The Fallout Thread

[Marcurix]

So how good is FO4? Also, I heard that Power Armour seems to be too common and easily acquired compared to previous games. Though to be honest, I found power armour rather easy to get in FO3.

They changed up the power armour dynamic in a way i'm not opposed to. In fallout 3 it just became another bit of armour once you get so far in the game. Now when i pull it off the station, Ok when I pull one of them off the station, it's because i'm in for a heavy haul mission. It means something for me to resort to the power armour.

Usually a deathclaw.

Still, I spent three hours at level two building my small steel hut just opposite my own home. A quaint little place with all the homely necessities of food, warmth and machine guns to call my own.

Now if everyone in town could kindly stay out of it, we'd be grand.

[New Frenco Empire]

So how good is FO4? Also, I heard that Power Armour seems to be too common and easily acquired compared to previous games. Though to be honest, I found power armour rather easy to get in FO3.

They changed up the power armour dynamic in a way i'm not opposed to. In fallout 3 it just became another bit of armour once you get so far in the game. Now when i pull it off the station, Ok when I pull one of them off the station, it's because i'm in for a heavy haul mission. It means something for me to resort to the power armour.

Usually a deathclaw.

Still, I spent three hours at level two building my small steel hut just opposite my own home. A quaint little place with all the homely necessities of food, warmth and machine guns to call my own.

Now if everyone in town could kindly stay out of it, we'd be grand.

Assign everyone their own bed. I had that problem when I built my hospital and wanted the townsfolk to stay away from all the medical beds I put in there for flavor.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to think playing as the female character plays out sorta like Far Cry 3. Your close relative with military training (you know, the one actually capable of doing well in the situation presented to them) dies early on, leaving you alone and afraid. Of course, with a bit of practice and help from friends, you slowly evolve (or devolve) into a socipathic killing machine.

...or the law school the female PC attended was actually a cover for a secret Army Intelligence facility where the United States trained it's best operatives. That works too.

[The Conez Imperium]

What's up with the dialogue changes? Sounds stupid only having 4 options...

[Meryuma]

Been having a blast in Fallout 4. I was confused about some of the crafting mechanics for a while but I think I've got everything together now. Got a swagged out pipe revolver that does 48 damage at (iirc) 204 range and just bought a serrated Chinese officer sword, time to fuckin rumble.

Do you need to have someone as a companion to romance them? Cos I want Piper to be in lesbians with me but there's no way I'm leaving Dogmeat behind. I got the Attack Dog perk and everything.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to think playing as the female character plays out sorta like Far Cry 3. Your close relative with military training (you know, the one actually capable of doing well in the situation presented to them) dies early on, leaving you alone and afraid. Of course, with a bit of practice and help from friends, you slowly evolve (or devolve) into a socipathic killing machine.

...or the law school the female PC attended was actually a cover for a secret Army Intelligence facility where the United States trained it's best operatives. That works too.

I usually play males but the female PC is just soo much more interesting. More diverse appearance options, cooler voice, more distinctive backstory.

[Katyuscha]

So I'm experiencing a bug where, during the scene where that dude in diamond city almost kills his brother and gets killed by the security guards, everyone in the city is stuck in the scene and the guard just keeps shooting 5he dead body. I can't interact with anyone because they're stuck in their script so I can't purchase anything or further any quests in diamond d city

Any ideas

[Benomia 3]

Doing it sort of right Bethesda style.

In this case at least they gave multiple factions, but they made it way too gray. In Fallout New Vegas all factions (yes including the Legion) had both good, and bad sides, and that made them enjoyable. So far the Institute is the only one actually taking into account the forseeable consequences of their actions. Compared to the hoarders in power armor flying in the air like assholes killing people simply because they aren't flesh, and blood.

I'm not sure it's fair to compare FO4's factions to FNV's. In FO4 they're there because they're plot relevant. In FNV every faction was written for a specific purpose. They were more conceptual than human. Every faction, even the minors, were designed expressly to make some point about human nature, and then to almost immediately try to prove that point wrong (for example, the NCR is representative of freedom and democracy...but what if that democracy is extremely corrupt?).

I see FO4's factional system as more reactionary towards FO3's. The BOS, for example, is obviously written in a way to make up for how "goody good guys who do nothing wrong" they were in FO3.

Not to mention.

The power armor seemed a little too easy to get, and normally you need to be trained to use it. In Fallout New Vegas with both the Brotherhood of the Mojave, and the Enclave Remnants you just can't slap on a pair of power armor without getting trained by them.

I don't see how this is a negative thing. It always seemed silly to me that the power armor looked exactly like normal armor and I'd spend long parts of my life watching other people wear it, but I had to get one SPECIFIC GUY to teach me how to use it "correctly".

[Benomia 3]

What's up with the dialogue changes? Sounds stupid only having 4 options...

It's kinda stupid until you realize that they just replaced "gigantic list of dialog options you have to scroll through for hours" with "tree-based nested list of dialog options you have to click through for hours".

And it's still done WAY better than ME.

So I'm experiencing a bug where, during the scene where that dude in diamond city almost kills his brother and gets killed by the security guards, everyone in the city is stuck in the scene and the guard just keeps shooting 5he dead body. I can't interact with anyone because they're stuck in their script so I can't purchase anything or further any quests in diamond d city

Any ideas

Slaughter them all. Make the Institute proud.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

Do you need to have someone as a companion to romance them? Cos I want Piper to be in lesbians with me but there's no way I'm leaving Dogmeat behind. I got the Attack Dog perk and everything.

Yes, you have to have someone as a companion to romance them.

Also, Piper a shit. Cait is best girl.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

What's up with the dialogue changes? Sounds stupid only having 4 options...

It's kinda stupid until you realize that they just replaced "gigantic list of dialog options you have to scroll through for hours" with "tree-based nested list of dialog options you have to click through for hours".

And it's still done WAY better than ME.

Disagree there, there aren't really any nested options you pretty much get the same response in FO4 no matter what, at least what you said in ME had consequences.

The dialogue in FO4 is idiotic, and it makes your character sound idiotic.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

HATE NEWSPAPERS

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

[The Unhallowed City]

It's also excellent for wearing whenever you gun down Brotherhood thugs. Show them the real Enclave.

Best time I've had so far is wading in with a laser gatling and x-01 power armour, Synths at my side, chucking plasma grenades and hosing down every Brotherhood bastard in my way, then seeing Paladin Dance Dance Revolution come out and proceeding to engage him in GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT, then hacking Liberty Prime and obliterating the treacherous tech hoarders.

[Alvecia]

I'm curious, has anyone tested if you have the companion perk that stops you taking damage from them will prevent death-by-companion-fatman?

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

I'm curious, has anyone tested if you have the companion perk that stops you taking damage from them will prevent death-by-companion-fatman?

Why would you give a companion a Fatman?

What did you expect?

[Transoxthraxia]

I'm curious, has anyone tested if you have the companion perk that stops you taking damage from them will prevent death-by-companion-fatman?

Why would you give a companion a Fatman?

What did you expect?

They sometimes pick up weapons off the ground, though.

[Husseinarti]

Doing it sort of right Bethesda style.

In this case at least they gave multiple factions, but they made it way too gray. In Fallout New Vegas all factions (yes including the Legion) had both good, and bad sides, and that made them enjoyable. So far the Institute is the only one actually taking into account the forseeable consequences of their actions. Compared to the hoarders in power armor flying in the air like assholes killing people simply because they aren't flesh, and blood.

Not to mention.

The power armor seemed a little too easy to get, and normally you need to be trained to use it. In Fallout New Vegas with both the Brotherhood of the Mojave, and the Enclave Remnants you just can't slap on a pair of power armor without getting trained by them.

Your character is from the 2nd Btn, 108th Infantry Regiment of the New York National Guard who was deployed in the Sino-American War, more than likely to the Alaskan front and took part in the Canadian occupation as well.

Somewhere down the line he probably got a rudimentary course in power armor usage on a T-45 chassis. Seeing that the US had outfitted a bunch of it's Mechanized Cav Regiments and even an entire Mechanized Division with T-51 and T-45, then I'm more than certain that power armor (Which you find at Nat Guard bases), would have been given and more people trained on it.

But yes, continue the "six-year old super modded Fallout:New Vegas vs not even a year old Fallout 4" retarded debate.

Because honestly, FO4 stands up better than /vanilla/ FO:NV, but when you add 100000000000 mods, 4 DLC, and mother fucking Project Nevada? Of course they'll be things that it'll do.

Jesus if you're so fucking petty and find that ABXY dialog gives you a fucking headache and can't be assed to get the mod that already fixes it, then you should just fucking uninstall the game.

[Alvecia]

I'm curious, has anyone tested if you have the companion perk that stops you taking damage from them will prevent death-by-companion-fatman?

Why would you give a companion a Fatman?

What did you expect?

I haven't had them blow me up yet, but I've seen others that have.
I've had them use weapons I gave them to hold but didn't tell them to equip. Seems reasonable to assume they might accidentally use the fatman I gave them. Will have to do some testing with that no companion damage perk though. The implications are interesting.

[New Frenco Empire]

Do you need to have someone as a companion to romance them? Cos I want Piper to be in lesbians with me but there's no way I'm leaving Dogmeat behind. I got the Attack Dog perk and everything.

Piper is best lesbian.

But yeah. Charming her pants off isn't that hard, though, considering you can quickly get your relationship up by lockpicking and picking a few select "sarcastic" options. I managed to pick her up and romance her in like a day.

I usually play males but the female PC is just soo much more interesting. More diverse appearance options, cooler voice, more distinctive backstory.

I usually play females, so it would be no surprise that I kept tradition going here, but honestly, I think FO4's just works better with a female PC.

Doing it sort of right Bethesda style.

In this case at least they gave multiple factions, but they made it way too gray. In Fallout New Vegas all factions (yes including the Legion) had both good, and bad sides, and that made them enjoyable. So far the Institute is the only one actually taking into account the forseeable consequences of their actions. Compared to the hoarders in power armor flying in the air like assholes killing people simply because they aren't flesh, and blood.

Not to mention.

The power armor seemed a little too easy to get, and normally you need to be trained to use it. In Fallout New Vegas with both the Brotherhood of the Mojave, and the Enclave Remnants you just can't slap on a pair of power armor without getting trained by them.

Your character is from the 2nd Btn, 108th Infantry Regiment of the New York National Guard who was deployed in the Sino-American War, more than likely to the Alaskan front and took part in the Canadian occupation as well.

Somewhere down the line he probably got a rudimentary course in power armor usage on a T-45 chassis. Seeing that the US had outfitted a bunch of it's Mechanized Cav Regiments and even an entire Mechanized Division with T-51 and T-45, then I'm more than certain that power armor (Which you find at Nat Guard bases), would have been given and more people trained on it.

But yes, continue the "six-year old super modded Fallout:New Vegas vs not even a year old Fallout 4" retarded debate.

Because honestly, FO4 stands up better than /vanilla/ FO:NV, but when you add 100000000000 mods, 4 DLC, and mother fucking Project Nevada? Of course they'll be things that it'll do.

Jesus if you're so fucking petty and find that ABXY dialog gives you a fucking headache and can't be assed to get the mod that already fixes it, then you should just fucking uninstall the game.

Tbf, I guess the female PC went to one badass law school to know how to operate power armor.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Tbf, I guess the female PC went to one badass law school to know how to operate power armor.

Attorney: "Objection, your honor, the prosecution is hounding the witness!"
Judge: "Prosecutor?"
PC (through helmet speakers): "I have a fuck-mothering suit of power-armor on, bitch."
Judge: "...I'll allow it. Again. But you are walking a thin line here, prosecutor."

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Do you need to have someone as a companion to romance them? Cos I want Piper to be in lesbians with me but there's no way I'm leaving Dogmeat behind. I got the Attack Dog perk and everything.

Piper is best lesbian.

But yeah. Charming her pants off isn't that hard, though, considering you can quickly get your relationship up by lockpicking and picking a few select "sarcastic" options. I managed to pick her up and romance her in like a day.

I usually play males but the female PC is just soo much more interesting. More diverse appearance options, cooler voice, more distinctive backstory.

I usually play females, so it would be no surprise that I kept tradition going here, but honestly, I think FO4's just works better with a female PC.

Your character is from the 2nd Btn, 108th Infantry Regiment of the New York National Guard who was deployed in the Sino-American War, more than likely to the Alaskan front and took part in the Canadian occupation as well.

Somewhere down the line he probably got a rudimentary course in power armor usage on a T-45 chassis. Seeing that the US had outfitted a bunch of it's Mechanized Cav Regiments and even an entire Mechanized Division with T-51 and T-45, then I'm more than certain that power armor (Which you find at Nat Guard bases), would have been given and more people trained on it.

But yes, continue the "six-year old super modded Fallout:New Vegas vs not even a year old Fallout 4" retarded debate.

Because honestly, FO4 stands up better than /vanilla/ FO:NV, but when you add 100000000000 mods, 4 DLC, and mother fucking Project Nevada? Of course they'll be things that it'll do.

Jesus if you're so fucking petty and find that ABXY dialog gives you a fucking headache and can't be assed to get the mod that already fixes it, then you should just fucking uninstall the game.

Tbf, I guess the female PC went to one badass law school to know how to operate power armor.

Quite.

Which is why I am wondering who the hell had the money to buy one from the military. I've played most of the Fallouts (not that godawful Brotherhood of Steel though) as female just because its intentionally makes my experience harder. That dumb bastard Caesar had the audacity to invite me to their camp after I slaughtered all officers of their Mojave expedition. Nearly had my companions die several times. ED-E unfortunately exploded, and because I forgot to save I didn't want to replay that entire camp slaughter again.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

On a note are there any mods that bring out a hardcore mode yet?

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

So apparently I found the results of a mass suicide following the Great War.

Now I feel bad for desecrating their gravesite.

[Imperial isa]

Assign everyone their own bed. I had that problem when I built my hospital and wanted the townsfolk to stay away from all the medical beds I put in there for flavor.

Unless it's Mama i can't give her orders.

[Licana]

Assign everyone their own bed. I had that problem when I built my hospital and wanted the townsfolk to stay away from all the medical beds I put in there for flavor.

Unless it's Mama i can't give her orders.

Put stairs up to roof
Put her chair on the roof
Put a bed on the roof
Mama goes to sit on her chair
Remove stairs

boom, Mama no longer a problem.

[Imperial isa]

On a note are there any mods that bring out a hardcore mode yet?

Not that i know of but you have to wait till the tools came out next year to really see what can be made.

[TotallyNotEvilLand]

What's up with the dialogue changes? Sounds stupid only having 4 options...

It basically just condenses all the kind of options you had in 3. Basically a few million ways to say the same damn thing versus four ways to say things. Admittedly the vague subtitles are bad, but there's already a mod that allows you to see exactly what you're going to say, so that was fixed astoundingly quickly.

I don't even have a problem with the dialogue, really. For the most part it isn't that bad unless you're the type who wants to play a drooling imbecile or a wasteland Nazi, which I don't play either.