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Are Juggalos a gang?

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Postby Juggalo Carnival » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:29 pm

The FBI say rhat Juggalos, fans of the horrorcore rap band Insane Clown Posse, are a hybrid gang. ICP is suing them, and after a court threw out the lawsuit, recently they won an appeal which will force the lower courts to look at the case again.

Do you think that the government should be able to say you are a criminal due to music you listen to? Immagine if this happened to a black artist with a primarily black fanbase, maybe one of the several artists who actually raps about being in a gang and doing illegal activities.

I think that the government has no moral standing to condemn Juggalos as gangsters. Remember when Juggalos propped up brutal corrupt dictators in the third world? Or what about the time when they invaded Iraq (who they used to sell chemical weapons to) for made up reasons and lied about it? Or when Juggalos created a system of mass incarceration based on denying adults the right to put only certain drugs in their bodies while keeping the more harmful drug of alcohol legal? Funny I only remember the diseased US federal government doing that.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:57 pm

I see no sense in calling them a gang when the government hasn't classified real gangs as such. Like the Mystery Gang.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:30 pm

Juggalos are dangerous psychopathic axe wielding nuts with dreads. Well, that's at least what I can tell from your avatar.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:34 pm

Not all of the fan base that call themselves "Juggalos" are criminals, in fact the majorty are not. Some however, are, and adopt the subculture as an identity.
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Postby Juggalo Carnival » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:41 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Juggalos are dangerous psychopathic axe wielding nuts with dreads. Well, that's at least what I can tell from your avatar.

Yeah basically :p With clown face paint.

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Postby Kraylandia » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:45 am

I believe some of them may engage in criminal activities, but that doesn't make the Juggalos a gang as such. So no, they're not and the FBI is fucking retarded for classing them as that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:48 am

Depends on the group, I knew more than a few Juggalos who were loosely organized and involved in some low level street stuff.
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Postby Kraylandia » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Depends on the group, I knew more than a few Juggalos who were loosely organized and involved in some low level street stuff.


Yea, but that doesn't make the whole subculture criminals though. The groups you mentioned that are involved in low-level street stuff just took the whole Juggalo thing on as an identity.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:56 am

Kraylandia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Depends on the group, I knew more than a few Juggalos who were loosely organized and involved in some low level street stuff.


Yea, but that doesn't make the whole subculture criminals though. The groups you mentioned that are involved in low-level street stuff just took the whole Juggalo thing on as an identity.


Hence why I said it depends on the group, there certainly are plenty of Juggalos who do look at it like a gang and treat it as such. Likewise there are plenty who don't, it all depends on the person really.

Trying to paint something as broad as "Juggalos" with a single label just doesn't work.
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Postby Kraylandia » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:59 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Yea, but that doesn't make the whole subculture criminals though. The groups you mentioned that are involved in low-level street stuff just took the whole Juggalo thing on as an identity.


Hence why I said it depends on the group, there certainly are plenty of Juggalos who do look at it like a gang and treat it as such. Likewise there are plenty who don't, it all depends on the person really.

Trying to paint something as broad as "Juggalos" with a single label just doesn't work.


Silly me, it's getting pretty early and I just pulled an all-nighter to get my sleep pattern back to normal. My apologies, but yes you're right.
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Postby Jochistan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:01 am

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Postby Jochistan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:01 am

But yeah. They kind of are.
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Postby Kraylandia » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:10 pm

Jochistan wrote:But yeah. They kind of are.


No, they're not.
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:00 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Jochistan wrote:But yeah. They kind of are.


No, they're not.

Alright, not on a whole I guess. But theres sort of a big gang subculture in it that has a lot of influence.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:54 pm

Just a silly subculture in my truthful opinion. Few engage in violent activity.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:55 pm

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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:57 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Just a silly subculture in my truthful opinion. Few engage in violent activity.


Is there any subcultures you actually like?
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:00 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Just a silly subculture in my truthful opinion. Few engage in violent activity.


Is there any subcultures you actually like?


I'm not sure, actually. I'd have to think about it, seeing as I don't really associate with any subcultures.

I don't harbor anything against juggalos as a whole, I must say that, it's just not for me. Plus, I don't condone the crazier ones who spray paint cars and cause societal harm in the name of the insane clown posse.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:08 pm

I don't exactly fit the description of a Juggalette and wouldn't class myself as one, however some people might class me as one - it's up to them. For example I don't wear the facepaint and wield hatchets while shouting "whoop whoop" every two seconds. I do however enjoy the music very much.

Anyway, I don't condone the wankers who damage property, harm people and deal drugs in the name of the Insane Clown Posse either. Nor does most of the community.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:18 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
I'm not sure, actually. I'd have to think about it, seeing as I don't really associate with any subcultures.

I don't harbor anything against juggalos as a whole, I must say that, it's just not for me. Plus, I don't condone the crazier ones who spray paint cars and cause societal harm in the name of the insane clown posse.


I don't necessarily class myself as a Juggalette, although I am a pretty big fan of the music, so some might class me as one. I don't spraypaint cars or harm people. I don't condone those wankers either.

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Postby Adab » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:44 pm

To be honest, they don't look like a gang to me.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:46 pm

Adab wrote:To be honest, they don't look like a gang to me.


Because they aren't, like in any other subculture or community there is a few trouble makers here and there but they don't represent the Juggalo and Juggalette family.
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Postby Adab » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:49 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Adab wrote:To be honest, they don't look like a gang to me.


Because they aren't, like in any other subculture or community there is a few trouble makers here and there but they don't represent the Juggalo and Juggalette family.


You know you aren't a gang when Charlie Sheen identifies as a member. :lol:
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:52 pm

Adab wrote:You know you aren't a gang when Charlie Sheen identifies as a member. :lol:


Badass. :lol:
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