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Mechanix or The Four Horsemen?

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Postby Bodobol » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:22 pm

Anyone here heard of Dystopia Nå!? They're a Norwegian post-black metal band with influences from all over the place, and their new album is great. Sometimes they take the influence a bit too far (I'm pretty sure they just directly ripped off a Pink Floyd riff in one of their songs), but overall a very good and underrated band.

Here's the opening track from their new album. It's one of those albums where it's best to consume the whole thing at once, but the songs are capable of standing by themselves as well.
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Postby Revanchism » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:31 pm

So I was going through Xytras' remix of Passage and realized several of the songs weren't on Passage so I did some digging and holy shit.
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:26 am

Bodobol wrote:I want to make a list of my favorite solos in black metal. All, like, two of them. :p

Kiaculta wrote:I have now realized that The Great Cold Distance is a perfect album. Used to find it boring, but I guess I never listened to it in the right mindset.


It's not my favorite by them musically (5 or 6 of the songs don't really stand out to me, but overall it's still pretty good in that regard), but lyrically it's probably my favorite Katatonia album. In the White and Journey Through Pressure are highlights. Have you heard their other albums?


I did a discography rating earlier but I wasn't that big on their later stuff at the time. I'm finding myself enjoying it more now, sort of a heavier, doomier Alice in Chains.
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:20 am

Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.
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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:46 am

Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

Uh, no. Behemoth and Cattle Decapitation are fucking awesome.

Delain BTW are okay, imagine something along the lines of Within Temptation and you've got Delain. They're pretty meh, when they were playing with Nightwish and Sabaton they were pretty lackluster. Performance wasn't bad but wasn't too memorable either.

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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:59 am

NeuPolska wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

Uh, no. Behemoth and Cattle Decapitation are fucking awesome.

Behemoth was awesome, not anymore. Cattle has never been awesome.
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Postby Bodobol » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:04 am

Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.


There's a few bands there I certainly would like to see. I read that s Tulsa Open Air and got excited because there was finally a festival worth attending in my state, then I reread it.
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:19 am

Bodobol wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.


There's a few bands there I certainly would like to see. I read that s Tulsa Open Air and got excited because there was finally a festival worth attending in my state, then I reread it.

I think it's pretty fitting for your state though. Tuska is Finnish for pain after all :p
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Postby Revanchism » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:33 am

Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

In what world is Myrkur shit?
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:41 am

Revanchism wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

In what world is Myrkur shit?

In a world that doesn't go "zomg different is instant god-tier". There's literally nothing special in Myrkur musically.
It goes basically like this:

Person 1: *plays Myrkur*
Person 2: "meh"
Person 1: "It's a one-woman-band and the woman is a model and pop musician"
Person 2: "This is awesome!!!"
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Postby Revanchism » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:49 am

Cadonica wrote:
Revanchism wrote:In what world is Myrkur shit?

In a world that doesn't go "zomg different is instant god-tier". There's literally nothing special in Myrkur musically.
It goes basically like this:

Person 1: *plays Myrkur*
Person 2: "meh"
Person 1: "It's a one-woman-band and the woman is a model and pop musician"
Person 2: "This is awesome!!!"

Says the guy who likes Hellyeah.
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:53 am

Revanchism wrote:
Cadonica wrote:In a world that doesn't go "zomg different is instant god-tier". There's literally nothing special in Myrkur musically.
It goes basically like this:

Person 1: *plays Myrkur*
Person 2: "meh"
Person 1: "It's a one-woman-band and the woman is a model and pop musician"
Person 2: "This is awesome!!!"

Says the guy who likes Hellyeah.

Which makes me wonder why did you question my opinion on Myrkur in the first place :p

Though I gotta admit that "nothing special" was rather poor choice of words... more like it has nothing of value to me, given how much I despise avantgarbage/experimental which is ALL about being speshul.
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Postby Revanchism » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:09 am

Cadonica wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Says the guy who likes Hellyeah.

Which makes me wonder why did you question my opinion on Myrkur in the first place :p

Though I gotta admit that "nothing special" was rather poor choice of words... more like it has nothing of value to me, given how much I despise avantgarbage/experimental which is ALL about being speshul.

...Well played.

I do agree with you that it's not exactly remarkable or amazing, but it certainly isn't shit.
Shit is reserved for stuff like Ancient.
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Postby Cosumar » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:15 am

Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

I'd go for the shit bands then :p Katatonia, Cattle Decapitation and Primordial are the ones I'd really get excited about. Would kill to see those three in one night!

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:25 am

Kiaculta wrote:
Bodobol wrote:I want to make a list of my favorite solos in black metal. All, like, two of them. :p



It's not my favorite by them musically (5 or 6 of the songs don't really stand out to me, but overall it's still pretty good in that regard), but lyrically it's probably my favorite Katatonia album. In the White and Journey Through Pressure are highlights. Have you heard their other albums?


I did a discography rating earlier but I wasn't that big on their later stuff at the time. I'm finding myself enjoying it more now, sort of a heavier, doomier Alice in Chains.


Heavier, doomier Alice in Chains huh?

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Postby Cadonica » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:00 pm

Fuck me, I swore I'm not going to order any albums until my next payday, but here we go again. Started delving into my backlog, picked Tempo of the Damned. The first song was virtually perfect thrash metal song, I just HAD to order the album. Yes, just for that one song, I didn't even finish the album before ordering. Currently at third song to be honest.
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Postby Corvus Metallum » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:34 pm

Has anyone heard the new single from The Ocean yet? I'm listening to it several times over to form an opinion on it, but I was wondering if anyone else had anything to say about it. :unsure:
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:59 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:
I did a discography rating earlier but I wasn't that big on their later stuff at the time. I'm finding myself enjoying it more now, sort of a heavier, doomier Alice in Chains.


Heavier, doomier Alice in Chains huh?

A man needs a name. ;)


Stop quoting a show that quite frankly has lost its charm with the latest season. I makes you look like even more of a latecomer wannabe trying to hang out with the big kids.
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Postby Cosumar » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:38 pm

I am at the Blind Guardian concert! Got here 1.5 hours early to get front-row, near center stage 8)

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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 pm

Cosumar wrote:I am at the Blind Guardian concert! Got here 1.5 hours early to get front-row, near center stage 8)

Should start in 20ish minutes. I'm SO fucking ready to sing along with Hansi


Fuck are you lucky. One of those bands I just haven't gotten around to seeing BUT I FUCKING WANT TO.
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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:33 pm

Cosumar wrote:I am at the Blind Guardian concert! Got here 1.5 hours early to get front-row, near center stage 8)

Should start in 20ish minutes. I'm SO fucking ready to sing along with Hansi

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NeuPolska wrote:
Cosumar wrote:I am at the Blind Guardian concert! Got here 1.5 hours early to get front-row, near center stage 8)

Should start in 20ish minutes. I'm SO fucking ready to sing along with Hansi

VALHALLA!


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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:43 pm

Cadonica wrote:Meanwhile Tuska Open Air has revealed few artists.

Ghost, Testament, Behemoth, Katatonia, Lordi, Stam1na, Diablo, Primordial, Tsjuder, Cattle Decapitation, Havok, Myrkur and Delain.

Testament and Tsjuder are worth going to. Lordi and Stam1na are good but I wouldn't go just for them. I've never listened to Havok and I've never heard of Delain. The rest are shit.

Alright, listen to Time is Up by Havok. Imagine Enter the Grave by Evile except faster and better.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:45 pm

Cadonica wrote:Fuck me, I swore I'm not going to order any albums until my next payday, but here we go again. Started delving into my backlog, picked Tempo of the Damned. The first song was virtually perfect thrash metal song, I just HAD to order the album. Yes, just for that one song, I didn't even finish the album before ordering. Currently at third song to be honest.

Exodus confirmed for having only one good song per album.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:46 pm

Revanchism wrote:So I was going through Xytras' remix of Passage and realized several of the songs weren't on Passage so I did some digging and holy shit.

As much as i detest it I'd like to hear more covers of Angel's Decay.
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