Metal Thread 3: Subjectivity isn't Metal

[Kiaculta]

Then what does LaBrie possess that you don't like compared to all of those?

Too poppy sounding and seems kinda out of place. Not a bad singer, but just doesn't fit perfectly with most Dream Theater songs.

He fits as well as Bruce Dickinson fits in Iron Maiden. And at the core of it they aren't THAT different.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Too poppy sounding and seems kinda out of place. Not a bad singer, but just doesn't fit perfectly with most Dream Theater songs.

He fits as well as Bruce Dickinson fits in Black Sabbath. And at the core of it they aren't THAT different.

Fixed. Also, You're wrong: Dream Theater > Maiden.

[Kiaculta]

He fits as well as Bruce Dickinson fits in Black Sabbath. And at the core of it they aren't THAT different.

Fixed. Also, You're wrong: Dream Theater > Maiden.

I see you are still having trouble with the concept of subjectivity.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Fixed. Also, You're wrong: Dream Theater > Maiden.

I see you are still having trouble with the concept of subjectivity.

"Cliched hate. Give me a break."
"Why do you have to be so high-and-mighty? I was just curious that you had to pick the standard argument against Dream Theater that has rather poor backing."
"Do you like ANY high, melodic clean singing?"
"Then what does LaBrie possess that you don't like compared to all of those?"
"He fits as well as Bruce Dickinson fits in Iron Maiden. And at the core of it they aren't THAT different."
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Kiaculta]

I see you are still having trouble with the concept of subjectivity.

"Cliched hate. Give me a break."
"Why do you have to be so high-and-mighty? I was just curious that you had to pick the standard argument against Dream Theater that has rather poor backing."
"Do you like ANY high, melodic clean singing?"
"Then what does LaBrie possess that you don't like compared to all of those?"
"He fits as well as Bruce Dickinson fits in Iron Maiden. And at the core of it they aren't THAT different."
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

"Also, you're wrong: Dream Theater > Maiden."

Fuck it, this argument will go nowhere.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Cosumar have you figured out the "Seek and Destroy" feature on Rock Science yet? If you don't know what that is press the guitar pick while looking for a match. I have no idea what it is.

[Kar-Esseria]

Dream Theater > Maiden.

Lolno.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Dream Theater > Maiden.

Lolno.

Metropolis pt. 2.

[Cadonica]

Lolno.

Metropolis pt. 2.

One of their weakest albums.

[Kiaculta]

Metropolis pt. 2.

One of their weakest albums.

You spelled When Dream and Day Unite wrong.

[Cadonica]

Just ordered the "soundtrack of winter". Which means Melancholie² by ColdWorld and At the Heart of Winter and All Shall Fall by Immortal.

One of their weakest albums.

You spelled When Dream and Day Unite wrong.

I haven't listened to it so I can't say anything about that album.

[Corvus Metallum]

Listening to The Anthropocene Extinction right now. Not a fan of low throaty growls, but I'm sure I'll get over that quickly. Will post more as I continue listening.

What did you think of the rest of it?

Not sure what I think about it yet. The lyrics remind me a bit of Gojira on The Way of All Flesh and the Precambrian-era of the Ocean, but with a lot of "human beings are evil" rhetoric. At parts, the drums sound like they were programmed on a drum machine, and the onslaught of tremolo picking and 32nd notes leaves very little room for the album to breathe. At the same time, it's put together in such a way that it all sounds "right." So....yeah.

[Kiaculta]

Happy birthday to Chris Adler.

[Bodobol]

Just ordered the "soundtrack of winter". Which means Melancholie² by ColdWorld and At the Heart of Winter and All Shall Fall by Immortal.

You spelled When Dream and Day Unite wrong.

I haven't listened to it so I can't say anything about that album.

Melancholie^2 is a great album, but I haven't heard either of those Immortal albums.

I think my soundtrack for winter would probably be something like:
-Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day and The Great Cold Distance by Katatonia
-Songs to Leave and Springtime Depression by Forgotten Tomb
-My Arms, Your Hearse by Opeth
-Filosofem by Burzum

And then some albums that couldn't be considered metal by any stretch.

From what Dream Theater I've heard, Metropolis, Pt. 2 is the only one I can really say I like. They have some other songs elsewhere I like, but no full albums.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Just ordered the "soundtrack of winter". Which means Melancholie² by ColdWorld and At the Heart of Winter and All Shall Fall by Immortal.


I haven't listened to it so I can't say anything about that album.

Melancholie^2 is a great album, but I haven't heard either of those Immortal albums.

I think my soundtrack for winter would probably be something like:
-Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day and The Great Cold Distance by Katatonia
-Songs to Leave and Springtime Depression by Forgotten Tomb
-My Arms, Your Hearse by Opeth
-Filosofem by Burzum

And then some albums that couldn't be considered metql by any stretch.

From what Dream Theater I've heard, Metropolis, Pt. 2 is the only one I can really say I like. They have some other songs elsewhere I like, but no full albums.

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

[Bodobol]

Melancholie^2 is a great album, but I haven't heard either of those Immortal albums.

I think my soundtrack for winter would probably be something like:
-Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day and The Great Cold Distance by Katatonia
-Songs to Leave and Springtime Depression by Forgotten Tomb
-My Arms, Your Hearse by Opeth
-Filosofem by Burzum

And then some albums that couldn't be considered metql by any stretch.

From what Dream Theater I've heard, Metropolis, Pt. 2 is the only one I can really say I like. They have some other songs elsewhere I like, but no full albums.

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

I'll keep that in mind if I ever get around to listening to Immortal.

[Kiaculta]

Melancholie^2 is a great album, but I haven't heard either of those Immortal albums.

I think my soundtrack for winter would probably be something like:
-Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day and The Great Cold Distance by Katatonia
-Songs to Leave and Springtime Depression by Forgotten Tomb
-My Arms, Your Hearse by Opeth
-Filosofem by Burzum

And then some albums that couldn't be considered metql by any stretch.

From what Dream Theater I've heard, Metropolis, Pt. 2 is the only one I can really say I like. They have some other songs elsewhere I like, but no full albums.

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

I actually agree.

[Impaled Nazarene]

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

I actually agree.

It bugs me when people say All Shall Fall is bad. See, there are plenty of things good enough for me.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Metropolis pt. 2.

One of their weakest albums.

Stop bashing things I like.

[Impaled Nazarene]

The new Zombies has an EDM version of Siegman. Time to go kill myself.

[Cosumar]

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

It's Battles In The North for me

What did you think of the rest of it?

The lyrics remind me a bit of Gojira on The Way of All Flesh and the Precambrian-era of the Ocean, but with a lot of "human beings are evil" rhetoric.

Yep, that's pretty much their whole theme! Mankind is the scum of the Earth

We all diiiiiee tonight, and that is perfectly all riiight with meeee

As for the breathing room comment, I think that's what all the atmospheric "clean" vocal sections accomplish. They give us something to latch onto as a contrasting respite between the brutal bits.

Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day and The Great Cold Distance by Katatonia
-My Arms, Your Hearse by Opeth

Always a pleasure to find someone with a mutual appreciation for early Katatonia magic and Opeth's greatest album.

[Impaled Nazarene]

All Shall Fall and At the Heart of Winter are Immortal's best albums.

It's Battles In The North for me

IMO Battles is their second worst. Ahead of only Damned in Black because DiB just sounds too generic by Immortal standards, and seemed like a filler between Winter and Sons.

[Cosumar]

It's Battles In The North for me

IMO Battles is their second worst. Ahead of only Damned in Black because DiB just sounds too generic by Immortal standards, and seemed like a filler between Winter and Sons.

Meh, All Shall Fall and Blizzard Beasts are my two least-favorites. For some reason, Immortal's first three albums just really appeal to me the most.

[Kiaculta]

I have now realized that The Great Cold Distance is a perfect album. Used to find it boring, but I guess I never listened to it in the right mindset.

[Bodobol]

I want to make a list of my favorite solos in black metal. All, like, two of them.

I have now realized that The Great Cold Distance is a perfect album. Used to find it boring, but I guess I never listened to it in the right mindset.

It's not my favorite by them musically (5 or 6 of the songs don't really stand out to me, but overall it's still pretty good in that regard), but lyrically it's probably my favorite Katatonia album. In the White and Journey Through Pressure are highlights. Have you heard their other albums?