The Fallout Thread

[The first Galactic Republic]

I like the Republic of Dave. Dave is a real success story.

[Gloriana Americana]

In which case you're still wrong and biased.

Just admit it, the NCR blows.

Factions that "blow" don't conquer entire former U.S. states and pose a considerable military threat to every faction in the Mojave.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Just admit it, the NCR blows.

Factions that "blow" don't conquer entire former U.S. states and pose a considerable military threat to every faction in the Mojave.

Glad to see you admit the Legion doesn't blow

[Sevvania]

Why are we still on the NCR vs Legion circlejerk

Have a sniper rifle.

Converted PTRS with 8x optical scope and electronic target tracking. Fires 14.5mm armor-piercing incendiary rounds from detachable 5-round box magazines and sports an oversized suppressor predominantly for recoil reduction purposes. Removes mutants.

[Salus Maior]

Why are we still on the NCR vs Legion circlejerk

Have a sniper rifle.

Converted PTRS with 8x optical scope and electronic target tracking. Fires 14.5mm armor-piercing incendiary rounds from detachable 5-round box magazines and sports an oversized suppressor predominantly for recoil reduction purposes. Removes mutants.

> Minutemen best faction.

But anyway, sick

[Gloriana Americana]

Factions that "blow" don't conquer entire former U.S. states and pose a considerable military threat to every faction in the Mojave.

Glad to see you admit the Legion doesn't blow

No, the Legion does blow. It's doomed to fail is why. Factions that don't blow can last beyond one dude's death.

[Ifreann]

Why are we still on the NCR vs Legion circlejerk

Have a sniper rifle.

Converted PTRS with 8x optical scope and electronic target tracking. Fires 14.5mm armor-piercing incendiary rounds from detachable 5-round box magazines and sports an oversized suppressor predominantly for recoil reduction purposes. Removes mutants.

But is it powered by a dog's brain?

[Gloriana Americana]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

[Salus Maior]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

The combat rifle and shotgun are definitely very boring looking guns in 4. I kinda like the Assault rifle design but it doesn't make sense for an assault rifle, a light MG maybe.

[Ifreann]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

Several of them are literal pieces of junk.

[Prusslandia]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

I hate how they redesigned most of the Pre-War weapons.

My Gauss Rifle looks so ugly in 4, as does my Powerfist and Supersledge.

[Sevvania]

But is it powered by a dog's brain?

We know that pre-war America pretty much had "brain-in-jar" technology figured out. There were the robobrains (which implanted a human intelligence into a mechanical body), and the K9000 (which integrated dog brains into rotary guns). And if these two things are possible, you get an interesting hypothetical: What if you Robobrain'd a K9000? That is to say, put a man into the gun? Couple this with some means of locomotion (possibly in the form of an early-gen Synth), and you get a Master Blaster-type character where the Master is the Blaster.

Unfortunately no one has made a K9000 for FO4, so a standard minigun serves as a temporary placeholder.

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

This is one of the unfortunate disparities between New Vegas and FO4: NV was pretty smart with most of their guns. Aside from the K9000 (which didn't really seem to have a way of conveying ammunition to the barrels), I can't really think of any gun that was "wrong". FO4 has some pretty good weapons, but there are also glaring flaws. Bayonets that dangle, antiquated-looking water-cooled machine guns inexplicably chambered for 5.56 (though markings on the suppressor indicate that, at some point in development, it was originally to be chambered for .50 caliber), bolt-action pipe rifles with multi-shot capacity despite lacking any form of magazine.

I like that handmade weapons are a thing, because it's the post-apocalypse and you'd expect to see things like that. I just wish that they'd added a bit more variety to the base models, instead of recycling assets for the semi-autos, the full-autos, and the bolt-actions.

The combat rifle and shotgun are definitely very boring looking guns in 4. I kinda like the Assault rifle design but it doesn't make sense for an assault rifle, a light MG maybe.

One thing I like about the combat shotgun is that they basically fixed the one from Fallout 3 (which had the drum mounted like a foot away from the ejection port). The combat rifle is neat because I can make it look like a pseudo BAR.

[Salus Maior]

The combat rifle and shotgun are definitely very boring looking guns in 4. I kinda like the Assault rifle design but it doesn't make sense for an assault rifle, a light MG maybe.

One thing I like about the combat shotgun is that they basically fixed the one from Fallout 3 (which had the drum mounted like a foot away from the ejection port). The combat rifle is neat because I can make it look like a pseudo BAR.

It'd be nicer just to have an actual BAR tbh.

Or more historical weapons.

[Prusslandia]

I will say I like the SM redesign in 4, looks less cheesy and more Uncanny Valley. The Deathclaws look better as well.

[Sevvania]

It'd be nicer just to have an actual BAR tbh.

Or more historical weapons.

I can agree with that, but I suppose that's the tradeoff: New Vegas had minimal customization, but compensated by having a larger number of unique weapons. FO4 allows for greater customization, but because of this, there are fewer unique weapons. The combat rifle seems to be the culmination of an attempt to roll both the Garand and the BAR into one modifiable weapon.

Fortunately mods can help expand that pool of base weapons, although it's a delicate balancing act.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trying to get to the Great Khan encampment is actually one of the worst parts of New Vegas >_>

[Licana]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

Several of them are literal pieces of junk.

garbage guns for a garbage game

[Ifreann]

It'd be nicer just to have an actual BAR tbh.

Or more historical weapons.

I can agree with that, but I suppose that's the tradeoff: New Vegas had minimal customization, but compensated by having a larger number of unique weapons. FO4 allows for greater customization, but because of this, there are fewer unique weapons. The combat rifle seems to be the culmination of an attempt to roll both the Garand and the BAR into one modifiable weapon.

Fortunately mods can help expand that pool of base weapons, although it's a delicate balancing act.

The legendary weapons and armour system is a bit stupid too. I got a legendary shishkebab that does cryo damage. A flaming sword than freezes. A sword of ice and fire.

[Pasong Tirad]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

A lot of the guns there are supposed to look like shit. It has been 200 years since the bombs fell, you know.

But I see what you mean. Since Fallout doesn't have a durability mechanic, it is illogical for many of the guns to keep working.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

A lot of the guns there are supposed to look like shit. It has been 200 years since the bombs fell, you know.

There are real life garage guns that look better.

[Ifreann]

Is it just more, or are the weapons in Fallout 4 ugly as fuck?

I've been going through the Wiki looking at them, and my God they are horrendously hideous looking abominations. Many of them don't even look like weapons, just piles of literal junk that would fall apart if you pulled the trigger. And somehow it seems mods make them look even worse.

Bethesda needs to learn what guns are, apparently, because a lot of these designs are downright illogical.

A lot of the guns there are supposed to look like shit. It has been 200 years since the bombs fell, you know.

But I see what you mean. Since Fallout doesn't have a durability mechanic, it is illogical for many of the guns to keep working.

It isn't that they look like they've been in use for 200 years. It's that they look like ass.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Sturges likes teddybears.

[Gloriana Americana]

Trying to get to the Great Khan encampment is actually one of the worst parts of New Vegas >_>

How?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Here is a gun I made

[Sevvania]

I can agree with that, but I suppose that's the tradeoff: New Vegas had minimal customization, but compensated by having a larger number of unique weapons. FO4 allows for greater customization, but because of this, there are fewer unique weapons. The combat rifle seems to be the culmination of an attempt to roll both the Garand and the BAR into one modifiable weapon.

Fortunately mods can help expand that pool of base weapons, although it's a delicate balancing act.

The legendary weapons and armour system is a bit stupid too. I got a legendary shishkebab that does cryo damage. A flaming sword than freezes. A sword of ice and fire.

I like to think of them similarly to alternate ammo in New Vegas. You've got "Violent" imitating +P ammunition, "Incendiary," "Explosive," "Two-Shot" i.e. duplex rounds. You do end up with weird ones, like bullets that freeze people, but those can always be sold off and/or scrapped.