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Mechanix or The Four Horsemen?

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:12 am


this is probably the first time I've preferred the Kill Em All sound to the Ride The Lightning sound.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:14 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:I'm going to try and take my crush to see them. Their first ever metal concert is Cattle Decapitation. MOSH MOTHER FUCKERS MOSH!

You''re a regular Romeo, Naz...

Ew. Bad example.
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Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:14 am

Galborea wrote:

Pantera albums I like: The Great Southern Trendkill
Pantera albums I don't like (but used to a couple years ago): Everything else

What kind of metal are you into? Your tastes seem a lot different than mine.
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:16 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:Pantera albums I like: The Great Southern Trendkill
Pantera albums I don't like (but used to a couple years ago): Everything else

What kind of metal are you into? Your tastes seem a lot different than mine.

This might help. But my personal favorites are black metal and progressive metal. Melodeath comes pretty close.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:17 am


For me it's Cowboys > Reinventing > Far Beyond > Vulgar Display > Great Southern. Far Beyond and Vulgar display are almost tied though. But their first four albums (Glamtera) are better than Cowboys imo :p
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:18 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:What kind of metal are you into? Your tastes seem a lot different than mine.

This might help. But my personal favorites are black metal and progressive metal. Melodeath comes pretty close.

Ah, so you're more into the technical and more experimental shit.

Plus, I don't listen to much black metal. However, I like Venom and Sarcofago.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:18 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:This might help. But my personal favorites are black metal and progressive metal. Melodeath comes pretty close.

Ah, so you're more into the technical and more experimental shit.

Plus, I don't listen to much black metal. However, I like Venom and Sarcofago.

Some Sarcofago is the shit. Venom is just shit.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:20 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Ah, so you're more into the technical and more experimental shit.

Plus, I don't listen to much black metal. However, I like Venom and Sarcofago.

Some Sarcofago is the shit. Venom is just shit.

Favorite Sarcofago album?

Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:22 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:Some Sarcofago is the shit. Venom is just shit.

Favorite Sarcofago album?

Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.

INRI and The Laws of Scourge. And that claim of influence from Venom is a bit...exaggerated, I'd say. Depends on what you mean by "modern metal" though.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:24 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Favorite Sarcofago album?

Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.

INRI and The Laws of Scourge. And that claim of influence from Venom is a bit...exaggerated, I'd say. Depends on what you mean by "modern metal" though.

INRI has some weird songs, but I like the classical punk sound it has on there.

The genres of extreme metal.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:24 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Favorite Sarcofago album?

Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.

INRI and The Laws of Scourge. And that claim of influence from Venom is a bit...exaggerated, I'd say. Depends on what you mean by "modern metal" though.

INRI has some weird songs, but I like the classical punk sound it has on there.

The genres of extreme metal.
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Retiring from NS, guys.

Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:25 am

Jolthig wrote:Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.

You, I like you. Venom is easily one of the best bands out there :p
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Call me Cad or Sisu.
That's what they said:Once you go black metal...

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Sleeping is overrated. ~2012
I'm only gay with females. ~2013
Wings are sexy and you know it! ~2013.

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:26 am

Cadonica wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Venom is still awesome to me. They have a big influence all pretty much most of modern metal.

You, I like you. Venom is easily one of the best bands out there :p

:lol:

I love their recent song, "Long Haired Punks"...really good.
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Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:26 am

Jolthig wrote:The genres of extreme metal.

More specifically black metal, thanks to those crazy Norwegians and Swedes who obsessed over Venom's Welcome to Hell and Black Metal.
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Steam, Last.fm, RYM
Call me Cad or Sisu.
That's what they said:Once you go black metal...

That's what I said:
That Finnish bastard. ~2011
Sleeping is overrated. ~2012
I'm only gay with females. ~2013
Wings are sexy and you know it! ~2013.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:27 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:INRI and The Laws of Scourge. And that claim of influence from Venom is a bit...exaggerated, I'd say. Depends on what you mean by "modern metal" though.

INRI has some weird songs, but I like the classical punk sound it has on there.

The genres of extreme metal.

Discharge has had its influence as well, it could be stated that those raw British punks were more influential when it came to the creation of the classic thrash sound than Venom.

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:27 am

Cadonica wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The genres of extreme metal.

More specifically black metal, thanks to those crazy Norwegians and Swedes who obsessed over Venom's Welcome to Hell and Black Metal.

Exactly.

And Sarcofago also inspired them.
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Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:30 am

I like this Gojira album, The Way of All Flesh
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Retiring from NS, guys.

Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:32 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Jolthig wrote:INRI has some weird songs, but I like the classical punk sound it has on there.

The genres of extreme metal.

Discharge has had its influence as well, it could be stated that those raw British punks were more influential when it came to the creation of the classic thrash sound than Venom.

With the exception of the new album I love Discharge way more than Venom (but it is close because At War With Satan)
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:32 am

Cadonica wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The genres of extreme metal.

More specifically black metal, thanks to those crazy Norwegians and Swedes who obsessed over Venom's Welcome to Hell and Black Metal.

Personally I give Bathory and Hellhammer/Celtic Frost more credit but you can't deny Venom had one of the greatest influences on black metal. It's still good to see more bands getting their due as well.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:36 am

I have yet to explore those other first wave black metal bands.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:37 am

Jolthig wrote:I have yet to explore those other first wave black metal bands.

When it comes to Celtic Frost...old material is fucking legendary but their very last album, 2006's Monotheist, is in a league of its own. The single darkest metal album I've ever heard. Listen only at night, especially if there's a storm coming.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:39 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:I have yet to explore those other first wave black metal bands.

When it comes to Celtic Frost...old material is fucking legendary but their very last album, 2006's Monotheist, is in a league of its own. The single darkest metal album I've ever heard. Listen only at night, especially if there's a storm coming.

Uh oh. Then it's really good.

I will do it when I am done with my progressive metal exploration.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:41 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:When it comes to Celtic Frost...old material is fucking legendary but their very last album, 2006's Monotheist, is in a league of its own. The single darkest metal album I've ever heard. Listen only at night, especially if there's a storm coming.

Uh oh. Then it's really good.

I will do it when I am done with my progressive metal exploration.

How far have you gone there?
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:43 am

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Uh oh. Then it's really good.

I will do it when I am done with my progressive metal exploration.

How far have you gone there?

I've listened to only two albums that Cali showed me so far since I tend to be lazy, but today, I am in the mood of exploring other sounds and I will try to do so more often.
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Retiring from NS, guys.

Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Galborea » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:45 am

Jolthig wrote:
Galborea wrote:How far have you gone there?

I've listened to only two albums that Cali showed me so far since I tend to be lazy, but today, I am in the mood of exploring other sounds and I will try to do so more often.

Two words: Dream Theater.
Ilhan Omar is a hero and braver than all the troops and cops.
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