series, doesn't get done by the end of the last season and the whole thing is just like oh well.

Yet isn't that development? Jack realizing what he wanted and what he needed were two different things?
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:41 pm

Story wise, the show is kind of in a position where no matter how it ends, it was all somewhat for nothing. If he stays, he has failed his whole 5 season objective that kept him going he whole time. If he goes back, everything that happened in the show deletes and its like it never happened in the first place. Even if they kill him, that just makes it all pointless too because we've follows this guy's story for 5 seasons and watched every fight and he just fuckin dies at the end.

To be honest, as much as I dread to see this reboot end, I am kind of excited to see how they're going to end this long ass saga. Not often a show gets an ending, especially one like this, that didn't have an ending planned from the start.

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Postby Bycrest » Sun May 07, 2017 11:41 pm

Britanania wrote:
Bycrest wrote:But wouldn't they be better of?. All of those years tormented by Aku could be avoid if Jack goes back to kill him.

It is better to exist than to not exist, though.

Still, I don't seem him returning. That means he has to fight Aku twice, which I find unlikely from a narrative perspective.

You wouldn't know the difference if you never existed in the first place.

And maybe Jack doesn't even fight Aku in the future. If the episode with the Guardian was any indication, Jack is eventually supposed to go back to the past, which might happen in the next episode if the promo is anything to go off of. That way, he only fights Aku once and it's the one that has the most impact.
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:42 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:You know this bothered me since that one scientists episode in season 1
He's in a position where he *could* go to the past, but doing so would sacrifice the scientists to like some Aku bots.

But surely, it doesn't matter? I mean, he would go back, defeat Aku, and all those bots and also probably the scientists would never exist so it wouldn't matter that they had to sacrifice themselves

But also it would be a damn shame if they one thing, the ooooone thing Jack has been trying to do since Episode 2 of the series, doesn't get done by the end of the last season and the whole thing is just like oh well.

Yet isn't that development? Jack realizing what he wanted and what he needed were two different things?

It honestly just feels like Jack not realizing the implications of backwards time travel and letting his sense of moral nobility prevent him from saving the entiiiire planet from Aku.

Think about it. If he goes back, all the horrible things Aku does are undone, and he doesn't even sacrifice anyone do to it because those people never actually die since he changed the past. Its just winning. So much winning. If he just went through that portal in season one, he'd be tired of winning by now.

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Postby Britanania » Sun May 07, 2017 11:43 pm

Sinovet wrote:Story wise, the show is kind of in a position where no matter how it ends, it was all somewhat for nothing. If he stays, he has failed his whole 5 season objective that kept him going he whole time. If he goes back, everything that happened in the show deletes and its like it never happened in the first place. Even if they kill him, that just makes it all pointless too because we've follows this guy's story for 5 seasons and watched every fight and he just fuckin dies at the end.

To be honest, as much as I dread to see this reboot end, I am kind of excited to see how they're going to end this long ass saga. Not often a show gets an ending, especially one like this, that didn't have an ending planned from the start.

I dunno, I suspect Genndy had a hypothetical ending planned, like how Oda has the ending to One Piece planned
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Postby Sinovet » Sun May 07, 2017 11:44 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:Story wise, the show is kind of in a position where no matter how it ends, it was all somewhat for nothing. If he stays, he has failed his whole 5 season objective that kept him going he whole time. If he goes back, everything that happened in the show deletes and its like it never happened in the first place. Even if they kill him, that just makes it all pointless too because we've follows this guy's story for 5 seasons and watched every fight and he just fuckin dies at the end.

To be honest, as much as I dread to see this reboot end, I am kind of excited to see how they're going to end this long ass saga. Not often a show gets an ending, especially one like this, that didn't have an ending planned from the start.

I dunno, I suspect Genndy had a hypothetical ending planned, like how Oda has the ending to One Piece planned

Possible, but still. The show got died and picked up again way later just to give it an ending. Its cool.

Here's hoping its not another weirdmaggedon overhype situation.

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Postby New haven america » Sun May 07, 2017 11:47 pm

Britanania wrote:
Sinovet wrote:It'd be funny if he brought her back to the past and introduced her to his parents and she's like "Hi I was raised from childhood to kill your son"

I think he's going to stay in the Future. If he returns to the past, all those people whose lives he affected? They'll never exist.

But then the entire story will have been pointless...
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