Metal Thread 3: Subjectivity isn't Metal

[Kolmya]

So you guys remember that friend of mine who said he thought Agalloch was the most generic band ever? I tried getting him into Alcest today since he's a big shoegaze fan. He said he could hear nothing but "typical Kirk Hammett riffs." I'm convinced he never learned any basic music theory at all.

I don't think it takes knowledge of musical theory to realize that shoegaze doesn't really sound like Metallica.

[Cadonica]

I may hate melodeath but objectively The Jester Race is a good album 4/5 material. For example Hell Awaits is the most boring classic Slayer album and I almost slept through it but it was still good.

You don't have to give an album a decent rating just because it's considered a classic. Let the rating reflect your true listening experience. Though I would hate to see Jester Race rated anything lower than 3.5...

Brb, I'll listen to it.

Jk maybe

[Impaled Nazarene]

You don't have to give an album a decent rating just because it's considered a classic. Let the rating reflect your true listening experience. Though I would hate to see Jester Race rated anything lower than 3.5...

Brb, I'll listen to it.

Jk maybe

have you listened to the new Sodom album yet?

[Cadonica]

Brb, I'll listen to it.

Jk maybe

have you listened to the new Sodom album yet?

No, will do later tomorrow. Right now I'm listening to their self-titled though.

[Galborea]

So you guys remember that friend of mine who said he thought Agalloch was the most generic band ever? I tried getting him into Alcest today since he's a big shoegaze fan. He said he could hear nothing but "typical Kirk Hammett riffs." I'm convinced he never learned any basic music theory at all.

Pretty sure I know more and I never learned music theory.

And that's why he's in a shoegaze band and not progressive rock

[Kolmya]

Off the top of my head the only release I'm looking forward to this year/early next year is Procession's new album.

[Galborea]

Off the top of my head the only release I'm looking forward to this year/early next year is Procession's new album.

I have a whole list on my RYM for anticipated upcoming albums.

[Hurdergaryp]

Pretty sure I know more and I never learned music theory.

And that's why he's in a shoegaze band and not progressive rock

That specific type of music lover is quite generic, actually. They pretend to have a broad taste, but they really do not. Everything that is outside their modestly sized comfort zone tends to become subject to criticism, because they honestly think you can fake insight by being negative about things.

[Galborea]

And that's why he's in a shoegaze band and not progressive rock

That specific type of music lover is quite generic, actually. They pretend to have a broad taste, but they really do not. Everything that is outside their modestly sized comfort zone tends to become subject to criticism, because they honestly think you can fake insight by being negative about things.

In all fairness he came to the conclusion not after listening to an entire song (and let's be honest, Alcest has evolved a fair bit though the new album looks like a mix of their first two), but after listening for FIFTEEN SECONDS.

[Cadonica]

The new Sodom album is great. Tied with Vektor but the only reason why I placed it under Vektor on my top 10 list is because I know Sodom can do better.

[Impaled Nazarene]

The new Sodom album is great. Tied with Vektor but the only reason why I placed it under Vektor on my top 10 list is because I know Sodom can do better.

Did you notice any Melechesh in there? For some reason I could hear production similar to Melechesh and some eastern riffs that would befit a thrashy Melechesh.

[Hurdergaryp]

The new Sodom album is great. Tied with Vektor but the only reason why I placed it under Vektor on my top 10 list is because I know Sodom can do better.

Did you notice any Melechesh in there? For some reason I could hear production similar to Melechesh and some eastern riffs that would befit a thrashy Melechesh.

You accidentally mentioned Absu without actually mentioning Absu.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Did you notice any Melechesh in there? For some reason I could hear production similar to Melechesh and some eastern riffs that would befit a thrashy Melechesh.

You accidentally mentioned Absu without actually mentioning Absu.

Absu is actually Absu which is surprisingly thrashy as fuck.

[Galborea]

The first four songs of the new Sodom are really good but after that it doesn't hold my attention for long. The guitar sound is a bit too brickwalled and dissonant-sounding, makes it a bit hard to make out each riff because I know they're in there. The actual song structures are kind of cool too, more tempo changes and dynamics than I'm used to from Sodom but it's still not that original. Decent album but I wish it was shorter and had more standout tracks and a better production.

[Hurdergaryp]

You accidentally mentioned Absu without actually mentioning Absu.

Absu is actually Absu which is surprisingly thrashy as fuck.

Bands such as Absu are vastly superior when compared to the overwhelming majority of all those retrothrash acts. Great band to see live on stage as well.

[Galborea]

Absu is actually Absu which is surprisingly thrashy as fuck.

Bands such as Absu are vastly superior when compared to the overwhelming majority of all those retrothrash acts. Great band to see live on stage as well.

Absu is pretty good, I must say. And totally agree with you, at least what they're doing is a little bit new compared to "hey let's try to sound exactly like Bonded By Blood!"

[Hurdergaryp]

Bands such as Absu are vastly superior when compared to the overwhelming majority of all those retrothrash acts. Great band to see live on stage as well.

Absu is pretty good, I must say. And totally agree with you, at least what they're doing is a little bit new compared to "hey let's try to sound exactly like Bonded By Blood!"

This is why Toxic Holocaust tends to be so much better than the competition as well, because that band understands that you can actually create something original while also clearly getting your inspiration from brutal thrash, eighties black metal and crust punk.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Absu is pretty good, I must say. And totally agree with you, at least what they're doing is a little bit new compared to "hey let's try to sound exactly like Bonded By Blood!"

This is why Toxic Holocaust tends to be so much better than the competition as well, because that band understands that you can actually create something original while also clearly getting your inspiration from brutal thrash, eighties black metal and crust punk.

I could go for some Toxic Holocaust.

[Cadonica]

The new Sodom album is great. Tied with Vektor but the only reason why I placed it under Vektor on my top 10 list is because I know Sodom can do better.

Did you notice any Melechesh in there? For some reason I could hear production similar to Melechesh and some eastern riffs that would befit a thrashy Melechesh.

Hard to say since I haven't listened to Melechesh. I noticed the riff of Motörhead's In the Black in Rolling Thunder though.

[Revanchism]

So having not been keeping up with recent releases at all, anybody got any good recs?

[Galborea]

So having not been keeping up with recent releases at all, anybody got any good recs?

New Sodom is decent if you're into that. Inquisition and Solution .45 both released albums yesterday. Honestly this past week has been a bit slow at least for me. We got new Devy in a week though so that's cool.

[Cosumar]

new Inquisition

WAIT WHAT???

This was not on my radar at all. WTF. Welp, imma go listen to it then! Pleasant surprise of the week.

[Hurdergaryp]

So having not been keeping up with recent releases at all, anybody got any good recs?

There's been a lot of talk about the most recent album of In Flames, they finally toned those irritating Gothenburg death metal elements down in order to create a more marketable sound.

[Cadonica]

new Inquisition

WAIT WHAT???

This was not on my radar at all. WTF. Welp, imma go listen to it then! Pleasant surprise of the week.

Your upcoming box in RYM explicitly shows it

[Cadonica]

Listened to Defeated Sanity's album Disposal Of The Dead/Dharmata, which consists of two EPs, the more brutal Disposal and the more technical Dharmata. I preferred the brutal part of it. The technical part sounded more like "look we're so technical!!" rather than actually good technical.

Disposal of the Dead: 4.5/5
Dharmata: 2.5/5
Overall: 3.5/5