The Fallout Thread

[Gloriana Americana]

He looks nothing like him.

Well, yeah. Vault Boy is a 2D cartoon character, not a 3D CGI character and the engine's limitations don't allow for an accurate recreation of him.

Not talking about the HUD, I'm talking about the color pallet. Lots of yellow.

Same could be said for Fallout 3, lots of green.

Honestly, I find the yellow more pleasing to the eye than the green. At least it makes sense, NV is in the desert.

Yes, the first person view looks, zoomed in and something just makes me feel nauseous looking at it.

I really don't know what you mean by that, but alright. You could always play in third-person.

Back in the Saddle and By a Campfire on the Trail by comparison don't take you to many places, and it all felt off.

How did it feel off? It felt more realistic to me, IMO. The point of a tutorial isn't to take you places, either.

And you don't even have to do either of those quests, they're completely optional. You can skip them or fail them without repercussions. They're really only there for new players, otherwise they're not worth anything but some XP and a few minor, low-level rewards not worth mentioning.

Saw the control for it, yet it doesn't exist.

I don't know what to tell you. You can walk or you can run, but you can't sprint.

Ok. But compared to how adorkable Travis is or how energetic Three Dog is, Mr. New Vegas just doesn't come across as interesting as the other two.

Well Mr. New Vegas is meant to sound like a more professional radio host, he comes across as suave and charming to me but that's just me. A "gentleman", like Trudy says.

He's also an A.I., so it's how he's programmed.

I see how it fits, and it does fit, just that my dislike of the genre may get in the way.

I'll try more with the radio later.

I understand. I hate Country music myself, but as far as Country goes New Vegas has some of the better side of Country music.

Still, I hardly listen to the radio anyway. There are mods that add on to the radio if you're interested in them, there are even a few for a custom radio station with your own music to listen to.

[Imperial isa]

So is it me but dose book of eli movie copy fallout 3 colour schemes ?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

He looks nothing like him.

Well, yeah. Vault Boy is a 2D cartoon character, not a 3D CGI character and the engine's limitations don't allow for an accurate recreation of him.

Not talking about the HUD, I'm talking about the color pallet. Lots of yellow.

Same could be said for Fallout 3, lots of green.

Honestly, I find the yellow more pleasing to the eye than the green. At least it makes sense, NV is in the desert.

Yes, the first person view looks, zoomed in and something just makes me feel nauseous looking at it.

I really don't know what you mean by that, but alright. You could always play in third-person.

Back in the Saddle and By a Campfire on the Trail by comparison don't take you to many places, and it all felt off.

How did it feel off? It felt more realistic to me, IMO. The point of a tutorial isn't to take you places, either.

And you don't even have to do either of those quests, they're completely optional. You can skip them or fail them without repercussions. They're really only there for new players, otherwise they're not worth anything but some XP and a few minor, low-level rewards not worth mentioning.

Saw the control for it, yet it doesn't exist.

I don't know what to tell you. You can walk or you can run, but you can't sprint.

Ok. But compared to how adorkable Travis is or how energetic Three Dog is, Mr. New Vegas just doesn't come across as interesting as the other two.

Well Mr. New Vegas is meant to sound like a more professional radio host, he comes across as suave and charming to me but that's just me. A "gentleman", like Trudy says.

He's also an A.I., so it's how he's programmed.

I see how it fits, and it does fit, just that my dislike of the genre may get in the way.

I'll try more with the radio later.

I understand. I hate Country music myself, but as far as Country goes New Vegas has some of the better side of Country music.

Still, I hardly listen to the radio anyway. There are mods that add on to the radio if you're interested in them, there are even a few for a custom radio station with your own music to listen to.

I mean the bobble heads look like him.

I'll give it that, it looks better the Fo3's Green and gray everywhere. But still, I like when Deus Ex HR gave everything a yellow tinge, but this kinda makes everything look similar and makes everything look less interesting to look at.

FO4's colors made everything way more interesting to look at. NV has less of this problem then Fo3 did but still.

I mean, it would help, except for shooting stuff, then it would be awkward.

Ok, but it kinda pisses me off that the game lied to me by the existence of the listing of it in the controls.

It felt off by being rather uninteresting to look at. Vault 111, Sanctuary, Red Rocket Truck Stop, Concord and, Museum of Freedom all looked and felt interesting to explore.

Where do you go in Back in the Saddle and By a Campfire on the Trail? By a few rocks, a fence area, a grave yard.

I know the point of a tutorial isn't to take you places, but it would help these two quests gave you something interesting to look at other then yellow rocks.

And yes I know that these quests are optional, but I haven't played Fallout 3 in years, I needed the refresher course.

That and the caps, guns, and other stuff you get from these quests.

Gentleman, yes. But kind of boring, also yes.

I see.

Well, maybe he will grow on me. Maybe he won't.

[Harbertia]

I speculate that the only reason Bethesda didn't include a Commonwealth faction is because such would make FO4 the first game to take place in a setting with institutionalized law. Sure they mentioned the Commonwealth Police in Fallout 4- but you never see them, and it's like the Commonwealth faction doesn't exist anymore- it's been naught but 10 years!

10 years since Fallout 3, so apparently in those ten the Commonwealth has retreated northward further into New England- it is the remnants of the New England Commonwealth. Well, such is my speculation.

It's the same reason no game has taken place in the NCR- just the frontier. Fallout games just don't like institutionalized legal systems.

That being said, we know it still exist based on institute dialogue- whatever became of it or where ever it has gone the Commonwealth Provisional Government seems to still have some contact with the Institute.

The Commonwealth Minutemen under Preston (er- somewhat- I mean- yeah we all know he's calling the shots) have become apolitical, and I suppose have cut ties.

The Provisional government seems to have collapsed sometime recently- so it's strange that we don't see more remnants of it- just the Institute and the Minutemen seem to remain of the old Commonwealth state.

[Imperializt Russia]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

[Harbertia]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

I don't know for certain, but I hear - again 'hear' so it's just a rumor (as far as I know) that Bethesda's still- concerned that NV sold better then Fallout 3 and don't want to loose the franchise to Obsidian by allowing it to make more Fallout games of such quality (thus making it more recognized then Bethesda for such projects).

[Gloriana Americana]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

I don't know for certain, but I hear - again 'hear' so it's just a rumor (as far as I know) that Bethesda's still- concerned that NV sold better then Fallout 3 and don't want to loose the franchise to Obsidian by allowing it to make more Fallout games of such quality (thus making it more recognized then Bethesda for such projects).

Gee, I wonder why Bethe$da would be afraid of that?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

I thought it was kinda heavy on the exposition TBH.

They just lay it all on you.

[Imperializt Russia]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

I thought it was kinda heavy on the exposition TBH.

They just lay it all on you.

It's the starting area and they give you a generic overview of the conflict and the factions and what people think of them. It's certainly suitable for an RPG, far better than FO3 going "and now, X have arrived".

Like an eight year old telling you the story he wrote "and then and then and then!!"

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I think I know why I feel motion sick when playing NV.

Everyone moves choppy.

NPCs and you. It is like playing with high ping. Except that there is no ping, just choppy movements.

I thought it was kinda heavy on the exposition TBH.

They just lay it all on you.

It's the starting area and they give you a generic overview of the conflict and the factions and what people think of them. It's certainly suitable for an RPG, far better than FO3 going "and now, X have arrived".

Like an eight year old telling you the story he wrote "and then and then and then!!"

Yeah, but they kinda lay it on you thick.

Like "here is this new robot, would you like to know EVERYTHING about this new type of robot?"

[Alekseandrea]

I think I know why I feel motion sick when playing NV.

Everyone moves choppy.

NPCs and you. It is like playing with high ping. Except that there is no ping, just choppy movements.

Really? I never noticed.

Yeah, but they kinda lay it on you thick.

Like "here is this new robot, would you like to know EVERYTHING about this new type of robot?"

You don't have to click on every dialogue option, you know.
You can just ignore them.

It could be worse, you know. They've could have chosen to give you only 4 options all described by a single word.

[Gloriana Americana]

Spend five minutes outside of the Doctor's Office in NV and already encountered more writing quality and game design than was in the entirety of Fallout 3.

Like...

Why the fuck did Bethesda not enlist the Obsidian team for support in writing for Fallout 4? They enlisted the id guys for designing the whole fucking combat engine.

I thought it was kinda heavy on the exposition TBH.

They just lay it all on you.

"So there's these guys across the river that speak Latin and enslave people and they're fighting against some republicans from California over a big dam."

Yes, I agree, this is clearly heavy exposition. /s

Yeah, but they kinda lay it on you thick.

Like "here is this new robot, would you like to know EVERYTHING about this new type of robot?"

They don't even tell you everything, they tell you general knowledge. Basic shit. Where are you getting this idea that they shove info in your face?

Victor doesn't even tell you anything about him other than his make and model.

I think I know why I feel motion sick when playing NV.

Everyone moves choppy.

NPCs and you. It is like playing with high ping. Except that there is no ping, just choppy movements.

It bothers you that much? Really? I barely notice it at all.

You don't have to click on every dialogue option, you know.
You can just ignore them.

It could be worse, you know. They've could have chosen to give you only 4 options all described by a single word.

Ouch, that's a third degree burn right there.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I think I know why I feel motion sick when playing NV.

Everyone moves choppy.

NPCs and you. It is like playing with high ping. Except that there is no ping, just choppy movements.

Really? I never noticed.

Yeah, but they kinda lay it on you thick.

Like "here is this new robot, would you like to know EVERYTHING about this new type of robot?"

You don't have to click on every dialogue option, you know.
You can just ignore them.

It could be worse, you know. They've could have chosen to give you only 4 options all described by a single word.

I know it's optional, but just having all that exposition there right at the first town kinda slows you down.

Actually, that sounds better then two options that do the same thing in Ghost Town Gunfight.

Yes (help him)

Yes for caps (help him)

or No (maybe help him later)

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I thought it was kinda heavy on the exposition TBH.

They just lay it all on you.

"So there's these guys across the river that speak Latin and enslave people and they're fighting against some republicans from California over a big dam."

Yes, I agree, this is clearly heavy exposition. /s

Yeah, but they kinda lay it on you thick.

Like "here is this new robot, would you like to know EVERYTHING about this new type of robot?"

They don't even tell you everything, they tell you general knowledge. Basic shit. Where are you getting this idea that they shove info in your face?

Victor doesn't even tell you anything about him other than his make and model.

I think I know why I feel motion sick when playing NV.

Everyone moves choppy.

NPCs and you. It is like playing with high ping. Except that there is no ping, just choppy movements.

It bothers you that much? Really? I barely notice it at all.

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."


Yes it does bother me that much.

I'm looking at the road ahead, yet my peripheral vision keeps shaking as objects stutter when they go beyond my POV.

And when looking at NPC's, there stuttering animation when walking makes me even more sick.

[CITY18]

"So there's these guys across the river that speak Latin and enslave people and they're fighting against some republicans from California over a big dam."

Yes, I agree, this is clearly heavy exposition. /s



They don't even tell you everything, they tell you general knowledge. Basic shit. Where are you getting this idea that they shove info in your face?

Victor doesn't even tell you anything about him other than his make and model.



It bothers you that much? Really? I barely notice it at all.

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."


Yes it does bother me that much.

I'm looking at the road ahead, yet my peripheral vision keeps shaking as objects stutter when they go beyond my POV.

And when looking at NPC's, there stuttering animation when walking makes me even more sick.

Do you have vsync on?

I had that exact issue with choopy animations with vsync.

[Alekseandrea]

I know it's optional, but just having all that exposition there right at the first town kinda slows you down.

Actually, that sounds better then two options that do the same thing in Ghost Town Gunfight.

Yes (help him)

Yes for caps (help him)

or No (maybe help him later)

Meh. A bit too bare bones for me.
I want to escape into an imaginary world where I can be whoever I want.

How can I do that if I can't get the amount of sarcasm just right?
Some more options would even be more fun, perhaps with added required special skills.

[Speech 100] Those power gangers are just misunderstood. Honest. You should try to talk to them.

[Intelligence 8] Nil Mortifi Sine Lucre.

[Intelligence 6] Well, if you stay here Cobb's going to slaughter the town anyway, it's just a matter of time.

Drop your weapon. You're my prisoner now.

[Shadowwell]

Really? I never noticed.



You don't have to click on every dialogue option, you know.
You can just ignore them.

It could be worse, you know. They've could have chosen to give you only 4 options all described by a single word.

I know it's optional, but just having all that exposition there right at the first town kinda slows you down.

Actually, that sounds better then two options that do the same thing in Ghost Town Gunfight.

Yes (help him)

Yes for caps (help him)

or No (maybe help him later)

You can help the powder gangers.

[Licana]

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."

>ask robot what it is
>robot explains what it is
>this is a problem

You can help the powder gangers.

You can also just turn 360 degrees and walk straight out of town as soon as you leave the doc's house, never starting the quest in the first place.

[Versail]

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."

>ask robot what it is
>robot explains what it is
>this is a problem

Well it didn't give him 4 reply options that more or less say the same thing.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."


Yes it does bother me that much.

I'm looking at the road ahead, yet my peripheral vision keeps shaking as objects stutter when they go beyond my POV.

And when looking at NPC's, there stuttering animation when walking makes me even more sick.

Do you have vsync on?

I had that exact issue with choopy animations with vsync.

Just checked, yes I did have it on.

Just turned it off, hopefully it will make things better.

---

Just want to say, I am enjoying NV.

Just not as much as Fo4.

[Shadowwell]

Do you have vsync on?

I had that exact issue with choopy animations with vsync.

Just checked, yes I did have it on.

Just turned it off, hopefully it will make things better.

---

Just want to say, I am enjoying NV.

Just not as much as Fo4.

WEll of course, most of the good stuff that was made into the Base of Fallout 4, were originally mods and such for New Vegas, Real Time Settler, Weapon Mods Expanded, Autumn leaves (Kind of, anyways, Bethesda took the plot and concept of the mod, tossed it into Far Harbor and didn't credit the Mod creator, saying it was a coincidence that they were similar.), and others, so Fallout 4 will be superior in certain aspects.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"I'm this kind of robot, built by these people, I came from here 15 years ago, this is what I do here. ect..."

>ask robot what it is
>robot explains what it is
>this is a problem

You can help the powder gangers.

You can also just turn 360 degrees and walk straight out of town as soon as you leave the doc's house, never starting the quest in the first place.

I didn't know there would be that much of it there.

You can help them, but the game doesn't tell you where they are.

Yes I know you can look for them, but isn't that kind of inconsistent with the other objectives?

[Shadowwell]

>ask robot what it is
>robot explains what it is
>this is a problem



You can also just turn 360 degrees and walk straight out of town as soon as you leave the doc's house, never starting the quest in the first place.

I didn't know there would be that much of it there.

You can help them, but the game doesn't tell you where they are.

Yes I know you can look for them, but isn't that kind of inconsistent with the other objectives?

The guy is literally leaning against a building in town, so probably not that hard to find.

[Gloriana Americana]

Just want to say, I am enjoying NV.

Just not as much as Fo4.

Of course not, you haven't even left Goodsprings yet.

Just wait, the beginning is a little slow and rough but it picks up and gets much better as you go on and level up. Once you leave Nipton everything gets more interesting.

[Husseinarti]

wow this thread's current topic makes me want to pick up a noose and play it with my neck