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Do you have Fallout 4 yet?

yes, and its the best game i've ever played ever
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yes and i hate it. refund when?
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maybe idk
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no but im buying it by the end of the year
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12%
no and ill never play a fallout game in my entire life
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5%
this pull fucking sucks who let you be op
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Postby United Ameritania » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:22 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
United Ameritania wrote:
the NCR could achieve a pyrrhic victory, mainly given the sheer amount of legionaries swarming NCR positions.

though, couldn't say that House wouldn't swoop on in, and somewhat try to assist the NCR, or maybe just playing the two against eachother.


What would House use?

And besides, the Omertas causing chaos on the Strip would keep him busy.


Devoting some Securitrons, or maybe some auxillary robots he'd have hiding away?

Omertas are all fleshy, rapid 9mm bullets usually does the trick.

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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:25 pm

Prusslandia wrote:I think the Legion would have a phyrric victory personally, just barely taking the Dam. That's why taking slaves after is so important, they need to replenish their forces and prepare for the eventual NCR counterattack, unless they plan to take their time and march on the Core.


A Pyrrhic victory for the Legion would be even more disastrous for them than a Pyrrhic victory for the NCR would be for the NCR.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:26 pm

United Ameritania wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
What would House use?

And besides, the Omertas causing chaos on the Strip would keep him busy.


Devoting some Securitrons, or maybe some auxillary robots he'd have hiding away?

Omertas are all fleshy, rapid 9mm bullets usually does the trick.


The robots he has hiding away are under Fortification Hill. And without the courier (which is what we're talking about) they wouldn't be accessible.

And still, the chaos on the Strip would still delay any kind of action by House.
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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:27 pm

Can we all just accept this simple fact: Without the Courier, everybody sucks.
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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:29 pm

Gloriana Americana wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:I think the Legion would have a phyrric victory personally, just barely taking the Dam. That's why taking slaves after is so important, they need to replenish their forces and prepare for the eventual NCR counterattack, unless they plan to take their time and march on the Core.


A Pyrrhic victory for the Legion would be even more disastrous for them than a Pyrrhic victory for the NCR would be for the NCR.

Oh, it certainly would be.

I'm not saying the Legion is done for afterwards. They're likely fucked either way. I'm just talking about the severity, really.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:30 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
What would House use?

And besides, the Omertas causing chaos on the Strip would keep him busy.

Depends on if he's able to have the Chip activated. No Chip, he's stuck in Vegas trying to keep order.

With the Chip, he can clean out the Omertas with ease. and then use the Securitron army beneath the Fort to strongarm the NCR.


If the courier is dead, Benny gets it. And Benny gets captured by the Legion, and I suppose would be killed.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:31 pm

Gloriana Americana wrote:Can we all just accept this simple fact: Without the Courier, everybody sucks.


Pretty much this. The Legion might take the Dam, the NCR might be able to push back, House just straight up can't do anything.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:34 pm

Gloriana Americana wrote:Can we all just accept this simple fact: Without the Courier, everybody sucks.


So remember kids: before you try to conquer anything, make sure you have a protagonist with you.
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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:37 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Gloriana Americana wrote:Can we all just accept this simple fact: Without the Courier, everybody sucks.


So remember kids: before you try to conquer anything, make sure you have a protagonist with you.


*A fucking mailman

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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.
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Postby United Ameritania » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:40 pm

Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.

OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.

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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:41 pm

United Ameritania wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.

OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.

But the NCR is sad and boring. :c
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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:42 pm

Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.


With the Sierra Madre vending machines you don't even need House. Just repeat the system with the NCR or an independent Vegas and it's still a utopia.

Those machines are OP af.
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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:42 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
United Ameritania wrote:OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.

But the NCR is sad and boring. :c


No, House is sad and boring. NCR is cool.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:43 pm

United Ameritania wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.

OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.


Nope. It's clearly science gone too far. Give it to the Brotherhood.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:44 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
United Ameritania wrote:OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.


Nope. It's clearly science gone too far. Give it to the Brotherhood.


Give it to the Legion to mass produce machetes :p
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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Gloriana Americana wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.


With the Sierra Madre vending machines you don't even need House. Just repeat the system with the NCR or an independent Vegas and it's still a utopia.

Those machines are OP af.

Oh yes, without a doubt.

Also, in the event of an Independent Vegas, what society would y'all construct?

Personally, I'd simply make Vegas a massively profitable place, uplifting the lives of the average Mojave Wastelander. After that, I'd just fuck around with science for the rest of eternity as I establish space colonies.
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Postby United Ameritania » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
United Ameritania wrote:OR OR OR O R O R


you could hand the parts to mister hildern at the OSI, and be a good patriot.


Nope. It's clearly science gone too far. Give it to the Brotherhood.


if it isn't a plasma rifle, it isn't tech.

atleast to them.

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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Nope. It's clearly science gone too far. Give it to the Brotherhood.


Give it to the Legion to mass produce machetes :p


They'd just smash them out of savage stupidity and hatred for anything with lights on it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Prusslandia wrote:Oh yes, without a doubt.

Also, in the event of an Independent Vegas, what society would y'all construct?

Personally, I'd simply make Vegas a massively profitable place, uplifting the lives of the average Mojave Wastelander. After that, I'd just fuck around with science for the rest of eternity as I establish space colonies.


Probably something like the Legion in the idea that it's different from the old world ideas that ruined everything but not, ya know, insane.
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Postby United Ameritania » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Gloriana Americana wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Give it to the Legion to mass produce machetes :p


They'd just smash them out of savage stupidity and hatred for anything with lights on it.


anything more advanced than a brush rifle?

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:57 pm

United Ameritania wrote:
Gloriana Americana wrote:
They'd just smash them out of savage stupidity and hatred for anything with lights on it.


anything more advanced than a brush rifle?

ABSOLUTE DEGENERACY


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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:58 pm

Prusslandia wrote:Also, I just thought about this.

Let's say you've got a House aligned Courier. They notice how the machines in the Sierra Madre are the key to a post-scarcity economy.

The Think Tank designed the vending machines. With the Courier clearly having sway over them in the post-DLC credits, he could have them make the machiens produce nearly anything, just give them the designs of anything you'd like and let them update the machines.

Now, take said machines back to Vegas, all nice and updated. Use whatever refuse you've got laying about to produce, oh I don't know, some securitrons or spacecraft parts. Proceed to laugh as Vegas becomes a Utopian society, ala The Culture.

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Postby Gloriana Americana » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:05 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Gloriana Americana wrote:
With the Sierra Madre vending machines you don't even need House. Just repeat the system with the NCR or an independent Vegas and it's still a utopia.

Those machines are OP af.

Oh yes, without a doubt.

Also, in the event of an Independent Vegas, what society would y'all construct?

Personally, I'd simply make Vegas a massively profitable place, uplifting the lives of the average Mojave Wastelander. After that, I'd just fuck around with science for the rest of eternity as I establish space colonies.


Benevolent Dictatorship. Courier knows best, after all.

More specifically, I'd turn the Mojave into an actual nation. Every worthwhile location would serve some sort of purpose, while I try to maintain good relations with the NCR. Kick out the Khans, destroy the Brotherhood, provide the Enclave Remnants with amnesty, leave all the settlements (Jacobstown, Novac, Primm, Goodsprings) independent but open trade relations with them and provide them with better protection. Bitter Springs would be a memorial, Nipton would be rebuilt, and Searchlight would be a no-go-zone and also a memorial. Maybe build a memorial for the NCR troopers that died during the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. Open trade routes with the Sorrows and Dead Horses tribals, use technology at Big MT to improve Vegas' standing as a power. Leave the Boomers alone, let the Gun Runners continue to operate and allow Happy Trails to operate in the Mojave while kicking out Crimson Caravan. Probably improve the Dam's defenses in case the Legion comes back. Maybe strip some locations of their tech (Black Mountain, the various factories in Vegas, etc.) and use them to improve Vegas proper.

I'd be fair, just, and all that jazz you know, because I'm not an ass.
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Postby Ozzy » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:19 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So hey, I need to ask something.

Is it normal for Deacon to just not say anything to you in the post game? I beat the game as the Minuteman without doing any Railroad Quests and he says nothing when you talk to him.

Well in that case it's probably normal and he's just packing more sodium chloride than an Ontario salt mine.
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